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Poll: Ywach desructive tier . (88 votes)

Town 10%
City 3%
Small country 19%
small Continent 16%
Moon 2%
Largest countrys 2%
Planet 11%
Multi planet 13%
Solar system 1%
Galaxy 2%
Universe 19%

I just want to hear your opinions about Ywach desructive tier .

Ywach showed he can destroy 3 dimension from the 4 dimension of bleach , but we dont know their size (as my best known there are 4 dimension in bleach : Dangai , Hueco Mundo , Soul Society ,Word of the living , and often 5 , the valley of screams , )

So guys , what you think about what ywach desructive tier is?

Please post your vote , and write down why you think your anwser is ywach desructive tier.

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#1 Posted by FaradaySloth (8484 posts) - - Show Bio

He’s closer to small contintent than small country.

He’s definitely multi-planet Level in Potentcy though

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#2 Posted by XLR87T3 (9712 posts) - - Show Bio

Literally no feats of destroying a continent. Shikai Kenpachi destroyed a island sized meteor, no one has a destruction feat anywhere close to that.

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#3 Posted by MrViking (796 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for opinions.

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#4 Edited by JOVIOLMA (5577 posts) - - Show Bio

High Hyperversal

Yhwach

The path has now closed. Ichigo. The path to a world without fear. The Human World, Soul Society, Hueco Mundo. They belong together as one. They should have been brought together, that life and death may mingle as one. But now that path exists no longer. All thanks to you, Ichigo. How disappointing. Because of you, life and death will not lose their form. All living things will continue to live their lives in fear of death...for all eternity.
The path has now closed. Ichigo. The path to a world without fear. The Human World, Soul Society, Hueco Mundo. They belong together as one. They should have been brought together, that life and death may mingle as one. But now that path exists no longer. All thanks to you, Ichigo. How disappointing. Because of you, life and death will not lose their form. All living things will continue to live their lives in fear of death...for all eternity.

Attack Potency

Hyperversal- Far superior to Shikai Kenpachi who casually destroyed an Endless Dimensional Abstract Structure without releasing his eyepatch

Hyperversal- Casually one shot Ichibei after he awakened his eyes

High Hyperversal- Effortless lifted the Wandenreich an Infinite-D Realm, was also stated to be an infinite dimensional being after absorbing the Soul King and Mimihagi

High Hyperversal, likely higher- Absorbed Ichigo's Powers along with Gerard and Jugram's Powers

Speed

Immeasurable- Superior to Haschwalth who was beyond the concept of speed and distance and kept up with Ichibei

Immeasurable- Intercepted Mimihagi who could move beyond linear time, and move in higher dimensions where the concept of distance, movement and speed was null

Immeasurable, likely higher- Faster than before, absorbed Mimihagi, Ichigo, Gerard & Jugram's powers

Lifting Strength

Immeasurable-Effortless lifted the Wandenreich

Striking Strength

Hyperversal

Hyperversal

High Hyperversal

Durability

Hyperversal Level- Tanked Ichibei's attacks, higher with Blut Vene

High Hyperversal Level- Absorbed the Soul King, Mimihagi, Ichigo, Gerard and Jugram's powers increasing his durability to Infinite Dimensional proportions, higher with Blut Vene

Stamina

Limitless

Range

High Hyperversal- Was affecting an Infinite Amount of Dimensions(0-D to Infinite-D) and threat to fuse all the Dimensions into One.

Standard Equipment

His medallion, which can steal a Bankai, having used it to steal Zanka no Tachi, and his Spirit Weapons, the Sankt Bogen and an unnamed sword.

Intelligence

Nigh Omniscient

Weaknesses

Yhwach is quite arrogant, and the Almighty cannot dispel illusions that were placed on him before he activated the Almighty.

