Why Do DC Fans Hate Marvel (Or Vice Versa)?
Why Do DC Fans Hate Marvel (Or Vice Versa)?
Humans love conflict.
This basically. Also because people become proud of their heroes, (especially when you have a valuable collection of said heroes comics), so they feel threatened by the idea of "my hero is better than your hero".
Why does it have to be one or the other?
It's like the Yankees and the Red Sox. Sure a lover of baseball in general can like both teams, but for the most part, they are rivals thus their respective fans choose sides.
I believe people can read both, but they like one more than the other (for me it's Marvel over DC, though I read both).
Hate is a pretty strong word. While I have, and collect, more DC titles (and probably always will) I've spent a lot of money on Marvel in books, movies and so on. (Everything but video games. Don't like video games.)
What I do dislike are the stereo-types and double-standards too many Marvel fanboys have about DC. More relatable characters? DC's heroes are over-powered? To quote John McEnroe. "You can not be serious!!" They keep rehashing this stuff like it's actually fact, like it's 2+2=4. The arguments get shot down as either untrue, or pointing out that Marvel's no different, and yet a few weeks later, we'll see them at it again.
If you like Marvel more because you like Marvel more, that's fine. No need to justify it, or "prove" that you have valid reasons for it.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
It's like the Yankees and the Red Sox. Sure a lover of baseball in general can like both teams, but for the most part, they are rivals thus their respective fans choose sides.
I don't buy into that analogy :P Lifelong Boston fan and steadfast Red Sox fan and I enjoy both companies.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
It's like the Yankees and the Red Sox. Sure a lover of baseball in general can like both teams, but for the most part, they are rivals thus their respective fans choose sides.
I don't buy into that analogy :P Lifelong Boston fan and steadfast Red Sox fan and I enjoy both companies.
How dare you not like my analogy? pfft, typical Boston fan >.>
The average person likes whichever does the better thing(so currently Marvel has a slight lead in the public's eyes as they don't read comics). In comics with comicbook fans however most like both equally or only give a slight edge to one or the other. I personally love both equally but not equally at the same time. Meaning one week I may be more into DC and the next I may be more into Marvel.
Overall, the people who are vocal saying mine's better than yours, cause my is a masterpiece and yours is crap are just a minority begging to start a fight with you. As someone said above its like with sports the rivalry helps keep them going.
ya as said earlier, people just like disliking the thing on the other side of the fence. just like with sports teams, people get the idea that if they like something than the stuff they don't like as much must be garbage.
I don't really see any reason to choose a side. I follow characters, not companies.
This. Though I prefer DC a little bit more.
It's just a rivalry. When you eventually give both universes a chance, you realize there's stuff to enjoy/hate on both sides and you become a much more balanced fan of the comics medium. Just as important, is making the choice to read something outside the Big 2.
People love the one company too much, and they believe they can't love the other. So they decide that they have to hate (which pretty dumb if you ask me).
It's like an everlasting argument that will never end... I for one like them equally. I mean look at my profile . It shows DC and Marvel heroes in the midst of battle with no one winning. I have no hate for both. But there is always rivalries when it comes to human nature.
@comicace3: Except for Land's porn faces. We gotta hate those. :P Poor Ironman.
I like both of them. I prefer DC because Superman was my favorite T.V. show character when I was a child. But I don't hate Marvel in any way.
@jonny_anonymous *They're, and their. Sorry to be a grammar nazi.
I don't know if they necessarily 'hate' one another, but I have encountered fans who grew up with a certain company and refuse to go for the other. Mostly it's either out of ignorance (i.e. they haven't tried it and have generalizations), or they have but just prefer the characters or events on their side.
I never understood fans who sided with one over the other though. I mean, if you prefer DC to Marvel but still read some of the latter, I can buy that. But to completely swear off the other seems a little odd. The Big Two practically go hand in hand when it comes to reading superhero comics.
I buy many Marvel and DC titles every month, I love them both equally. However, I do hate how expensive this hobby of mine can be.
Superiority/inferiority complex
I love how you said that with a Superman avatar.
@manwhohaseverything said:
Hate is a pretty strong word. While I have, and collect, more DC titles (and probably always will) I've spent a lot of money on Marvel in books, movies and so on. (Everything but video games. Don't like video games.)
