Have you accepted Jesus as your God and savior?

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God bless you to the OP as a Christian myself. Even if you may not agree with other religions, it is called agree to disagree?!

Idk the bigger issues is when people try to push their religion on others. Example being like the OP pushing his religion on anyone that says they are another religion

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Sikhism

Kalki shall return on horseback with sword and sounding his trumpet before fighting the wicked. The Lord Himself will manifest as the Supreme Purusha. He will be called the Kalki incarnation and will be glorious like a lion coming down from heaven. 945

Hinduism

At the end of the age when even among civilized gentlemen and so-called saints there is no mention of the Lord, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the evil men, when the twice-born [the higher classes] and the government consisting of members of the laborer class itself never under any circumstances take to His hymns, paraphernalia, altars and words, then, at the end of the Age of Dissent, the Supreme Lord [Kalki], the chastiser will appear. 947

The spiritual master of all the moving and nonmoving beings, Lord Vishnu, the Controller of All, will for the protection of the religion and the saintly put an end to the fruitive activities and the [repeatedly] being born. In the village of S’ambhala Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the great soul, the brahmin Vishnuyas’â [‘the glory of Vishnu’]. Mounting His swift horse Devadatta, the Lord of the Universe endowed with His sword, transcendental qualities and the eight mystic opulences [siddhis], will subdue the ones who turned away from the holy. On His horse moving with speed about the earth He, unrivaled in His splendor, will slaughter the thieves disguised in the garb of kings. When all the robbers have been killed, the minds of all the citizens and the people living in the countryside will clear up being touched by the breeze which carries the most sacred fragrance of the [with sandalwood paste] decorated body of Lord Vâsudeva. When Vâsudeva, the Supreme Lord, is situated in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the culture of their progeny will flourish as never before. When the Supreme Lord Kalki, the Lord and Master of Dharma, incarnates, Satya-yuga and the creation of progeny in the mode of goodness will begin. 948

Judaism/Christianity

We could not accomplish deliverance for the earth,

Nor were inhabitants of the world born.

Your dead will live;

Their corpses will rise.

You who lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy,

For your dew is as the dew of the dawn,

And the earth will give birth to the departed spirits.

Come, my people, enter into your rooms

And close your doors behind you;

Hide for a little while

Until indignation runs its course.

For behold, the Lord is about to come out from His place

To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;

And the earth will reveal her bloodshed

And will no longer cover her slain.

In that day the Lord will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,

With His fierce and great and mighty sword, 951

Christianity

For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Behold, I have told you in advance. So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.952

And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” 953

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, then comes the end. 954

Apocrypha

His disciples said to him, “When will you be revealed and become visible to us, and when shall we behold you?” Jesus said, “When you disrobe, stripping naked without being ashamed and take your garments and put them under your feet like little children and tread upon them. Then you will see the child of the Living, the Son of the Living One, and you will not be afraid.”955

951 Isaiah 26:18-21

952 Matthew 24:24-31

953 Revelation 19:11-16

954 1 Corinthians 15:20-24

955 Gospel of Thomas v37

945 Gobind Singh. The Sri Dasam Granth

947 Bhagavata Purana, 2.7.38

948 Bhagavata Purana, 12.2.17-24

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>Jesus

>God

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Three gods. One true faith.

Blessed be the holy names of ALMSIVI and blessed be their Anticipations. Blessed be the Saints, who I beseech to watch over this child of ash and blood.

AYEM AE SEHTI AE VEHK

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@championjoe: Now is the time, brother!! What can I do to convince you?

Nothing. God does not exist until I get solid proof of it. Try your best I won't budge.

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I think if God does really exist he wouldn't care that much about whether people believe in his existence or not, or at least not to the point of sending us to eternal torment.

And nobody deserves eternal torment. That's not so merciful.

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@hulk_like_fire: You're Buddhist?

hindus and buddhists have many things in common

Nope, pretty much nothing. Hindus and Buddhists may be monotheists if we think broadly, but there is nothing else that proves both are similar. Buddhism isn't even a religion, it is to learn how to escape to cycle of life, death and reincarnation. Hinduism wants you to reincarnate, and that is determined by your Dharma(Dharmam). If you do good in life, you will be reborn as a higher caste, you do bad stuff, you'll be reborn as a lower caste.

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ok who is kalki?