Notable Attacks/Techniques

  • Soul Distribution: As the son of the Soul King, Yhwach was born with the special ability to distribute portions of his soul to others on contact. Yhwach cultivates his already great power by bestowing these bits of his soul to others, allowing them to refine it, and then taking it back. Each piece of his soul that Yhwach regains will make him stronger and extend his lifespan, and he can deliberately absorb these pieces of soul to maintain his strength, which he must do during his sleep to prevent himself from returning to the immobile state he was born in. Those who are gifted a portion of Yhwach's soul have their lifespans greatly reduced, but all their ailments, whether physical, spiritual, or mental, are healed and all their knowledge and skills are engraved onto their share of his soul. Once their lowered lifespans run out, the piece of Yhwach's soul returns to his possession, ultimately restoring his motor skills and senses after he lost them. Yhwach ultimately refined the process of sharing his spirit with others, allowing him to bestow upon them great powers through a Schrift, engraving a letter corresponding to a certain one of his powers into their soul and then having them drink his blood. The Quincies that gained powers in this way are Yhwach's Sternritter, and upon their deaths, their power will return to Yhwach's hands once more.
  • Auswählen: A beam of Conceptual Light that consumes its targets Life Force, Spiritual, Astral, Physical, Mental, Conceptual, and Spectral Energy, and that can be used by Yhwach to resurrect the ones that were killed, the chance of survive the technique is nigh-impossible, whoever depending of the person, they have a probability of 0.00004 % of chance to survive the technique after getting hit by it. Even those that dodge the light lose their powers, including the ability to use Vollständig. Reishi barriers cannot stop Auswählen at all, as the power it transfers is raw energy. The Quincies who are affected by the Auswählen have a clot of "Still Silver" formed in their heart that will briefly strip away Yhwach's powers if it comes into contact with him.
  • Absorption: Yhwach can consume any dimensional beings on contact, independent of their dimensional tier,gaining their powers and abilities and drawing their own existence into his body to subjugate them which delete them from existence and story itself. He can near instantly absorb those weaker than him, but those that are stronger take longer and longer amounts of time.
  • Sankt Altar: Yhwach summons five orbs of Reishi, which he transports to around his opponent, at which point they all fire a beam of energy at their target, forming the shape of a Quincy Zeichen. Those who are caught in the blast have all their power stripped away by Yhwach.
  • Self-Power Restoration: Even if Yhwach's physical or spiritual capabilities are hampered or somehow negated by his opponent, he can restore them.
  • The Almighty: Yhwach's own power and the source of his designation as "A". The technique allows Yhwach to rewrite the aspects of Story itself and even rewrite the existence of persons, dimensions, techniques and concepts. While using it, Yhwach can see every single Possibilite and Impossibilite from Past, Present and Future on his path, allowing him to know everything single thing about his opponent and his techniques, the techniques that Yhwach see in the possibilities and impossibilities cannot recognized his existence and cannot inflict on him the concept of damage or any other, rendering them useless in the process since they cannot warm him due the fact that the Almighty denies the existence of the technique and grants the user Immunity to every kind of concept and Astral, Physical, Spectral, Mental, Spiritual, Temporal and Existencial Damage is completely nullified. Yhwach also can use the technique to rewrite Story itself in a battle and even erase from history the use of a attack or technique, for example, he could rewrite the existence of Orihime's shield after it blocking his attack to protect Ichigo, after erasing it from existence, the damage that Yhwach would inflict on Ichigo but it was blocked by the shield happened since the shield never existed to being with after the Almighty erase it from story, the technique also denies the every single Concept of Immortality and Regeneration of even Abstract beings and Higher Dimensional ones, and the damage made by it cannot be undone.
  • Blut:An advanced Quincy technique that works by pumping Reishi into the planes of existence, reinforcing either their strength or durability to exceptional levels
  • Blut Vene Anhaben: Blut's defensive form, Allows Yhwach to summon an Conceptual Shield made of Endless Dimensional tiers(0-D to Infinite-D) The shield also can consume the energy and existence of the ones that try to touch it.
  • Kirchenlied: Sankt Zwinger: An incredibly powerful Quincy spell, the greatest in both offensive and defensive power. After generating several constructs inscribed with roman numerals, Yhwach can manifest several columns of Reishi shaped like the Quincy Cross around him, which burst from the ground, erasing from existence any caught in the "light of god".
  • Ransōtengai: A highly advanced Quincy technique that lets the user control their own body with strings of Reiryoku connected to their planes of existence. Thanks to this ability, even if the user is paralyzed or so badly injured that they cannot move normally, they can force their body to move by controlling it as if it were a marionette.
  • Sankt Bogen: Yhwach's Conceptual Weapon, an immense bow that he can manifest in his hands or somewhere in his surroundings, using it to fire at his opponents with similarly large arrow, the Arrow's speed denies the concept of evasion, defense and durability.
  • Heilig Pfeil: The primary form of attack for Quincies, Spiritual energy manifested as arrows and fired from the Sankt Bogen, or in Yhwach's case, even just from his fingertips. He can fire them as a Immeasurable barrage capable of completely erasing from Time itself the ones killed by it
  • Sklaverei: A Quincy technique that allows the user to control Reishi in any possible and impossible way, enslaving it outright. This powerful ability allows them to completely tear apart and dissolve Astral, Physical, Mental, Abstract, Spectral, Temporal and Spiritual objects and beings, drawing upon this and even absorbing this Reishi to temporarily gain the abilities of beings destroyed in this way.
  • Shadow: A teleportation ability used by members of the Wandenreich, this technique usually is used by manifesting the user's shadows in front of them, creating a portal that allows one to travel between Lowers and Higher Dimensions and even other Realms of Fiction. The size of these portals can be extended to allow many others to pass through.

