Seriously, do Bendis and Johns have to write so many books?!

It seems like every few weeks there's a new announcement about one of these two writing a new comic. Come to think of it, there really is like ten writers in both companies who write everything.

How about some new blood, eh?

Johns actually redeemed himself to me with Aquaman 1. I don't mind letting continue writing so much. Bendis needs...ummm a "creative" break.

What's everyone's problem with Johns? Didn't he do a good job with GL? What else has he done...?

I will never respect Johns because he called for the return of Barry Allen, which invariably has now erased Wally West from comics.

And Hal Jordan sucks, too.

Johns has talent, he just misuses it sometimes. Bendis on the other hand needs to die slowly.

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

That's actually a petty good reason. But it makes sense for what DC wants to do. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it.

@ReVamp: I didn't say I didn't understand it but that doesn't make me any less pissed about it

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: I didn't say I didn't understand it but that doesn't make me any less pissed about it

True dat

@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

That's actually a petty good reason. But it makes sense for what DC wants to do. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it.

On top of that, he has erased and retconned a LOT of history in order to basically bring back the Silver age. Hence the term Geoffcon.

@The Dark Huntress said:

@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

That's actually a petty good reason. But it makes sense for what DC wants to do. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it.

On top of that, he has erased and retconned a LOT of history in order to basically bring back the Silver age. Hence the term Geoffcon.

So wait... You're puuting the DC Reboot on him?

OK, whatever floats your boat I guess :P

I'm a fan of Geoff, admittedly... but the term 'so many' books... Geoff is writing three right now. The same as a host of other writers.

And they put out as many of his books as possible because there are fans that enjoy them and they typically have sold well.

@ReVamp said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

That's actually a petty good reason. But it makes sense for what DC wants to do. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it.

On top of that, he has erased and retconned a LOT of history in order to basically bring back the Silver age. Hence the term Geoffcon.

So wait... You're puuting the DC Reboot on him?

OK, whatever floats your boat I guess :P

No, I'm talking before the reboot even started, he was doing this.

More about it here.

And for what it's worth, I actually like Johns. The only thing he's done that seriously rubs me the wrong way is Barry.

@ReVamp: I do admit Johns is a good writer though, unlike Bendis who is a worthless hack that got lucky

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: I do admit Johns is a good writer though, unlike Bendis who is a worthless hack that got lucky

Bendis has great dialogue.

That wasn't a good thing.

@The Dark Huntress said:

@ReVamp said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: He tossed Wally into comic limbo

That's actually a petty good reason. But it makes sense for what DC wants to do. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it.

On top of that, he has erased and retconned a LOT of history in order to basically bring back the Silver age. Hence the term Geoffcon.

So wait... You're puuting the DC Reboot on him?

OK, whatever floats your boat I guess :P

No, I'm talking before the reboot even started, he was doing this.

More about it here.

And for what it's worth, I actually like Johns. The only thing he's done that seriously rubs me the wrong way is Barry.

Read the blog. It was well written, though I know it wasn't yours.

I don't see much of a problem, I acutally kinda dig the whole old school vibe. If I were to be honest though, I really think that bringing Barry back was good, its just that it sucked for Wally to have to go missing. I still am hoping for my Outsiders team with Wally, PG, Donna and obviously, Dick. :P

@ReVamp: Great dialog in a sh*tty story doesn't help much

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: Great dialog in a sh*tty story doesn't help much

Thus why i said it wasn't a good thing.

This is my thing regarding Barry Allen: what did it accomplish, really? Did The Flash comics improved with the character's return? Not really. Was Flashpoint an amazing Barry Allen arc? No. Is DC a better place with Barry Allen? No.

Anything Barry Allen has done since his return could have been done by Wally West the character. Wally, in my opinion, surpassed Barry as a character. An entire generation grew up with Wally West as The Flash. He was even The Flash in the JLU cartoon!

And Bendis isn't so bad when he's in his element. Alias was fantastic as was Ultimate Spider-Man but his writing in the mainstream Marvel universe just muddles things up. His Avengers characters just seem to banter for entire issues and then by the last page, they start superhero-ing.

I really don't care who's the Flash...I never read the book until Bart became Flash and that was terrible and then Barry came back....if I were to blame Wally's absence on anyone then it would be Dan Didio...everything that Geoff Johns does has to go through him and there's absolutely no reason that Wally couldn't have been handed off to another writer

I also don't see any of Johns' GL run as a retcon...he made the GL books interesting again and explained why someone like Barry would just out of the blue go crazy...the whole Parallax thing never made any sense anyway....everyone was just so quick to assume that Barry went nuts without ever trying to do anything to help him....he didn't get rid of anything...just added to the story and good writers should be able to work with what writers before them have done without messing it up and that's what Johns did

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

THIS!

@danhimself said:

I really don't care who's the Flash...I never read the book until Bart became Flash and that was terrible and then Barry came back....if I were to blame Wally's absence on anyone then it would be Dan Didio...everything that Geoff Johns does has to go through him and there's absolutely no reason that Wally couldn't have been handed off to another writer

I also don't see any of Johns' GL run as a retcon...he made the GL books interesting again and explained why someone like Barry would just out of the blue go crazy...the whole Parallax thing never made any sense anyway....everyone was just so quick to assume that Barry went nuts without ever trying to do anything to help him....he didn't get rid of anything...just added to the story and good writers should be able to work with what writers before them have done without messing it up and that's what Johns did

you mean Hal and i completely agree with all the GL related stuff.

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

@Morpheus_ said:

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

And PAD.

And Whedon.