Kalki is the 10th avatar of Vishnu. He will set foot on Earth at the end of the Kali Yuga. The Kali Yuga is an endless cycle which repeats itself every millions of years. It is the last era of four in the endless cycle of Sanatan Dharma. He will show up on a horse when evil is flowing through Earth and stop it. That is what all of the avatars of Vishnu do, they step down to earth and stop all the evil, just like Narasimha, Rama and Krishna.

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@baldur_odinson said:

@hulk_like_fire: You're Buddhist?

hindus and buddhists have many things in common

Nope, pretty much nothing. Hindus and Buddhists may be monotheists if we think broadly, but there is nothing else that proves both are similar. Buddhism isn't even a religion, it is to learn how to escape to cycle of life, death and reincarnation. Hinduism wants you to reincarnate, and that is determined by your Dharma(Dharmam). If you do good in life, you will be reborn as a higher caste, you do bad stuff, you'll be reborn as a lower caste.

Well the difference you noted is true but your wrong about Buddhists and Hindus having nothing in common. Buddhists and Hindus both believe in wheel of life.

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Hindus become Buddhists to escape the caste system

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@hulk_like_fire said:
@darkthunder said:
@baldur_odinson said:

@hulk_like_fire: You're Buddhist?

hindus and buddhists have many things in common

Nope, pretty much nothing. Hindus and Buddhists may be monotheists if we think broadly, but there is nothing else that proves both are similar. Buddhism isn't even a religion, it is to learn how to escape to cycle of life, death and reincarnation. Hinduism wants you to reincarnate, and that is determined by your Dharma(Dharmam). If you do good in life, you will be reborn as a higher caste, you do bad stuff, you'll be reborn as a lower caste.

Well the difference you noted is true but your wrong about Buddhists and Hindus having nothing in common. Buddhists and Hindus both believe in wheel of life.

They both do believe in it. Buddhists try to escape it while the other wants to go with it. Besides that and being Monotheistic, they are not similar in any way.

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Many yogis seek The bliss that resides outside of samsara

That is true. Yoga is supposed to help you get free from the cycle of rebirth. That is why Shiva does meditation and Yoga in the Himalayas. Gautama(the Buddha) believed that the Hindus were doing it all wrong by going too extreme and not eating food. He wanted everyone to escape the circle of rebirth by meditating and maintaining a balanced life, unlike Hindus. As Hindus, we believe the Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu. @spareheadone Do you believe he is an avatar of Vishnu.

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Yes Gautama and Jesus

True, but I believe he is the son of Vishnu. Krishna himself stated he was God and Jesus, I think, stated he was the Son of God.

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@hulk_like_fire:

Yes it is extremely important to refer to them in Father Son terms.

Purusha is now known as The Son but he was The Father who gave his life before the foundation of the earth

Vishnu is now known as The Father but he is actually the son of The Purusha.

Krishna is The Seed of Vishnu who will combine with this universe to resurrect The Purusha

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@hulk_like_fire:

Yes it is extremely important to refer to them in Father Son terms.

Purusha is now known as The Son but he was The Father who gave his life before the foundation of the earth

Vishnu is now known as The Father but he is actually the son of The Purusha.

Krishna is The Seed of Vishnu who will combine with this universe to resurrect The Purusha

agreed

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@hulk_like_fire:

In Christianity The Purusha is known as The Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the earth and this refers to Jesus in his Purusha state or Christ state.

Jesus the man is The Seed of The Father who will combine with the universe to resurrect The Christ

The Father is actually the son of The Christ

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I'm a practicing Christian, so yes.

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Firstly I want to tell you guys that God loves you, each one of you, and wants you to have eternal life with Him in Heaven. But this is the important message, the judgment day is coming, Jesus is coming soon for the second time. There is not much time left, He can come at any time, maybe next week, or tomorrow, or even 2 hours from now, and you could die at any time as well before you come to repentance. You have to come to God, accept Jesus as your savior, and REPENT. If you still live in sin and don't believe in Jesus, you will be cast into the lake of fire, HELL, and you will receive ETERNAL torment with no relief. You can't stand for a day, even for 5 minutes there, let alone FOREVER. For Jesus said in John 14:6: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me”.