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#5 Edited by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

He hasn’t actually “destroyed” anything, but by statements from the manga and novel and scaling, he could definitely bust a planet at least.

There was also that mont when he engulfed seireitei co that should count for something I guess.

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#6 Edited by AlexTheBoss (16973 posts) - - Show Bio

He should at least be around small country level based off of statements and scaling.

He can destroy and reform a planet's surface if given enough time.

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#7 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4259 posts) - - Show Bio

The entire last arc revolves around him destroying the 3 worlds. At first he was going to do it with the hollow unbalance but that failed due to Mayuri, then he tried it with the Soul King unbalance but that failed due to Mimihagi so in the end he got fed up and just absorbed both Mimihagi and the Soul King to have enough power to do it himself. So common sense would lead us to believe he’s at least Multi-Planetary even if he didn’t actually destroy the worlds.

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#9 Posted by FaradaySloth (8484 posts) - - Show Bio

Yhwach engulfing the Seretei dwarfs Kenpachi Meteor feat via covering the whole place and then the outside (including making mountain ranges seem like a lego.)

So lmao @ him being anything below country.

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#10 Posted by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: what mountain ranges did he make to look like legos?

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#11 Edited by geeman2 (2006 posts) - - Show Bio

Seretei is around small country in size and Yhwach completely covered it, so small country level up to multi-planetary if his claims of destroying all of the soul society is to be believed.

However he doesn't have a single feat that surpasses small country.

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#13 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is there no option between city and small country? I would say island level minimum and small country max.

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#14 Posted by MrViking (796 posts) - - Show Bio

@geeman2: Intresting opinion , but the Soul Society is a dimension .

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#15 Edited by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

@worldofruin6 said:

Why is there no option between city and small country? I would say island level minimum and small country max.

Because scaling, context, multiple statements from multiple mediums and logic exist

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#16 Edited by SkySanji (4582 posts) - - Show Bio

Small country

Wtf is solar system,Galaxy and universe am option?

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#17 Edited by ZeromusEG (123 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol on options of Ywach being universal.DBZ have multiple people who can oneshot HST but even in this series nobody is universal. No Super Perfect Cell, no Goku SSJ3, No Buu.Nobody.

