Those cannot be normal.They blasted off the upper portion of ground spikes and those old asgardian armors like those were made of paper.Those same asgardian armors have fared much better against asgardian energy blasts.There is no way a normal machine gun bullet >> asgardian energy bullets.Even Thor's lightning still left few chunks of those armors after hitting them,whereas the part where those bullets impacted were completely blasted off.So they were likely not normal.Not to mention there ammo.There ammo seemed much larger than what they normally have.
So either they were not normal,or Mr. Taiki just did that because it was fun,or looked cool.
Those cannot be normal.They blasted off the upper portion of ground spikes and those old asgardian armors like those were made of paper.Those same asgardian armors have fared much better against asgardian energy blasts.There is no way a normal machine gun bullet >> asgardian energy bullets.Even Thor's lightning still left few chunks of those armors after hitting them,whereas the part where those bullets impacted were completely blasted off.So they were likely not normal.Not to mention there ammo.There ammo seemed much larger than what they normally have.
So either they were not normal,or Mr. Taiki just did that because it was fun,or looked cool.
Depends. MCU fans will cling to Asgardian bullets/enchantment even though there is no single proof so that they can give Hela's spikes high durability feats. While DCEU fans would rather stick with what was said in the movie, they were from Texas and there was nowhere in the movie that mentions enhcantments or special bullets. Take your pick.
Pretty sure it was normal, though what's impressive about destroying rusted metal and zombies, like they actually scale to regular asgardians. Considering Hela's spike just went through the ship, bullets destroying it are contradictory and shouldn't be seen as more important than the fact her spike pierced a space ship, that went through the Devil's Anus and therefore must be durable.
Pretty sure it was normal, though what's impressive about destroying rusted metal and zombies, like they actually scale to regular asgardians. Considering Hela's spike just went through the ship, bullets destroying it are contradictory and shouldn't be seen as more important than the fact her spike pierced a space ship, that went through the Devil's Anus and therefore must be durable.
Well, not really. Bullets can also damage rocks if they are thin or brittle enough. But a huge pointy rock can stab through metal. Pretty much like what was shown. It is basically the size difference that makes up for the brittleness of Hela's blades.
I think they were enhanced and he made the bullets himself. He obviously had a lot of play time with the gun before so he most likely ran out of the human ammo already
if its MCU, questionable, unless stated, it is normal
DCEU we assume its not normal, like Diana's sword even if not stated.
The issue is that we have a basis to assume that Wonder Woman's sword is not normal. The rest of her gear is magical for one. Made by gods.
However, the guns in question were made in Texas. As confirmed in the movie. And nobody in Asgard knows what guns are basically. Is the implication here that the Executioner made his own bullets? Or that he hired a blacksmith in Asgard to do it for him? Or made a factory?
if its MCU, questionable, unless stated, it is normal
DCEU we assume its not normal, like Diana's sword even if not stated.
The issue is that we have a basis to assume that Wonder Woman's sword is not normal. The rest of her gear is magical for one. Made by gods.
However, the guns in question were made in Texas. As confirmed in the movie. And nobody in Asgard knows what guns are basically. Is the implication here that the Executioner made his own bullets? Or that he hired a blacksmith in Asgard to do it for him? Or made a factory?
or that her sword is a normal one? made by a blacksmith on the island like all spears and swords there?
Not stated to be Asgardian bullets anywhere. The M16s were stated to be from Texas and I'm sure Skurge did get the magazines filled with bullets too.
Sometimes Asgardians look really primitive when compared to Earth which is ironic because they claim to be more advanced than us. If only the Asgardians had an army armed with primitive assault rifles from Earth, they would easily wreck Hela's zombie force. If they had some powerful missiles or say something like the MoaB, they could've dropped it on Fenris and blown that stupid dog to bits. If they had access tu nukes, they could've nuked Hela and vaporized her without having to blow up their goddamn planet itself.
or that her sword is a normal one? made by a blacksmith on the island like all spears and swords there?