What I do dislike are the stereo-types and double-standards too many Marvel fanboys have about DC. More relatable characters? DC's heroes are over-powered? To quote John McEnroe. "You can not be serious!!" They keep rehashing this stuff like it's actually fact, like it's 2+2=4. The arguments get shot down as either untrue, or pointing out that Marvel's no different, and yet a few weeks later, we'll see them at it again.
If you like Marvel more because you like Marvel more, that's fine. No need to justify it, or "prove" that you have valid reasons for it.
No, people say it like it is an opinion deal with many people feel like DC characters in general are overpowered DC have more cosmic stories and therefor people with greater powers. Where in general Marvel has a broader variant of street level characters. Besides Batman universe it is real only Green Arrow that deals with street level problems in the DC universe.
@manwhohaseverything said:
Hate is a pretty strong word. While I have, and collect, more DC titles (and probably always will) I've spent a lot of money on Marvel in books, movies and so on. (Everything but video games. Don't like video games.)
What I do dislike are the stereo-types and double-standards too many Marvel fanboys have about DC. More relatable characters? DC's heroes are over-powered? To quote John McEnroe. "You can not be serious!!" They keep rehashing this stuff like it's actually fact, like it's 2+2=4. The arguments get shot down as either untrue, or pointing out that Marvel's no different, and yet a few weeks later, we'll see them at it again.
If you like Marvel more because you like Marvel more, that's fine. No need to justify it, or "prove" that you have valid reasons for it.
No, people say it like it is an opinion deal with many people feel like DC characters in general are overpowered DC have more cosmic stories and therefor people with greater powers. Where in general Marvel has a broader variant of street level characters. Besides Batman universe it is real only Green Arrow that deals with street level problems in the DC universe.
Problem is a lot of DC "street-leveler" books don't sell well, got cancelled, or are new. They have more than GA and the Bat Family. Birds of Prey, All-Star Western, Katana, The Movement, Deathstroke, Hawk and Dove....granted I don't read all of these, but it's hard for me to imagine Slade running around outer space fighting cosmic forces on a regular basis. Plus, "only" the Batman Universe? That's about 1/3rd of DC's titles right there. The X-Men are cosmic in nature quite often, and they make up a big chunk of the Marvel's titles. Marvel's street-levelers sell better, and may be better books, but that doesn't mean DC is more cosmic, or that Marvel has a wider variety of street-levelers. Now I agree that many people feel like Marvel is more down to earth, but I don't think it's all that true.
As for the "over-powered" thing. I'll never understand on one hand, how Superman is called "over-powered" by so many folks that will then turn around and swear he'd lose to Hulk, Thor and Silver Surfer. Well, if Superman is over-powered, but would get smacked around by Thor...what does that make Thor?
Back to the OP. I don't hate Marvel. I may seem that way sometimes, because I think many Marvel fans say things in comparing the two companies which aren't true. (Regardless of how they feel.)
@manwhohaseverything: Now Deathstroke and Hawk is getting canceled and I would say that Birds of Prey belongs to the bat universe. That DC is focusing so much around the Bat universes is imo not an excision for not trying out other characters. That FF is not that popular in the Marvel universe and that GL at DC has several books is another "prove" or indication that DC has a more cosmic feel. Don't forget that many of DC characters is either an alien or a god like person. Marvel seems to have more characters that got their powers by accident (radiation) than have them because they are from another universe or something like that. Even GL that is just a man with a ring is based on cosmic power since the ring is cosmic.
Following both companies just seems like far too much work for me. I decided on the company with the heroes/villains/stories that appeal to me most: Marvel. I don't hate DC, I just don't have the time or cash to learn about their universe.
@manwhohaseverything: Now Deathstroke and Hawk is getting canceled and I would say that Birds of Prey belongs to the bat universe. That DC is focusing so much around the Bat universes is imo not an excision for not trying out other characters. That FF is not that popular in the Marvel universe and that GL at DC has several books is another "prove" or indication that DC has a more cosmic feel. Don't forget that many of DC characters is either an alien or a god like person. Marvel seems to have more characters that got their powers by accident (radiation) than have them because they are from another universe or something like that. Even GL that is just a man with a ring is based on cosmic power since the ring is cosmic.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think that because a lot of DC's street-levlers don't succeed (aside from Batman) that means "they don't try". They do try. If anything, I think looking at DC's and Marvel's top books tells you more about the fan-bases than about the companies. That's why I can't agree when Marvel fans start saying Marvel's has more "grounded"/street level characters. They might means "Marvel's street-levelers are more successful than DC's (aside from Batman.) But that doesn't mean they have a lot more.