Statements from characters arent enough to put someone on this level. I dont want to start flamewar but for few second lets be real: nobody in Bleach has one country/moon level feat.But Yhwach is suddenly universal? Why? Because he say he can? Kaguya from Naruto have statements about creating/destroyng dimension and I dont think she is universal.Why? Nobody in Naruto have one planetery feat and they beat her. Entire HST putt together isnt even close to universe level let alone Yhwach.

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#18 Edited by CaoCao (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

Even with highballing, that would put him maximal on planet level, since we have no significant size of the dimensions.

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#19 Posted by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

>statements from chars aren’t enough

>literally the whole plot of the final arc.

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#20 Edited by frostplatinum (223 posts) - - Show Bio

Yhwach is simple to scale. All he wanted to do was destroy the 3 worlds, which isn't stated only once or twice, it's stated multiple times by many characters other than just Yhwach. Author's intent was obviously to make him multi planet level, that's literally the whole reason why he was a villain and Ichigo and everyone else wanted to stop him. Downplaying him to anything below planet is just ridiculous imo, but unfortunately for as much highballing there is for Bleach on this site there is also much lowballing.

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#21 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

@caocao said:

Even with highballing, that would put him maximal on planet level, since we have no significant size of the dimensions.

Your wrong their stars,moons and space in SS and human world many

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Saying hes country level is just ridiculous loook att all those stats

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#22 Posted by katanalauncher (3589 posts) - - Show Bio

Around country level with his telekinesis feat

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#23 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16973 posts) - - Show Bio

@frostplatinum: @ourmanuel: He was going to destroy and recreate those worlds over time. People can destroy and build a small house by themselves, they are not house level. You do need a certain level of power to complete the feat though, just like a human can't destroy and recreate a city by themselves, even if you give them their whole life. If Yhwach could have instantly completed his goal at any second, he would have done so, but he didn't. However he clearly needs massive amounts of power to do what he was going to do. I think it's fare to put him at country level, and by country level I meant wipe out a country in one attack almost instantly, which is not something I think he can do to a planet.

TLDR he has the power to destroy and reform planets, but that doesn't put him at planet level in combat.

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#24 Posted by CaoCao (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@alextheboss:

@caocao said:

Even with highballing, that would put him maximal on planet level, since we have no significant size of the dimensions.

Your wrong their stars,moons and space in SS and human world many

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Saying hes country level is just ridiculous loook att all those stats

Feats, which put him above country level?

Which level is he in your opinion?

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#25 Edited by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: I wasn’t talking about combat, I understand what you mean.

I was talking about his capability. Like kaguya being able to dimension/planet bust with ETSB.

Both of these characters didn’t have the actual feats, but by scaling, context and logic we know that it was within their power.

But here’s the thing:

Gerard in his weakest transformation could perfectly match shikai kenpachi without his eyepatch. Yhwach absorbed his power. Ulquiorra could bust Las Noches with a spammable attack. Yhwach is many tiers above him. Then Yhwach absorbed the soul king himself, and according to the novel, he was the god of their universe even before being used to hold the 3 worlds.

Calling Yhwach anything less than multi-country to small continent in combat is some extremely disgusting lowball.

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#26 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao: well by your logic goku is mountain level because he never blew up a planet.

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#27 Edited by CaoCao (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@caocao: well by your logic goku is mountain level because he never blew up a planet.

That´s correct, but in Dragonball are already charakters who destroy planets and at least one charakter who destroys universes. So why shouldn´t Goku destroy Planets, if far weaker charakters in Dragonball can do it?

We have non-planetary feats in Bleach and we have (Universal?)-statements. This is a huge difference between feats and statements.

Which level is Yhwach in your opinion?

