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@dawnone said:

also the primal monitor is infinitely fascinating he's connection to dc is still yet to be seen which gives him a mysterious vibe.

Like Wolverine, before Marvel ruined him. Still, not much to go on.

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@dawnone said:
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Well in the diagram we have Lucifer contemplating the meaning of existence essentially. The bit that he says since Yaweh is futile, but also alludes to not knowing who came first. Lucifer has not seen the beginning, and he has not seen the end. So everything he says is only speculative, and derivative based on his knowledge of creationism. And as impressive as Lucifer maybe, he is not Omniscient like Yaweh or The Presence is recorded as being.

hmm well put you deciphered lucifer pretty well or maybe you're just pull this stuff out nvm

It's better than basing it off of 5 issues that not many people consider very well written to begin with.

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Well in the diagram we have Lucifer contemplating the meaning of existence essentially. The bit that he says since Yaweh is futile, but also alludes to not knowing who came first. Lucifer has not seen the beginning, and he has not seen the end. So everything he says is only speculative, and derivative based on his knowledge of creationism. And as impressive as Lucifer maybe, he is not Omniscient like Yaweh or The Presence is recorded as being.

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@dawnone: Nope. I don't buy it, I think your taking it the wrong way.

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@dawnone: We are talking 5 issues (Monitor) vs 56 issues (The Presence).

some info on the over void

he's older than yahweh/presence itself

It also says he is zero, which means he doesn't matter at all. And it doesn't say he is older, it says that 1 & 1 cannot meet, meaning that they are separate from one another.

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@dawnone: We are talking 5 issues (Monitor) vs 56 issues (The Presence).

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@dawnone said:

@naamah_obyzouth: I don't think you understand the dc continuity is a dot to primal monitor.

*Fixed It*

Based on what? What one writer said, and one single run. That is not a lot to go on. DC Universe is greater than Grant Morrison, no matter what he thinks on the matter.

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@naamah_obyzouth said:

@dawnone: The Creator is always greator than the created, always.

tbh I'm partially agreeing with you primal monitor being more powerful than presence is debatable when you put mind to it due to lack of feats but he's description puts him above also primal monitor wasn't created the concept of time is meaningless to him he always existed.

That doesn't make him greater, that just makes him older. Uranus was older than Cronus. Cronus was older than Zeus. Your list says "Top 10 strongest of DC." I am already taking into account that strongest means most powerful, and not literally strongest as in "strength". However... The Presence IS a physically representation of the DC Universe, so it doesn't really get more powerful then that honestly.

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@dawnone: The Creator is always greator than the created, always.

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@dawnone: Also, because I forgot to mention above. Monitor may have endless possibilities, but Monitor cannot create anything on his own. The Presence created the DC Universe. So inside the confines of the actual DC Universe, he is the most powerful force. Monitor is just the reprsentation of the blank page.

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