So make Sasuke his 2nd most powerful and de-power Naruto and Kakashi? Even if T-K is at full power Sasuke is formidable as long as Naruto doesn't have Ashura's blessing.
Sasuke already beat Naruto, Kakashi, & Sakura since Naruto has had sage mode. War arc Kakashi with one sharigan got beat senseless by Sasuke after the Danzo fight. Sakura looked like she got a little upgrade for a split second, but she's the same useless crybaby that will get killed by Sasuke with no difficulty. She can even bring her poison kunai. This battle seems slanted so Team Kakashi loses...
You people serious? Sasuke stomps them into the ground. Mismatch. As for all these people saying SM Naruto is above MS Sasuke, you people are highly wrong. Base Sasuke>>Base Naruto. Sharingan Sasuke<SM Naruto. MS Sasuke>SM Naruto. KCM1 Naruto>MS Sasuke. EMS Sasuke>KCM1 Naruto. KCM2 Naruto>EMS Sasuke. And it's Current Sasuke=Current Naruto. Get your facts straight.
Sasuke already beat Naruto, Kakashi, & Sakura since Naruto has had sage mode. War arc Kakashi with one sharigan got beat senseless by Sasuke after the Danzo fight. Sakura looked like she got a little upgrade for a split second, but she's the same useless crybaby that will get killed by Sasuke with no difficulty. She can even bring her poison kunai. This battle seems slanted so Team Kakashi loses...
He didn't beat any of them really. I wouldn't really say that was much of a fight to be honest.
Didn't Kakashi almost kill Sasuke at one point? If not for the timely save from Naruto? Even without dismemberment, I'd say Kaskashi and Naruto can take the boy, with Sakura healing.
looks to me like team wins. kakashi has kamui and trickery, Naruto has power, sakura has healing and strength, plus 2 boss summons vs 1. and most of all, team seven has teamwork. sasuke can only have teamwork with his ding ding dong. its 3vs1 simultaneously, not one at a time.
Blind, out of chakra, weakened sasuke was keeping up with kakashi, and kakashi couldn't Dodge susanoo arrows, he needed kamui.
raikage could only crack a rib on the lowest form of sasukes susanoo, tsunade could only crack the lowest of madaras. sakura is doing anything to ems sasukes full susanoo.
war arc sm nardo got blitzed by blind madara. sasuke could keep up with blind sm madara, pain arc nardo also runs of senjustu really fast.
it may look like sasuke has the advantage, but a strategy from kakashi, a giant slug, a giant toad, multiple ninja dogs, shadow clones for distraction and kamui sniping, the team should take this.
Blind, out of chakra, weakened sasuke was keeping up with kakashi, and kakashi couldn't Dodge susanoo arrows, he needed kamui.
raikage could only crack a rib on the lowest form of sasukes susanoo, tsunade could only crack the lowest of madaras. sakura is doing anything to ems sasukes full susanoo.
war arc sm nardo got blitzed by blind madara. sasuke could keep up with blind sm madara, pain arc nardo also runs of senjustu really fast.
it may look like sasuke has the advantage, but a strategy from kakashi, a giant slug, a giant toad, multiple ninja dogs, shadow clones for distraction and kamui sniping, the team should take this.
So EMS Sasuke vs the same versions of team 7 he fought after Danzo?
Team imo. Are Naurto and Sakura both not being pathetic this time?
OP said Kakashi can't BFR Sasuke; not that he can't use Kamui defensively.
Sakura had a chance to finish Sasuke so we know he can't follow absolutely every move they make with ease.
If Naruto was fighting to kill he should have solo'd. It will be to their advantage if he actually lets them help.
Yes, I know Sasuke had just fought Danzo but Karin replenished him somewhat. Team 7 also wasn't fighting at their maximum potential. Naruto didn't even go sage mode that fight...
Seriously? We are comparing a guy who was going toe to toe with Juubito to characters who got fodderised by pain?
Sasuke stomps hard.
Naruto nor Sasuke were strong enough to go 'toe-to-toe' with juubito seperately, in fact most of if not all of Sasukes good feats are collabs with Naruto in that fight. They needed teamwork to even attempt to slow him down.
Kakashi is basically a dimension hopper by war arc, Naruto has the combat speed and DC to hurt him, and even Sakura has the strength to harm susanoo but she has no answer to Ama.
Seriously? We are comparing a guy who was going toe to toe with Juubito to characters who got fodderised by pain?
Sasuke stomps hard.
Naruto nor Sasuke were strong enough to go 'toe-to-toe' with juubito seperately, in fact most of if not all of Sasukes good feats are collabs with Naruto in that fight. They needed teamwork to even attempt to slow him down.
Kakashi is basically a dimension hopper by war arc, Naruto has the combat speed and DC to hurt him, and even Sakura has the strength to harm susanoo but she has no answer to Ama.
