Let's Discuss Conspiracies

A couple of things right off, I don't want this to be a place where we condemn conspiracies and just pass them off as crazy...there is already a thread for that HERE. Nor do I want this to be a place where we simply promote conspiracies and fervently give into the hype that surrounds most of them...I don't think there is a thread for that.

My goal: Provide a place where we can discuss conspiracies rationally and draw on facts and the multitude of resources on the web to maybe come to conclusions or to just simply educate ourselves. Hey, if we prove or disprove something that's cool too.

Alright, now that I've gotten that out of the way it's time to put on your tinfoil hat, loosen up, and for (insert deity)'s sake have fun.

"Civilization is a conspiracy. Modern life is the silent compact of comfortable folk to keep up pretenses." - John Buchan

Do you believe in god? Cause you're really going to need a miracle for this one. :p

@Dernman: LOL! I know right? I figure the worst that can happen is this thread sinks into oblivion and I get branded a nut, but were all nuts here.

@sesquipedalophobe: I figure everyone on the site is a little bit weird to begin with, might as well hold out a lightning rod for the really weird ones. You know separate the eccentric from the insane.

@Dernman: :P

PAUL MCCARTNEY DIED IN 1967 AND WAS REPLACED BY A DOUBLE.

Does the ancient alien thing count as a conspiracy ?

@Dernman said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER: *rages, creates a 14 paragraph long post belittling you on how wrong I think you are without actually reading what you said then waits for you to respond so I can do it again* :p

14 paragraphs is child's play buddy.

Does HAARP exist?

@NlGHTCRAWLER: EHM! It's 1966 dude! I'm not a Beatles by any means but a friend of mine encouraged me to check this out a while back. OK so ignoring all the "hidden messages" and what not and trying to be at least somewhat scientific my first thought was a DNA test would completely clear this up. Paul McCartney did take a DNA test in sometime in the late 70's/early 80's to establish his relationship with Bettina Wohlers, the daughter of Erika Wohlers, whom McCartney had an affair with in '61/'62. The DNA test proved he was not the father, but what's kinda funny is Bettina Wohlers claims the person who showed up to take the test simply wasn't Paul McCartney. The documents involved in taking the DNA test were signed by a right-handed person and any Beatles fan worth their salt can tell you McCartney is left-handed.

That's really all I've got.

@jack16ichigo: Depends on how you look at it truly but we might as well include it.

@sesquipedalophobe: You don't have to back a conspiracy to be interested or intrigued by it. I can't think of any I back honestly.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Does HAARP exist?

Yes the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program does exist. Here's their webpage.

There's no such thing as the Illuminati.

@Vance Astro: Historically there is, just not in New World Order vibe most people link it with.

@DoomDoomDoom: I've found it very plausible that alien once visited us and our ancestors thought of them as Gods or how they describe them led to future generation to believe they were Gods,I think there's some solid evidence that clearly depict modern astronauts hundreds of years before,there's also feets that ancient man achieve that seem impossible even by today standards and theres even similar cultural aspects across the ancient world with civilization that had no contact to each other.....

I find it more believable than actually Gods existing.....

@Dernman said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER: That was just the opener to start things off to prolong the experience.

Is there a Power Point at some point?

@DoomDoomDoom said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER: EHM! It's 1966 dude! I'm not a Beatles by any means but a friend of mine encouraged me to check this out a while back. OK so ignoring all the "hidden messages" and what not and trying to be at least somewhat scientific my first thought was a DNA test would completely clear this up. Paul McCartney did take a DNA test in sometime in the late 70's/early 80's to establish his relationship with Bettina Wohlers, the daughter of Erika Wohlers, whom McCartney had an affair with in '61/'62. The DNA test proved he was not the father, but what's kinda funny is Bettina Wohlers claims the person who showed up to take the test simply wasn't Paul McCartney. The documents involved in taking the DNA test were signed by a right-handed person and any Beatles fan worth their salt can tell you McCartney is left-handed.

That's really all I've got.

Woah, woah, woah. I meant 1966... I was just testing you Doomy because I wanted to see what you know. :P

There's a sh*t ton more to the story. In 1967 The Beatles hosted a Paul look-a-like contest. Also, they look totally different and have different heights. I'm not complaining or being a dick about it because I think Paul #2 is waaaay more talented than pop bowl cut dead Paul.

I have a video somewhere around here...

@superstay You watch this too buddy. Merry Christmas.

@jack16ichigo said:

@DoomDoomDoom: I've found it very plausible that alien once visited us and our ancestors thought of them as Gods or how they describe them led to future generation to believe they were Gods,I think there's some solid evidence that clearly depict modern astronauts hundreds of years before,there's also feets that ancient man achieve that seem impossible even by today standards and theres even similar cultural aspects across the ancient world with civilization that had no contact to each other.....

I find it more believable than actually Gods existing.....

Did you know many people believe that aliens are actually from a different dimension (realities) and not from outer space? NASA hired these two famous European scientists in the 70's to study UFO's and they determined that they were from an alternate reality and that the UFO's were the aliens themselves. According to them, they can take on the shape of whatever it is they want and can even disappear and bend space and time. They also came into agreement that the aliens were hostel because they were trying to pretend to be something that they are not. Many current Native American cultures believe in something really, really similar. I need to look for the link.. It's pretty interesting. I'm not sure what I believe, but either way imma need to see some real proof before I put my faith in anything like that.

@Dernman said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER: Yes and it even has "expert" speakers.with "valid evidence" the man himself all while I recruit other users to gang up on you.