You can't save yourself from eternal death, only God can. And the good news is He has saved us. All you have to do to receive it is just believe that Jesus has saved you and trust God with all of your heart, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9). It is not hard, isn't it? But, you have to show and exhibit your faith by repenting and following God's word. Don't worry yet, God will help you to overcome your sin. He will give you power and the Holy Spirit will live inside you to guide you. And you have to maintain the salvation He has given by living by His word and fight until the end. Reading Bible daily, going to church regularly, praying day and night, and socializing more with Christian friends will help keeping your faith strong.

For you who haven't believed in God, or accepted Jesus as your savior, or have stayed far from God, please, come to Him and repent. God loves you so much, and He can't wait to have a relationship with you. I'm telling you, it is not by chance if you are reading this, God really tries very hard to reach you, but it is your choice whether to receive His salvation or eternal torment. No matter how great your sin was, God will still forgive you, "If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:8-9). My life has been far better with God, and you will too for God is real and good. Hallelujah!!

God bless you.

This is the typical free-will gospel that you hear. And it's totally contrary to the Bible. Coming to God, accepting Christ, repenting, and other actions are all works, but a person is not saved by works (Ephesians 2:8-9).

You write that only God can save a person from eternal death, but then you say what a person needs to do to save themselves from that eternal death! That's a contradiction. Either salvation is 100% based on the mercy of God or it's not. Either it's based on grace or works. And if a person can become saved by accepting Christ or repenting, etc., then it's no longer grace.

Again, if it's a person's choice whether they receive God's salvation or not, then salvation is no longer grace. It's works. The person could choose for Christ. But the Bible teaches that we're dead in sins before salvation and totally unable to come to God in a pleasing way (Ephesians 2:1, Romans 8:8, Romans 3:10-18).

The Bible gives the true account. God elected certain ones to salvation, and only these will become saved. No man can come to Christ except the Father draws him (Ephesians 1, John 6:37, 44). And so on. What you've written here is a very popular idea, but it's not true.

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@baldur_odinson: Believing in God is not about receiving blessing or anything else, it's about salvation. If you don't believe in Jesus as your God and savior and don't follow His words, then it means you don't want or you reject the salvation He has given. And who says that God doesn't bless non-Christians? All people receive the blessings from God. God pours out His blessings to the non-believers as well as a way to bring them to Him, to repent. Some people are grateful; they respond to God's blessings. Some believe that those blessings are from themselves, that their own hard work and strength that make those happen. And some just aren't grateful. But, of course, those who believe in him will receive special blessings from God and the best blessing one can ever get, that is eternal life.

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The wording to the OP is kind of interesting. I thought Jehovah is GOD and Jesus was GOD's Offspring not literally Jehovah himself.

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@johnnyz256: No, I agree with you, good works are not going to save us, and that his salvation is purely His grace. But accepting Jesus as God and savior is a must. Let me give you some verses from the Bible. "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6). "Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life" (1 John 5:10-12). "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). "Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life" (John 6:47).

These verses emphasize on the word "believe", which is an action done by human. And why does John use the word "one who believes" and "whoever believes"? Why doesn't he use "one or whoever chosen by God" or "the only one who are saved" or something like that? "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time" (1 Timothy 2:6). "But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone" (Hebrews 2:9). Note the word "all" and "everyone", so clearly God's grace is for everyone, not only those who are chosen by him. "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself" (John 12:32). Here, it says God draws all people. I believe that God is the one that firstly has the initiative to reach us, not only certain people, but all. Human can't save themselves nor find their own way to get the salvation, only God that can and which has to reach them. Sure, God is not bounded by time; He knows which one will respond His calling, which one will be saved eventually. But God doesn't treat us as robots, or puppets, who can't make their own choices. And God is also the perfect judge; He is fair and just. Let me ask you this. If God didn't reach certain people because He knew how they would respond, and they lived their lives without ever knowing if there was God, but then He still tossed them to hell, does that sound fair?

The "works" here is not talking about reaching God or repenting (then again, you think we are like puppets who can't have our own free choices and will). The "works" here means doing good and noble works. That verse means that no matter how noble and great things we do, for example, giving money to charity, following rules, being good to everyone, even sacrificing one life to save others, will not buy our way to salvation.