Who do you think has block a full speed Juubito? Sasuke.
This version of Sasuke have speed and reaction feat to match Juubito, not saying Sasuke can match juubito in every way, he lacks fire power, but he has enough fire power to completely stomp the team here.
Kakashi being dimension hopper? Do you really say that? Seriously? Mind providing scans of how many times Kakashi has dimension hopped without kyuubi chakra?
Sasuke can just knocked out Naruto and Sakura with just a plain genjutsu, or just finish the job with amaterasu spam. Neither of the team has any means to counter amaterasu here.
One or two susanoo arrow will do the trick for Kakashi. Not to mention ridiculous speed ap between the Sasuke and the Team.
Sasuke takes this. He genjutsu's Naruto (since he has no counter for it since he doesn't have Kuramas cooperation at that point). Sakura can go down the same way. Kakashi is easily handled via susanoo arrow.
Who do you think has block a full speed Juubito? Sasuke.
This version of Sasuke have speed and reaction feat to match Juubito, not saying Sasuke can match juubito in every way, he lacks fire power, but he has enough fire power to completely stomp the team here.
Absolutely not, his speed and reactionary are far below Naruto's actually. Sasuke was getting outpaced by a V1 chakra cloaked raikage, Sage mode is already canonically superior to any chakra induced amp in the series by far. (Obviously if you stack sage mode on top of a chakra boost the effect is going to be much better)
Kakashi being dimension hopper? Do you really say that? Seriously? Mind providing scans of how many times Kakashi has dimension hopped without kyuubi chakra?
Go ahead and find that 'firepower to stomp' that Sasuke has
Sasuke can just knocked out Naruto and Sakura with just a plain genjutsu, or just finish the job with amaterasu spam. Neither of the team has any means to counter amaterasu here.
Utterly farfatched and laughable at this point, sasuke doesn't use it in character, his use with it is garbage, Sakura's seal makes her immune to genjutsu, Jiraiya taught Naruto how to break Genjutsu, Ma and Pa can be summoned to further negate Genjutsu and counter with their own. Everyone besides Sakura has the speed feats to simply dodge it.
One or two susanoo arrow will do the trick for Kakashi. Not to mention ridiculous speed ap between the Sasuke and the Team.
You mean the one where Sasuke comes in on the short end of the stick? Kakashi is the fastest here by feats and who says he's going to have time to be on the offensive at all when he's pressured by all three of them? You have kakashi who can keep up with 7th gate vs Sasuke who gets blitzed by Raikage, it simply doesn't equate. Kakashi solos.
Absolutely not, his speed and reactionary are far below Naruto's actually. Sasuke was getting outpaced by a V1 chakra cloaked raikage, Sage mode is already canonically superior to any chakra induced amp in the series by far. (Obviously if you stack sage mode on top of a chakra boost the effect is going to be much better)
Why I feel like I am reading a fanfiction here? :XD
1. Sasuke was evading and attacking V1 Raikage, who survive due to his armor. It was V2 Raikage which was outpacing Sasuke yet still failed to blitz Sasuke. Naruto doesn't have anything on that level of speed.
2. Disscusing MS Sasuke here is pointless as it is EMS Sasuke who was going toe to ote with Juubito who have blitz Minato, which again shits on Raiakge's speed. If you don't remember Naruto has to go BSM to keep up with Juubito while Sasuke was doing that in his EMS.
3. Thats totally fallacious
Do you even remember when blind base Madara blitz the hell out of SM Naruto? And Sasuke was fighting equally with SM Madara.
4. So Kakashi manage to dimension hop only once and he was out of breath, right? Sasuke arrowed him or he got himself BFRed.
Utterly farfatched and laughable at this point, sasuke doesn't use it in character, his use with it is garbage
What is this? Are you saying Sasuke don't use amaterasu in character? Manga says otherwise
Or are you saying Sasuke don't use genjutsu in character? Manga says hi again.
Take any fight
1. Sasuke vs Orochimaru
2. Sasuke vs Itachi
3. Sasuke vs Deidara
4. Sasuke vs Danzo
5 Sasuke vs Killer Bee
6. Sasuke vs Kages
Dude you are embarassing yourself.
Sakura's seal makes her immune to genjutsu,
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?
Jiraiya taught Naruto how to break Genjutsu
And? He has broken what genjutsu with those training???
Ma and Pa can be summoned to further negate Genjutsu and counter with their own
I don't see any Ma or Pa in the OP
Everyone besides Sakura has the speed feats to simply dodge it.
Again, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?
You mean the one where Sasuke comes in on the short end of the stick?
Yes after fightning Danzo to near exhaustion and was about to go blind.
Kakashi is the fastest here by feats and who says he's going to have time to be on the offensive at all when he's pressured by all three of them?
So failing to blitz nearly blind and exhausted Sasuke makes Kakashi above Sasuke in speed? Don't tell you were are not taking weed while you write those.