Appreciate where you're coming from, but going back to my first post in this topic. I still fail to see where Marvel's characters are "more relatable" or less powerful than DC's. And that's my original complaint. I fail to see where either of those things are true, even if I concede DC has a more cosmic feel...(which I don't concede)
It's apparent that Marvel is really trying to push this cosmic angle lately. So many titles from the NOW revamp start an ish with some epic panel looking at the grand expanse of space. Or a wide view of some galaxy or cluster of planets and stars or something. But tbh, I'm not a fan of Marvel's cosmic stuff thus far. New Avengers is an exception as it has cosmic elements but its fairly grounded.
To me the best cosmic series is GL hands down. Johns really did something with that mythology and its really given DC the top spot in outer-space superhero stuff. My guess is Marvel is trying to replicate that to a smaller extent with Nova Corps and GOTG. But it just doesn't even come close to the epicness of Green Lantern.
I don't know if they necessarily 'hate' one another, but I have encountered fans who grew up with a certain company and refuse to go for the other. Mostly it's either out of ignorance (i.e. they haven't tried it and have generalizations), or they have but just prefer the characters or events on their side.
I never understood fans who sided with one over the other though. I mean, if you prefer DC to Marvel but still read some of the latter, I can buy that. But to completely swear off the other seems a little odd. The Big Two practically go hand in hand when it comes to reading superhero comics.
I'm more of a Marvel person but that doesn't mean I hate DC. I still get comics for DC characters, watch the movies and buy the games. I just prefer Marvel for growing up with the characters but I'm not close minded.
@manwhohaseverything: Maybe it has not so much to do with if DC try or not but what the succeed with. When look down on their ongoings the books would have a more cosmic feel. And personally I think that has to do with how he characters got their powers. And since DC has a more cosmic feel. The characters feels overpowered not because the problem they are facing don't need a cosmic feel but because the problems seems greater than everyday problems. Again besides FF which has one ongoing book there is no pure cosmic books at Marvel both Avengers and X-Men deals with national/international crisis.
@manwhohaseverything: Maybe it has not so much to do with if DC try or not but what the succeed with. When look down on their ongoings the books would have a more cosmic feel. And personally I think that has to do with how he characters got their powers. And since DC has a more cosmic feel. The characters feels overpowered not because the problem they are facing don't need a cosmic feel but because the problems seems greater than everyday problems. Again besides FF which has one ongoing book there is no pure cosmic books at Marvel both Avengers and X-Men deals with national/international crisis.
Hmmm..haven't read the X-Men in awhile, sounds like they sure have changed since my day.
@manwhohaseverything: Maybe it has not so much to do with if DC try or not but what the succeed with. When look down on their ongoings the books would have a more cosmic feel. And personally I think that has to do with how he characters got their powers. And since DC has a more cosmic feel. The characters feels overpowered not because the problem they are facing don't need a cosmic feel but because the problems seems greater than everyday problems. Again besides FF which has one ongoing book there is no pure cosmic books at Marvel both Avengers and X-Men deals with national/international crisis.
Hmmm..haven't read the X-Men in awhile, sounds like they sure have changed since my day.
I doubt I have read many X-men stories post Morrison. For me it was how is the X-men doing in this world (some times there would come the occasional X-Men from the future) but I didn't see it as cosmic. There is a difference between being science fiction and cosmic. For instance Magneto and Genosha was a cosmic story. God loves Man Kills that is probably the essence of the X-Men is also far from being cosmic.
Im a DC fan and the main reason im not so fond of marvel is because of the fanboys. Believe me im not saying Dc dosen't have fanboys because they do. But Deadpool Fanboys and Hulk Fanboys are just ridiculous! i see threads saying "Deadpool vs superman" and logic along the lines of "Deadpool has a healing factor therefore he wins". It gets really annoying. Im not saying Marvel ask for this but its what you get when you give deadpool new powers along the lines of: "deadpool can teleport weapons into his hands and can survive nucleuar oblitoration". Don't get me wrong i like the Avengers movie and the Ironman series but the Fanbiys just ruin it!
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