Well, we will find out in her solo movie. The thing is, we do not know where she got this sword from. She left the island never to return and the sword she took then was destroyed. The BVS Sword is the one she is sporting now, and we have no idea where she got it. However, we do know that she packs magic weaponry. We will have to wait and see exactly how she got the sword. But there is a precedent of her weaponry being magical both in comics and in the DCEU. Howeer, we have direct confirmation the guns were from Texas. And nothing to even indicate that Asgardians made the bullet.
This is just a poor attempt to discredit the fact that bullets went through old Asgardian armor.
Btw - I dont know where they got it from. but DCEU wiki says it is the sword of athena http://dcextendeduniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena
Thats same as asking " Is there any evidence Dianas sword was magical in BVS "
That's a stupid comparison, given that we know Diana's gear is magical in their origin.... Diana herself is as well. Everything about the Amazons is magical due to the Old Gods. Let's not forget that her sword has Ancient Greek writing all over it.
On the contrary, Skurge himself states that he got the guns from Texas.... a place that has no ties to any form of magic and is an earthly location.
or that her sword is a normal one? made by a blacksmith on the island like all spears and swords there?
Well, we will find out in her solo movie. The thing is, we do not know where she got this sword from. She left the island never to return and the sword she took then was destroyed. The BVS Sword is the one she is sporting now, and we have no idea where she got it. However, we do know that she packs magic weaponry. We will have to wait and see exactly how she got the sword. But there is a precedent of her weaponry being magical both in comics and in the DCEU. Howeer, we have direct confirmation the guns were from Texas. And nothing to even indicate that Asgardians made the bullet.
This is just a poor attempt to discredit the fact that bullets went through old Asgardian armor.
Btw - I dont know where they got it from. but DCEU wiki says it is the sword of athena http://dcextendeduniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena
It's not a reliable source, because even in the handbook, as far I've read doesn't mention where she got it from. It does state that it does have Anceint Greek inscriptions and what they mean. This is the best indication we've got.
Those cannot be normal.They blasted off the upper portion of ground spikes and those old asgardian armors like those were made of paper.Those same asgardian armors have fared much better against asgardian energy blasts.There is no way a normal machine gun bullet >> asgardian energy bullets.Even Thor's lightning still left few chunks of those armors after hitting them,whereas the part where those bullets impacted were completely blasted off.So they were likely not normal.Not to mention there ammo.There ammo seemed much larger than what they normally have.
So either they were not normal,or Mr. Taiki just did that because it was fun,or looked cool.
or that her sword is a normal one? made by a blacksmith on the island like all spears and swords there?
Well, we will find out in her solo movie. The thing is, we do not know where she got this sword from. She left the island never to return and the sword she took then was destroyed. The BVS Sword is the one she is sporting now, and we have no idea where she got it. However, we do know that she packs magic weaponry. We will have to wait and see exactly how she got the sword. But there is a precedent of her weaponry being magical both in comics and in the DCEU. Howeer, we have direct confirmation the guns were from Texas. And nothing to even indicate that Asgardians made the bullet.
This is just a poor attempt to discredit the fact that bullets went through old Asgardian armor.
Btw - I dont know where they got it from. but DCEU wiki says it is the sword of athena http://dcextendeduniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena
It's not a reliable source, because even in the handbook, as far I've read doesn't mention where she got it from. It does state that it does have Anceint Greek inscriptions and what they mean. This is the best indication we've got.
while the amazons swords has inscriptions on them also.. just saying
im not discrediting anything, this kind of movies are full of inconsistencies. normal bullets shouldnt pierce asgardian armor but hey, that is waikikis take on this.
just pointing the double standard when it comes to MCU and DCEU.
And, bear in mind that, while the movies are canon to the shows, i am yet to see anything to convince me the shows in any way affect the movie characters.
@titing2101: I'm not saying that it's telltale proof, but it's the best indication we've got so far, beside it completely withstanding a strike from a being that made Clark fly long distances with his punches and being able to cut the being twice after absorbing a nuke.
We don't have much to go off but the inscriptions. Besides, there's no proof that all other Amazonian swords aren't like Diana's.... Save for the 'God Killer' that was deliberately made as a sham.