Either way, if you still think that no one can have a choice, but only God that has chosen those that will be saved, the word of God still have to be told and spread to all over the world. How can "the chosen people," that you believed in, can be saved if they don't receive the word of God? I don't want to argue which one of our beliefs is the right one; it would be an endless argument, quoting verses that will fit and support our beliefs and making reasons with those verses. You and I, as Christians, have an obligation to spread the word of God. "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age" (Matthew 28:19-20).

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God bless you, brother. Keep your faith strong and spread the good news! Be His witness and share your testimony.

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@baldur_odinson: Well, I'm not forcing you to believe in Him, and God certainly too. But I hope one day your eyes will be opened and find the truth. God bless you

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@johnnyz256: No, I agree with you, good works are not going to save us, and that his salvation is purely His grace. But accepting Jesus as God and savior is a must. Let me give you some verses from the Bible. "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6). "Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life" (1 John 5:10-12). "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). "Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life" (John 6:47).

These verses emphasize on the word "believe", which is an action done by human. And why does John use the word "one who believes" and "whoever believes"? Why doesn't he use "one or whoever chosen by God" or "the only one who are saved" or something like that? "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time" (1 Timothy 2:6). "But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone" (Hebrews 2:9). Note the word "all" and "everyone", so clearly God's grace is for everyone, not only those who are chosen by him. "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself" (John 12:32). Here, it says God draws all people. I believe that God is the one that firstly has the initiative to reach us, not only certain people, but all. Human can't save themselves nor find their own way to get the salvation, only God that can and which has to reach them. Sure, God is not bounded by time; He knows which one will respond His calling, which one will be saved eventually. But God doesn't treat us as robots, or puppets, who can't make their own choices. And God is also the perfect judge; He is fair and just. Let me ask you this. If God didn't reach certain people because He knew how they would respond, and they lived their lives without ever knowing if there was God, but then He still tossed them to hell, does that sound fair?

The "works" here is not talking about reaching God or repenting (then again, you think we are like puppets who can't have our own free choices and will). The "works" here means doing good and noble works. That verse means that no matter how noble and great things we do, for example, giving money to charity, following rules, being good to everyone, even sacrificing one life to save others, will not buy our way to salvation.

Either way, if you still think that no one can have a choice, but only God that has chosen those that will be saved, the word of God still have to be told and spread to all over the world. How can "the chosen people," that you believed in, can be saved if they don't receive the word of God? I don't want to argue which one of our beliefs is the right one; it would be an endless argument, quoting verses that will fit and support our beliefs and making reasons with those verses. You and I, as Christians, have an obligation to spread the word of God. "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age" (Matthew 28:19-20).

Grace is the undeserved gift of God. That's not what you're saying when you write that "accepting Christ is a must." Nothing is a "must." That's the point. If something were a must, then we'd be saved by works, not grace.

A person can quote a great many verses. John 3:16, Romans 10:9, Romans 10:13, Acts 16:31, etc., all seem to indicate that a person can become saved by believing or taking some other action. The problem is that humans by nature are dead in sins (Ephesians 2:1). You're saying that God will honor the faith or repentance of a dead person, but that's unbiblical.

So, does Christ draw the militant atheist? What about the Hindus? "All" is defined by the context. It doesn't necessarily mean "every last person." Luke 2:1 says that all of the world should be taxed (enrolled). Does this mean that Caesar had each Chinese person enrolled? Each Native American Indian? Of course not. It means that all of the known world was to be enrolled. This all is conditional.

Who is the "all" in view? Look at John 6:37: All that the Father giveth Me shall come to Me, and him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.

So, it's not that God elected every last person to salvation. God elected a certain amount (a minority), and these are the ones that will come to Christ. But they only come to Christ because God chose them to salvation.

That's what grace is. Salvation that is based 100% on the mercy of God.

If God didn't reach certain people because He knew how they would respond, and they lived their lives without ever knowing if there was God, but then He still tossed them to hell, does that sound fair?

By nature, nobody will respond in a pleasing way to the Gospel. Read Romans 3:10-18. This is God's assessment of the unsaved. Everyone, with zero exception, deserves eternal damnation. If God in His sovereign good pleasure doesn't want to provide the Gospel to a certain person, that's His prerogative.

Intuitively, Bible or no Bible, everyone knows that God exists. It's written on the hearts of man (Romans 1). But simple knowledge or any other work cannot get a person right with God. We're saved by God's mercy, and nothing else.