Well damnnn.... Is there a reason for all of this madness or what?

lol Seriously though, is this about the underage thread?

Because if it is, me and you need to have a long talk about forgiveness.

@NlGHTCRAWLER: Inter-dimension aliens ? thats a new spin on thing its as plausible as outer-space,as for the UFO being the aliens themselves I once saw a thing that said an alien that lived in a gas giant (like Jupiter) would resemble a giant jelly fish which would look similar to the typical UFO.I may have do some research into this :)

Maria Magdalena was probably the wife of Jesus. That's the only one I believe.

@NlGHTCRAWLER: Didn't know about the look-a-like contest. The Paul McCartney double is referred to as Faul sometimes though.

@jack16ichigo said:

.I may have do some research into this :)

Please do if your into it, and let us know what you find!

@NlGHTCRAWLER:

You trying to hurt me with all this phony baloney bull huh? d?_?b

@Vance Astro: Historically there is, just not in New World Order vibe most people link it with.

@DoomDoomDoom said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER: Didn't know about the look-a-like contest. The Paul McCartney double is referred to as Faul sometimes though.

@jack16ichigo said:

.I may have do some research into this :)

Please do if your into it, and let us know what you find!

I will if I find anything interesting :D

@jack16ichigo: As do I. If I find that link I will PM it to you... It could have been a video too. Gotta check my hard drive tomorrow.

@DoomDoomDoom: YES. Supposedly Harrison was almost murdered and Lennon WAS murdered because they wanted the secret out. That part might be "too" far, but anything is possible if this Faul thing is real.

@superstay said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER:

You trying to hurt me with all this phony baloney bull huh? d?_?b

It's real Superstay! Accept it and you might even learn to like it.

@NlGHTCRAWLER: thanks that'd be great :D also if Paul was replaced what advantages would there be to replacing ? just curious to why they would do it....

@Vance Astro: Yeah it's not something I'm buying either, but I will dig up some more information on it.

Nice to see a mod in the thread by the way!

Governments have far more control over us than we realise 

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Governments have far more control over us than we realise

Understatement of the century. Any aspect your thinking of in particular though?

Well damnnn.... Is there a reason for all of this madness or what?

lol Seriously though, is this about the underage thread?

Because if it is, me and you need to have a long talk about forgiveness.

@DoomDoomDoom said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Governments have far more control over us than we realise

Understatement of the century. Any aspect your thinking of in particular though?

You know I've never understood what people mean by this.....

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Governments have far more control over us than we realise

Understatement of the century. Any aspect your thinking of in particular though?

@jack16ichigo: Basically, everything around you is government regulated. Don't get me wrong though the majority of it is beneficial.

@Jonny_Anonymous: Wow...that is quite an amazing site. Good find!

@DoomDoomDoom: Well the government does control what comes in and what go's out.....

@NlGHTCRAWLER: naw dude its fake IMO, it's the same paul.

It's fact that John hated people searching for things in their lyrics, pictures, interviews, so it's not unlikely he said "Hey lads they [the public] wants to play Sherlock Holmes, why don't we give them something juicy to look for" the other four liking the Idea jumps on the bandwagon. Now we're chasing some fack conspiracy while the Beatles lol at us in John's House over a cup of tea and some Fish & Chips [Figuratively]. dO.Ob

@DoomDoomDoom said:

@jack16ichigo: Basically, everything around you is government regulated. Don't get me wrong though the majority of it is beneficial.

@Jonny_Anonymous: Wow...that is quite an amazing site. Good find!

Thank Jonathan Hickman, he brought it to my attention lol

@Jonny_Anonymous: Nice!

Ringo Starr was an Evolved Ape...

A friend of mine was freaking out over the illuminati theory that London would explode last Saturday.

When I rubbed it in his face, he denied ever saying it.

Lulz.

The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister!!!

@Ms. Omega said:

The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister!!!

Iv'e seen this before you thief. :P

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

@Ms. Omega said:

The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister!!!

Iv'e seen this before you thief. :P

LOL most awesome Justice League quote ever!

I've found it very plausible that alien once visited us and our ancestors thought of them as Gods or how they describe them led to future generation to believe they were Gods,I think there's some solid evidence that clearly depict modern astronauts hundreds of years before,there's also feets that ancient man achieve that seem impossible even by today standards and theres even similar cultural aspects across the ancient world with civilization that had no contact to each other.....

I find it more believable than actually Gods existing.....

Aliens.

@SC: I don't know who Erich von Däniken but we all presume things based on what we know of the world so a dodgy conclusion could be as incorrect as the mainstream presumption based what they think the world is like as for the trees thing early man made presumption suck as and where considered correct for possible long periods until proven wrong.As for man having common idea's around the world I think that can only go up to a point when it considered a coincidence.

My point is we only know the world we live in and so many things have been dis proven before it could happen again :)

There are reptilian humanoids living in underground cities under L.A.

Beware...

@SC: I don't know who Erich von Däniken but we all presume things based on what we know of the world so a dodgy conclusion could be as incorrect as the mainstream presumption based what they think the world is like as for the trees thing early man made presumption suck as and where considered correct for possible long periods until proven wrong.As for man having common idea's around the world I think that can only go up to a point when it considered a coincidence.

My point is we only know the world we live in and so many things have been dis proven before it could happen again :)

@SC: He may have been a fraud but I still feel there's enough evidence that it's worth the benefit of the doubt and I still feel its more plausible than actual Gods and most ignore it because its outrageous to think so like so many things once where but you raise some very valid points :) problem is we'll probably never truly understand what happened.

Geez need a bloody English degree to keep up with you guys on here ;)