You have kakashi who can keep up with 7th gate vs Sasuke who gets blitzed by Raikage, it simply doesn't equate. Kakashi solos.
Which manga are you reading??? NOw you are making me really curious.
Yet not one feat that proves without a doubt that EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke. It's not even close to the difference between MS Madara & EMS Madara. MS Sasuke would have lost terribly if the fight after Danzo was a true 3v1 and they were all fighting to kill. He didn't make a big power leap until rinne-sharingan.
Yet not one feat that proves without a doubt that EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke.
>What are you talking about? Sasuke got a new version of susano-o with the ability to throw out dozens of black flame discs/spheres, the ability to form a complete V2 Susano with the lower legs, better use of enton kagatsuchi with his susano-o arrow, and better reaction feats by being able to track juubito's movements, who is much faster than any of his opponents here.
It's not even close to the difference between MS Madara & EMS Madara.
>Who's comparing the two?
MS Sasuke would have lost terribly if the fight after Danzo was a true 3v1 and they were all fighting to kill.
>I'm sure he would have lost considering he was nearly out of chakra after a hard fought battle and nearly blind from overuse of his MS. Fortunately, here he's fresh, with eyes that wont go blind on him. Kakashi can't "teledismember" or kamui snipe him; Naruto and Sakura are most likely fodder to his genjutsu; And no one here has a way to deal with amaterasu. The team goes down hard I'm afraid.
He didn't make a big power leap until rinne-sharingan.
>EMS is more than enough for this bunch. He already fought well enough with kakashi while going blind and nearly out of chakra. With full power, his arsenal is more than enough to deal with these versions of the team. Kakashi will be hard pressed dealing with arrows. How many of those can he kamui away before he's out of stamina?
Team Kakashi Wins. Since when does a sage mode user need to look at their opponent to fight them? Kabuto? Blind Madara? So no genjutsu isn't going to put Naruto down. Plus why depower Naruto and let sasuke use one of his powers hmmmm. Should make this MS sasuke vs Team kakashi like after he fought danzo.
Yet not one feat that proves without a doubt that EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke.
>What are you talking about? Sasuke got a new version of susano-o with the ability to throw out dozens of black flame discs/spheres, the ability to form a complete V2 Susano with the lower legs, better use of enton kagatsuchi with his susano-o arrow, and better reaction feats by being able to track juubito's movements, who is much faster than any of his opponents here.
Sasuke's EMS susanoo is still incomplete. It has legs but that's about the only difference from his MS one. It's definitely an advantage but not a gamechanger.
It's not even close to the difference between MS Madara & EMS Madara.
>Who's comparing the two?
I figured some people were basing their answers on MS vs EMS overall. How else could you arrive at the conclusion that he stomps?
MS Sasuke would have lost terribly if the fight after Danzo was a true 3v1 and they were all fighting to kill.
>I'm sure he would have lost considering he was nearly out of chakra after a hard fought battle and nearly blind from overuse of his MS. Fortunately, here he's fresh, with eyes that wont go blind on him. Kakashi can't "teledismember" or kamui snipe him; Naruto and Sakura are most likely fodder to his genjutsu; And no one here has a way to deal with amaterasu. The team goes down hard I'm afraid.
Karin did replenish Sasuke at the end of the fight, so he didn't exactly go back to back without recovering at all. I never said Kakashi could Kamui Sasuke as that's a restriction from OP, but he could use Kamui defensively. I see no restriction of that. Genjutsu can be broken by teammates. Amaterasu is his best chance, but he didn't use that when he was crazy/bloodlusted trying to kill Naruto so it could be argued that's out of character for him. Most importantly in the fight after Danzo Naruto wasn't in sage mode at all (<<< Pain arc) and Sakura was a non-factor. You can't honestly say she doesn't help when putting her personal feelings aside and fighting to kill.
He didn't make a big power leap until rinne-sharingan.
>EMS is more than enough for this bunch. He already fought well enough with kakashi while going blind and nearly out of chakra. With full power, his arsenal is more than enough to deal with these versions of the team. Kakashi will be hard pressed dealing with arrows. How many of those can he kamui away before he's out of stamina?
Again Sasuke wasn't really almost out of chakra. He definitely wasn't fresh but it's not the same as fighting Danzo and immediately fighting team 7 without recovering. Fair point that Kakashi can only Kamui away so many arrows before running out of chakra, but we've never seen Sasuke spam them (probably because they also require a lot of chakra) and it'd leave an opening for Naruto and/or Sakura to flank his incomplete susanoo.
Sasuke is slightly stronger than the Danzo fight, but nothing that would turn a loss into a stomp.
I'm backing the team here. I don't see Sasuke dealing with a War Arc Kakashi and SM Naruto at the same time. Kakashi distracts him while Naruto pummels him with FRS. Sakura with the seal also helps.
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