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@baldur_odinson: Well, I'm not forcing you to believe in Him, and God certainly too. But I hope one day your eyes will be opened and find the truth. God bless you

Do you want me to convert to Christianity?

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@king_saturn:"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth" (John 1:14).

Here it says that the "Word was God" (Word = God) and then, the Word became flesh (Jesus). So, let me make it more clear, Jesus (the flesh) has the Word inside Him. He also has all the characteristics of God. So, Jesus is basically God Himself.

And whether you want to believe this or not, but there are miracles and rebuking and casting out of demons by saying "in the name of Jesus". No other name than God's name has the power to do those things. You can't say "in the name of Bill", and then something happens. But, of course, one needs faith; not only by saying the word.

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@rawsos: God bless you, brother. Keep your faith strong and spread the gospel!

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@king_saturn:"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth" (John 1:14).

Here it says that the "Word was God" (Word = God) and then, the Word became flesh (Jesus). So, let me make it more clear, Jesus (the flesh) has the Word inside Him. He also has all the characteristics of God. So, Jesus is basically God Himself.

And whether you want to believe this or not, but there are miracles and rebuking and casting out of demons by saying "in the name of Jesus". No other name than God's name has the power to do those things. You can't say "in the name of Bill", and then something happens. But, of course, one needs faith; not only by saying the word.

The statement in John 1:1 is actually a contradiction. How can The Word be with GOD and be GOD at the same time ? Either the Word is GOD or is not GOD to be with GOD does not mean you are GOD you are simply with GOD.

Also, explain John 14:28 when Jesus himself says Jehovah is greater than he is. On top of that, Jesus is not equal to Jehovah, Jesus is in a Body, Jehovah is Omnipresent. Jesus could actually die or be killed, Jehovah can not die. Jesus has a physical beginning on the Earth outside of his Celestial Form as a Spiritual Being, Jehovah does not. They are not the same therefore, Jesus is not GOD since he is not Jehovah.

In 1 Kings 17, Elijah the Prophet was able to raise a boy back to life by praying to the GOD of Israel. Elijah did not know of a Jesus. He simply prayed to GOD ( Jehovah ) and the boy was raised back to life. GOD apparently could have people healed by another name other than Jesus.

Also, Jesus is actually a name that would not have existed at the time he supposedly walked the Earth. They probably would have called him Yeshua or something else. The letter J is not that old. They could not have called him that.

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@hulk_like_fire: Yes, I'd love that

Why should I? What makes Christianity the ultimate true religion and not others? If you explain thoroughly, then I will decide. You must not only prove Christianity true, but also other religions "false". Are you up to it? Because if you do, you will be getting a lot of hate.

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@johnnyz256: Yeah, I agree with you that salvation is 100% God's grace although we have a difference in interpreting that. Before I come up with an argument, let me ask you something, do you think we, Christians, need to spread the gospel? Do you think we, Christians, should just sit down, pray, read the Bible and worship Jesus in close doors, and let those not-yet-Christians wandering around the earth without hearing the truth, and we should just sit down, watching through the windows, waiting until supernatural work from God to come calling them to Him? Do you think there is no point in spreading the good news? I'm not saying that God can't do such things; I have known some people who came to God because God had revealed Himself through dreams and even in physical world to them. I'd love to hear your answers.

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@hulk_like_fire: I agree with you. Who knows what is the right religion. But I said Hail Satan and you can worship who you want. That's how it should be.

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@baldur_odinson: Well, I'm not forcing you to believe in Him, and God certainly too. But I hope one day your eyes will be opened and find the truth. God bless you

My eyes are already wide open to the truth, and I will never indoctrinate myself into a cult.

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@seagod said:

@baldur_odinson: you have time to talk about our lord and savior Satan?

My lord and savior is Odin, friend.

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@seagod said:

@baldur_odinson: I respect that. Praise Odin and Hail Satan.

Hail Odin, the All-Father! May he bless Satan and his followers!

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@baldur_odinson: if only more people can be that chill about religion. Just let people believe in what they want to believe.

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@hulk_like_fire: I have been a Hindu since birth. My whole family is made up of very religious hindus. I really loved everything you said.

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@seagod: The idea of religious pluralism is truely amazing...we should be respectful of everyones beliefs or lack there of (so long as they don't violate our human rights).