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#28 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: yeah goku never blew up planet be we know hes at least universal by scaling. People in the other thread believe naruto is a moon buster. Dispite not having single feat it just goes to show how much bleach gets lowballed

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#29 Edited by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao: at least galaxy because its been stated that many times he destroy 3 dimensions not mention je absorbed the soul king who created them in the first place

The dimensions have space stars and a moons

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#30 Edited by CaoCao (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

People in the other thread believe naruto is a moon buster. Dispite not having single feat it just goes to show how much bleach gets lowballed

I didn´t see Naruto destroyed a moon, but he tanked an attack which cut the moon. He probably has the durability to tank a moon buster (Which i did´t believe) , but not the power to destroy a moon sized object, or someone who is moon level. He needs Sasuke his help to create a moon sized object if i remember right.

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@caocao: at least galaxy because its been stated that many times he destroy 3 dimensions not mention je absorbed the soul king who created them in the first place

The dimensions have space stars and a moons

Hmm.. ok.

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#31 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao: hollow moon with only the crust thats 1% the mass of the moon.

Him and sasuke did create moon. But they cant destroy. Naruto and sasuke both combined their stongest attacks and it came out to be no were near moon even with the attacks enhanced bu tailed beast chakra

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#32 Posted by weebbicboi (590 posts) - - Show Bio

Small Country - Small Continent level imo

lol at Galaxy level Yhwach

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#33 Posted by CaoCao (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@caocao: hollow moon with only the crust thats 1% the mass of the moon.

Him and sasuke did create moon. But they cant destroy. Naruto and sasuke both combined their stongest attacks and it came out to be no were near moon even with the attacks enhanced bu tailed beast chakra

That´s right, i forgot that the moon was empty. I agree.

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#35 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@juzacloud: No one want to except the fact that yhwach is a multi dimension buster. But its okay to call naruto planet level and kaguya

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#36 Posted by Tyki_Mikk25 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@caocao: at least galaxy because its been stated that many times he destroy 3 dimensions not mention je absorbed the soul king who created them in the first place

The dimensions have space stars and a moons

Three worlds, not three dimensions...

As Askin state it, he was able to destroy Hueco Mundo,The Real World and Soul Society and not more.

Which mean if we count that as feat he should scale to multi planet lvl, but even then it isn´t his regular Ap. The same goes for Kaguya, most like her Regular Ap is Continent/Moon lvl and only with her final move(who need time) she can destroy a planet and created some new. Same goes for Yhwach, his Ap is most like Continent/Moon lvl but his strongest feat who need time aswell is multi planet lvl. I hope we get more infos from the Novel.

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#37 Posted by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@caocao: at least galaxy because its been stated that many times he destroy 3 dimensions not mention je absorbed the soul king who created them in the first place

The dimensions have space stars and a moons

Three worlds, not three dimensions...

As Askin state it, he was able to destroy Hueco Mundo,The Real World and Soul Society and not more.

Which mean if we count that as feat he should scale to multi planet lvl, but even then it isn´t his regular Ap. The same goes for Kaguya, most like her Regular Ap is Continent/Moon lvl and only with her final move(who need time) she can destroy a planet and created some new. Same goes for Yhwach, his Ap is most like Continent/Moon lvl but his strongest feat who need time aswell is multi planet lvl. I hope we get more infos from the Novel.

Rukia said their dimensions. And his ap scales higher than Kenpachi who cutt the fabric of space thats universal ap

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#39 Posted by Tyki_Mikk25 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre:

What Rukia state has nothing to do with Yhwach, we can see in the scans how he was absorbing only Soul Sociecty, Hueco Mundo and the Real World. Askin or someone other would mentinoned that other worlds/galaxy would effectet by Yhwach power but he only mentioned the three worlds which means he was only able to cover three worlds with his power.

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#40 Edited by diydeath (2409 posts) - - Show Bio

Multi planet if we consider his black slow acting goo destructive. He's no planet buster but given enough time he's bare minimum capable of destroying earth, ss and hm.

