Could batman with prep actually beat the silver surfer?

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Poll Could batman with prep actually beat the silver surfer? (109 votes)

Yes 35%
No 65%

had a debate with a friend offline and he claimed that if batman with prep can beat superman, then he too can beat silver surfer

do you guys also think the same way? please share

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If Silver Surfer were a DC character, I have a feeling there would be a story of Batman beating him with prep.

As it stands though, I do not think Batman could beat Silver Surfer based off of what he prepped with before.

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I think Batman has beaten Superman purely because he has a large shiny green rock as a weakness. There's nothing quite so obvious about Silver Surfer so unless Batman's prep is getting out his phone book to call for help I'm not sure he can ever take him on.

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#3  Edited By brucerogers

Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

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#4  Edited By DarthAznable

Surfer got put in an arm lock by Black Panther. All Batman needs is one Batkick.

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Surfer got put in an arm lock by Black Panther. All Batman needs is ine Batkick.

I change my mind. I mean, he did make the Spectre bleed.

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anyone can beat anyone under the right circumstances

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No and the fact this thread was made is ridiculous.

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Lol no

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No and the fact this thread was made is ridiculous.

Mother of god. THIS!!

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Of course he could. Norrin is an idiot half the time.

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yes

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Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

New 52 Batman Issue 36 and Batman Issue 612 off the top of my head. Endgame and Hush storylines.

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Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

New 52 Batman Issue 36 and Batman Issue 612 off the top of my head. Endgame and Hush storylines.

Batman never beat Superman in hush. It was made clear that Supes was desperately fighting off his mind control and Batman admitted that he could kill him without breaking a sweat. All he did was barely survive.

By endgame, are you talking about the time when he took on the league with his justice buster suit?. Superman was mind controlled, slower and would have won the fight if he hadn't wasted time gloating. Not really a victory, if you ask me

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@laughingbatman said:

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@brucerogers said:

Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

New 52 Batman Issue 36 and Batman Issue 612 off the top of my head. Endgame and Hush storylines.

Batman never beat Superman in hush. It was made clear that Supes was desperately fighting off his mind control and Batman admitted that he could kill him without breaking a sweat. All he did was barely survive.

By endgame, are you talking about the time when he took on the league with his justice buster suit?. Superman was mind controlled, slower and would have won the fight if he hadn't wasted time gloating. Not really a victory, if you ask me

But if Batman lost, then Superman won, right? Because under that theory, if Superman won while being slower, mind controlled, etc, and Batman lost, then it would go to show that Batman is far inferior to Superman. No, Batman won regardless of circumstances. You could make the argument he even beat him in Tower of Babel via his own drawn up plans used by Ra's Al Ghul instead.

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He doesn't need prep.

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@brucerogers said:
@laughingbatman said:

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@brucerogers said:

Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

New 52 Batman Issue 36 and Batman Issue 612 off the top of my head. Endgame and Hush storylines.

Batman never beat Superman in hush. It was made clear that Supes was desperately fighting off his mind control and Batman admitted that he could kill him without breaking a sweat. All he did was barely survive.

By endgame, are you talking about the time when he took on the league with his justice buster suit?. Superman was mind controlled, slower and would have won the fight if he hadn't wasted time gloating. Not really a victory, if you ask me

But if Batman lost, then Superman won, right? Because under that theory, if Superman won while being slower, mind controlled, etc, and Batman lost, then it would go to show that Batman is far inferior to Superman. No, Batman won regardless of circumstances. You could make the argument he even beat him in Tower of Babel via his own drawn up plans used by Ra's Al Ghul instead.

No, the fact that Superman decided to waste time gloating and making him beg while Batman spat some kryptonie gum in his eye, shows that he wasn't there to kill him. You could technically say Batman won, but that was due to Superman's mind controlled gloating, rather than Batman's beating him under his own merits.

It's been a while since I read TOB, but didn't his plan involve shooting him with a kryptonite bullet by catching him of guard?. I don't think that counts as a victory any more than knocking out Bruce Banner and claiming you beat the Hulk

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@rbt: Here is a perfect example why you have 0 credibility on most of your posts.

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@rbt: Here is a perfect example why you have 0 credibility on most of your posts.

Okay.

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#22 rogueshadow  Moderator

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He doesn't need prep.

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Not a chance. Some things you can't prep for.