And, bear in mind that, while the movies are canon to the shows, i am yet to see anything to convince me the shows in any way affect the movie characters.
pointblank on sif(if you dont consider this canon)...
@titing2101: I'm not saying that it's telltale proof, but it's the best indication we've got so far, beside it completely withstanding a strike from a being that made Clark fly long distances with his punches and being able to cut the being twice after absorbing a nuke.
We don't have much to go off but the inscriptions. Besides, there's no proof that all other Amazonian swords aren't like Diana's.... Save for the 'God Killer' that was deliberately made as a sham.
are you saying that the God Killer sword is normal? if yes, it sliced through metal like butter.
it may or may not slice doomsday. but we can assume either of those
@titing2101: I'm not saying that it's telltale proof, but it's the best indication we've got so far, beside it completely withstanding a strike from a being that made Clark fly long distances with his punches and being able to cut the being twice after absorbing a nuke.
We don't have much to go off but the inscriptions. Besides, there's no proof that all other Amazonian swords aren't like Diana's.... Save for the 'God Killer' that was deliberately made as a sham.
are you saying that the God Killer sword is normal? if yes, it sliced through metal like butter.
it may or may not slice doomsday. but we can assume either of those
@titing2101: I'm not saying that it's telltale proof, but it's the best indication we've got so far, beside it completely withstanding a strike from a being that made Clark fly long distances with his punches and being able to cut the being twice after absorbing a nuke.
We don't have much to go off but the inscriptions. Besides, there's no proof that all other Amazonian swords aren't like Diana's.... Save for the 'God Killer' that was deliberately made as a sham.
are you saying that the God Killer sword is normal? if yes, it sliced through metal like butter.
it may or may not slice doomsday. but we can assume either of those
That scene still bugs me. Those rifles have to be enchanted. Not because of some dumb "ooh Hela spikes feats" showings, but simply because there's no way they wouldn't run out of ammo after the first few seconds of auto-fire. I get that it's just a cool scene that's supposed to pay homage to Simonson's Executioner, and we are talking about superhero movies so realism goes out the window most times, but still.
I don't know. I have a hard time seeing why an Asgardian with access to all of the more powerful things they possess cares about two guns from Texas. Asgardians were shown to have projectile weapons on those ships though. There's no evidence to suggest they were magic though, its a pretty bad inconsistency. Truthfully... its probably proof Asgardians aren't bullet proof. Normal guns couldn't shoot as much as he did, they wouldn't have the firepower or capacity ... but movies never use logic with guns.
Well going from the joke explaining them there's no reason to think they're not normal M16s. I chalk up the ability to destroy Hela' s spikes to the logic in the most disappointing movie since spiderman 3.
Him getting supercharged with enough energy to give Hulk some supershots wasn't enough to at least short circuit these disks, you think?
I think that when fiction goes way beyond our own reality or planet, always tries to say to the spectator that some of the rules that he used to are not applied anymore (reality, technology or even life evolution), that always was the primordial appeal of space or mystical movies... They would lose most of the interest if they always follow all our known patterns.
I don't see how Grandmaster could use something that was not incredibly durable to keep people (that was special because of their power) under control. And i can easily accept that he had the necessity, resources and knowledge to develop such device.
Well, we disagree here. I think they were just lazy and not bothering. Speculation on my part, but I'm sure they added the visible effect on veins only when they were late into post production with someone observable adding "isn't he supposed to be the god of thunder? and him getting electrocuted like this?". Why do I think so? Well because it had all the effects of being electrocuted. Even the sound effect was mimicking that.
There were multiple other options for obedience disks to function (depowerment/powers control, losing consciousness, mind control, etc) , but nothing would be as hilarious as Thor getting zapped, yay! I think that's exactly what they thought.
Well, i believe they tried to stay "loyal" to the Planet Hulk arc from the comics, but i have to agree on the notion that since they were using Thor The God of Thunder, they could should developed more the obedience disk work concept, and like you said it was not that hard...
I dont know about the bullets, but remembering the scene...those seem to be 30 round magazines, and he shot waaay more without reloading, so he is clearly done something with those M16'S
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