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#41 Edited by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@tyki_mikk25: when they say worlds they mean dimension she calls the human world a dimension. Makes no sense if its just one planet. Kubo would have been more specific and said it was just planets its existence period

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#42 Posted by COOLGUY18 (971 posts) - - Show Bio

Universal yhwach sounds stupid.

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#43 Posted by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

Yhwach definitely isn’t universal.

hes more of a multi planetary “ravager” I guess. I feel like the word “bust” isn’t appropriate.

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#44 Posted by frostplatinum (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss said:

@frostplatinum: @ourmanuel: He was going to destroy and recreate those worlds over time. People can destroy and build a small house by themselves, they are not house level. You do need a certain level of power to complete the feat though, just like a human can't destroy and recreate a city by themselves, even if you give them their whole life. If Yhwach could have instantly completed his goal at any second, he would have done so, but he didn't. However he clearly needs massive amounts of power to do what he was going to do. I think it's fare to put him at country level, and by country level I meant wipe out a country in one attack almost instantly, which is not something I think he can do to a planet.

TLDR he has the power to destroy and reform planets, but that doesn't put him at planet level in combat.

Yhwach did have the massive amounts of power needed to do it, it's stated by many. However there was nothing and no one that stated or implied that he was going to do it over time. And I'm quite sure he would've destroyed all 3 at any second, but he was being distracted by Ichigo and Aizen.

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#45 Posted by EcoBlitz (4588 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleach is lowballed but ywach is at least planet level in potency despite literally 0 feats remotely on that level.

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#46 Edited by JuzaCloud (3416 posts) - - Show Bio

Besides Yhwach "destroying" 3 worlds. The bigger ability he has that never gets talked about is him being able to manipulate how life/death works.

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#47 Posted by ourmanuel (10511 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz said:

Bleach is lowballed but ywach is at least planet level in potency despite literally 0 feats remotely on that level.

No one called him planetary in potency.

@alextheboss said:

@frostplatinum: @ourmanuel: He was going to destroy and recreate those worlds over time. People can destroy and build a small house by themselves, they are not house level. You do need a certain level of power to complete the feat though, just like a human can't destroy and recreate a city by themselves, even if you give them their whole life. If Yhwach could have instantly completed his goal at any second, he would have done so, but he didn't. However he clearly needs massive amounts of power to do what he was going to do. I think it's fare to put him at country level, and by country level I meant wipe out a country in one attack almost instantly, which is not something I think he can do to a planet.

TLDR he has the power to destroy and reform planets, but that doesn't put him at planet level in combat.

Yhwach did have the massive amounts of power needed to do it, it's stated by many. However there was nothing and no one that stated or implied that he was going to do it over time. And I'm quite sure he would've destroyed all 3 at any second, but he was being distracted by Ichigo and Aizen.

This and if I decided to wank irl physics, his feat of raising Wahrwelt from soul society to the palace indicates planet life-wiping energy.

He did have the power the entire time, he just chose not to do anything because he wanted to face ichigo first for the sake of plot. He wasn’t amassing any power the whole time he waited for and fought ichigo. He already had all the power he needed to merge the worlds from the moment he absorbed the soul king.

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#48 Edited by ComicGirl21 (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

Low multiversal. Isnt on the list. 3 dimensions is 3 universes in other words. Each of these places has not just their own earth but planets, sun, moon, stars and cosmos. Theres no reason to think they are not their own universes. They do not have physical borders, they are WORLDS. And Yhwach was going to destroy and restructure the ENTIRE things, entire dimensions. So he can at least bust 3 umiverses. Which is a low multiversal feat.

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#49 Edited by Undre (2515 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicgirl21: Omg thank u someone who understands. People dont want to believe yhwach can be any higher than planet. Dispite it being stated many times hes a dimension buster. Which each dimension has a universe. Not just a planet lol. You see the sun,moon,stars space ect

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#50 Posted by Streak619 (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

lmao