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#24  Edited By mindleech

@supremeintelligence said:

anyone can beat anyone under the right circumstances

Indeed, but nobody has as thick plot armor as Bat. Realistically the Surfer would one shot Batman even before the billionaire could blink tho.

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Bats had a struggle beating Supes, the few times he did, and those were only due to Supes having a well-known weakness. And while Supes is pretty dang powerful, he's no where near a cosmic level. Not by a long shot.

SS wields the power cosmic itself, and has no well-known weaknesses. Because of this he makes characters like Supes look like D list superheroes at best.

If he makes Supes look D list, Bats ain't got nothing that comes close to being able to beat SS. Not by a long shot...

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No way

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@iara: no obvious weakness does not mean no weakness. Which is why Batman needs prep to figure out Silver Surfer's weakness and come up with a plan to exploit it

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Surfer got put in an arm lock by Black Panther. All Batman needs is one Batkick.

lol he said he let him do it on purpose to get information lmao

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NO! BILLION OF TIMES NO!

Silver Surfer will eat Batman and gotham for a snack of wasting his time at pointless goal

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Batman has never beaten Superman in a canon comic and no he doesn't beat Silver Surfer either

Still this.

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batman is prep

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#33  Edited By BlessedbyHorus

Batman has never beaten Superman. One of the biggest myths in comics.

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Surfer got put in an arm lock by Black Panther. All Batman needs is one Batkick.

Which Surfer allowed.

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Batman Bat-kick him

JK

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Surfer got put in an arm lock by Black Panther. All Batman needs is one Batkick.

You've never actually read the comic that happens in have you? SS let Panther do that to draw him into a false sense of security to get information out of him.

Surfer would slaughter Panther effortlessly if he wanted and he'd do the same to Batman, with or without prep.

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#37  Edited By Zevet

Alone? No, he can't. Preparation is critically dependent on available information and there simply is no data on Silver Surfer in that scenario. Human technology that Bruce relies on would be completely useless here. His best shot is to reach for the Green Lantern Corps ASAP and that is not exactly prep.

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Probably.

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@kgb725: Dr Doom with prep had absorbed his power cosmic once.

Batman could figure out a way and achieve what Dr Doom did.

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@namtab_god: Bats has nothing to suggest he could replicate Dooms machines.

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#41  Edited By GodSaveMeNow

@kgb725: really? Batman's abilities to invent stuff may be below that of Doom's but he makes up for that by plundering his enemies and allies' tech. What is to say he cannot steal a specific tech and repurpose it for his own use?

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@namtab_god: They are in 2 different universes even if they were in a shared universe . Batman would try to come up with his own method

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#43  Edited By GodSaveMeNow

@kgb725: what different universes? The logic goes like this:

1) there exists tech that can absorb power cosmic

2) batman is good at stealing

3) batman steals the tech

4) batman makes a plan where silver surfer falls into a trap involving that tech

The key issue is the very first step. Batman had many past feats involving the rest of the steps so these steps should be considered legit for Batman. It is only questionable whether such tech exists in the DC universe but given we are talking about a shared universe fight so I assume Batman can use tech from Marvel too.

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@namtab_god: Even if you assumed all of that.... Bruce isn't reverse engineering his tech

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@kgb725: firstly stealing does not need reverse engineering skills and secondly Batman is not going to steal just the plans or blueprints he would steal the tech and just enough information necessary to assemble something to defeat Silver Surfer. E.g.: Do I need to need to know how to build a computer from just scraps to know how to write software? Obviously no.

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Realistically: No

Zealot/Internet Hype: Psh Silver Surfer? He could clear the omniverse with prep

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#47  Edited By macleen

he hasn't beaten superman without PIS how will he beat surfer

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#48  Edited By Yosefscion

in dark nights comics event, Superman wondered why JL members thought Batman can beat superman one-on-one. Supes can rip batman in half, and with just a glare from Supes Batman would die. and yes, Batman's arm definitely got blasted by Supes iirc. "Don't you realize how weak you are all to me?"

of course, right after that Batman just pulled out Doomsday virus to turn himself into Doomsday and proceed to beat out the crap of superfamily :p . but this Doomsday is all about brute force, he can't even fly, so he'd lose to surfer.

another is New God batman. but I'm pretty sure he can't access mobius chair anymore. even then it only grants teleportation and cosmic awareness. so he loses to surfer, again.

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@namtab_god: The tech is literally on his gauntlets he would need to defeat him and then take it off of him and escape with it.

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Hell no