By bigsambino87 36 Comments
I suppose that everyone has their own ranking system, and most of us base it off of statements made by the creative minds behind Star Wars, everyone from Lucas to Gillard to Filloni. Of course, at times, these statements can become a bit confusing, when you have different talent making remarks about the characters at different times. Such as Lucas stating that to compete with the Emperor, you either have to be Mace or Yoda. We then have a claim by Gillard stating that Mace is a high 8, almost a 9, and that Anakin in ROTS is a 9. Does that mean that these statements contradict each other? Or can we reconcile them, somehow?
I say yes.
Gillard is usually talking in terms of dueling, and he is stating that Mace is an 8, Anakin is a 9, but is he accounting for Force powers? I'm going to say no.
A high 8 can compete with a 9, when you take everything into perspective. Especially if we take Legends into account, we can see the Mace has some powers that Anakin does not, i.e. Vaapad.
Let's break it down into a few categories.
Force Strength: How strong a character is when using the Force (physical strength)
Force Speed: How fast a character is when using the Force
Dexterity: How agile a character is when using the Force
Constitution: How much offense a character can take
Defense: How well a character's defense is with a blade
Offense: How well a character's offense is with a blade
Charisma: How well a character can influence others
Wisdom: Foresight, ability to use Dun Moch, quick decision making
Willpower: How much a character can endure, be it pain/stamina
Perception: How well a character can interact with outside events during a fight
The highest one can achieve is a perfect 100.
Let's use Sidious as an example:
Strength-8, Speed-10, Dexterity-10, Constitution-9, Defense-9, Offense-10, Charisma-10, Wisdom-9, Willpower-9, Perception-10.
That would give Sidious a total of 94 out of 100.
Strength-9, Speed-10, Dexterity-10, Constitution-9, Defense-9, Offense-10, Charisma-8, Wisdom-9, Willpower-9, Perception-10
That would give Yoda a 93 out of 100.
Now let's take a look at somebody like Anakin.
Strength-10, Speed-10, Dexterity-9, Constitution-9, Defense-9, Offense-10, Charisma-8, Wisdom-8, Willpower-9, Perception-8
Anakin would have an 90 out of 100
Mace Windu: Strength-9, Speed-9, Dexterity-8, Constitution-9, Defense-9, Offense-9, Charisma-8, Wisdom-8, Willpower-9, Perception-10
Mace would have an 88 out of 100.
Now Kenobi: Strength-7, Speed-8, Dexterity-8, Constitution-8, Defense-10, Offense-8, Charisma-8, Wisdom-8, Willpower-8, Perception-10
Kenobi has an 83. His highest marks are in Defense and Perception, which is a great counter for Anakin's superior Strength and Offense.
Let's take a look at a Legends character, like Darth Caedus.
Strength-9, Speed-9, Dexterity-9, Constitution-10, Defense-9, Offense-9, Charisma-8, Wisdom-9, Willpower-8, Perception-10
Caedus would have a 90. Higher than Mace and Kenobi, but beneath Yoda and Sidious, and equal to Anakin.
How about an OR character, like Darth Bane?
Strength-10, speed-8, Dexterity-7, Constitution-8, Defense-9, Offense-9, Charisma-7, Wisdom-8, Willpower-8, Perception-8
Bane gets an 82, here. Very strong, and still very fast, but definitely beneath Sidious. His lowest points are in Charisma and Dexterity. He's not the best at influencing others, and he's not as agile as the others on the list.
Now let's look at Darth Vader.
Strength-10, Speed-7, Dexterity-7, Constitution-10, Defense-10, Offense-9, Charisma-8, Wisdom-8, Willpower-9, Perception-8
This makes Darth Vader an 86. His Speed, Dexterity, and Offense have decreased, but his Constitution, Willpower, and Perception have increased. Basically, he's a slower, tougher, smarter version of himself.
Strength-8, Speed-9, Dexterity-8, Constitution-10, Defense-8, Offense-10, Charisma-7, Wisdom-7, Willpower-9, Perception-7
Maul has an 83. He's very fast, very tough, but he doesn't always think ahead.
Others may have a better way of ranking certain characters, but this is my way. And for me, it explains how someone like Kenobi, who is an 8, is able to compete with Anakin, who is a 9.
It's really a way of showing how logically, Kenobi can beat someone like Bane, though just barely.
We know that the Rule of Two was meants to produce stronger Sith with each generation. Of course, stronger may mean actually strength in the Force, and a greater knowledge. The Banite Sith valued knowledge above all. For them, knowledge was power, and that is what led to Sidious being able to overthrow the Republic and the Jedi, at a time when the Jedi Order was stronger than ever.
For instance, let's take a look at Darth Zannah
Strength-7, Speed-8, Dexterity-8, Constitution-8, Defense-9, Offense-8, Charisma-9, Wisdom-8, Willpower-9, Perception-9
Zannah get's an 83 here. One point above Bane. She lacks in strength, but has high Defense, Charisma, Willpower, and Perception. Her Sorcery is going to come into play with Willpower and Perception.
It's really hard to rate Cognus, because at the time we see her, she is VASTLY pre-prime. My personal opinion is that the entire Banite line of Sith start out as Tier 8's, and only become Tier 9's around perhaps the time of Tenebrous.
Can one be massively powerful in the Force, and yet still be on a lower tier? I say yes, because of lack of application.
If Bane and Kenobi are both 8's, with Kenobi technically being slightly above Bane, who is to say that Kenobi couldn't accomplish some of the feats that Bane has?
Well, for one, Bane never had to fight anyone as skilled as Kenobi, Maul, Dooku, etc. Yes, he fought Kas'im, but we have a hard time ranking him, because of the limited amount of feats he has, other than dueling Bane. We have mostly accolades.
I'd like to hear the thoughts of others regarding all this. Perhaps rank a few characters of your own using this system, or let us know what your system is!