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@danhimself said:

I really don't care who's the Flash...I never read the book until Bart became Flash and that was terrible and then Barry came back....if I were to blame Wally's absence on anyone then it would be Dan Didio...everything that Geoff Johns does has to go through him and there's absolutely no reason that Wally couldn't have been handed off to another writer

I also don't see any of Johns' GL run as a retcon...he made the GL books interesting again and explained why someone like Barry would just out of the blue go crazy...the whole Parallax thing never made any sense anyway....everyone was just so quick to assume that Barry went nuts without ever trying to do anything to help him....he didn't get rid of anything...just added to the story and good writers should be able to work with what writers before them have done without messing it up and that's what Johns did

you mean Hal and i completely agree with all the GL related stuff.

yeah....my head isn't working right today lol

Well Johns is writing only 3 books now, and Scott Snyder is writing 4 titles at the moment, 3 ongoings and a mini-series and he just finished another mini-series last week he has more on his plate than Johns. Besides the thing with Johns is that he is a good storyteller, take away any problems you have with some of his characterizations he can come up with interesting story's. My problem with Johns is that he isn't writing storys with characters I care about, I want him to write Justice Society of America again because he pays homage to the previous generation of heroes very well there or I want him to write Flash with Wally as the Flash, the reason is because I know more about Wally from the JL cartoon that I watched when I was a kid, I find Barry kinda boring and I love The Rogues. So really it all comes down to preference.

As for Bendis, well the only thing Im reading from him is Moon Knight and my biggest problem with that is how slow it is but as im trying to understand that. But I really want to read Powers since I like cop and murder & mystery storys. Honestly this whole hate on Bendis just means you don't like his writing and you should avoid him. Yes I understand he's like writing 7 books right now but it's not like Marvel doesn't have other comics to read.

Johns is only writing 3 books, its not that many tbh

Johns is actually good, so him I can tolerate(plus, he's writing 3 books people, that's not exactly a lot). Bendis just.. needs to fall in a hole and never climb out. Heck, throw Quesada in with him.

@Morpheus_ said:

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

And PAD.

And Whedon.

@Morpheus_ said:

@The Dark Huntress said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

And PAD.

And Whedon.

Has Whedon done anything for Marvel post AXM, though? I was thinking of creators that are still active within the company.

<__< no, but that doesn't make me fangirl any less.

Sticking on the still active (at least semi) note, I'd say Kyle/Yost.

@Morpheus_: I may need to pick that up...

@ZombieBigfoot said:

Johns is actually good, so him I can tolerate(plus, he's writing 3 books people, that's not exactly a lot). Bendis just.. needs to fall in a hole and never climb out. Heck, throw Quesada in with him.

This!

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

this.

Bendis should stop writing Superhero teams and events, he can stay with the New Avenger, but he needs to leave the rest of them, he is good with Street Level characters...

@Morpheus_ said:

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel needs more Dan Slott.

And PAD.

Marvel needs more Warren Ellis, Hickman, Peter Milligan, Rick Remender, Brian K.Waughan, Kieron Guillen, Robert Rodi and Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa (I am pretty sure that you don't know who Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa is), seriously the best stories that I have read are about these writers and they rarely write something, that is depressing... TT_TT

the real problem is Dan Didiot. He's the bane of all evil if you ask me.

@Amegashita said:

the real problem is Dan Didiot. He's the bane of all evil if you ask me.

wouldn't that make him good?

Johns has talent, he just misuses it sometimes. Bendis on the other hand needs to die slowly.

@War Killer: Don't forget his other Avengers title, Avenger-Knight. Or.... um.... huh. I think he used to have another name and a far more interesting personality.

Sobs while slamming head into wall violently.

@Morpheus_ said:

@The Dark Huntress: Yost will be writing the new Scarlet Spider book. No idea what Kyle is up to these days.

I can't freaking wait for that.

Johns is only writing 3 books and they are taking their merry good time to put out JL. The better question is why are guys like Scott Lobdell, Adam Glass and Tony Daniel aloud near a pen and paper.

@War Killer: >_> Moon Knight? Oh, that guy was a total badass. Too bad he died sometime during Shadowland. ... <____< I don't know what you're talking about. He's totally dead.

True. I was surprised by how good USM was compared to his other stuff.

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Johns has talent, he just misuses it sometimes. Bendis on the other hand needs to die slowly.

No he doesn`t, he writes heroic characters and I like him...
@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: Great dialog in a sh*tty story doesn't help much

Thus why i said it wasn't a good thing.

... I like Bendis... ;_;

@InnerVenom123 said:

@War Killer: >_> Moon Knight? Oh, that guy was a total badass. Too bad he died sometime during Shadowland. ... <____< I don't know what you're talking about. He's totally dead.

True. I was surprised by how good USM was compared to his other stuff.

His Daredevil is awesome too, and Powers is also awesoem stuff, actually most of the things that he writes outside his teams seem to be decent or good, sometimes awesome, I like his stuff, and I have never read something that bad with him as writer, Siege was actually decent, unlike Loeb's Ultimatum, I can't see why the people hate him THAT MUCH, some want to kill him..

@Deadcool: I was referring to the things at Marvel he is writing right now. So his Daredevil (already long gone, and now DD has the amazing Mark Waid writing), and Powers (that's his own thing) don't count. His teams are pretty bad. He ignores continuity. He writes everyone with the same dialogue. There's just a huge list of things wrong.

@Avenging-X-Bolt: Hmm, wrong turn of phrase. How bout this then, he's the origin of all evil. At least within DC comics that is.

@InnerVenom123 said:

I was referring to the things at Marvel he is writing right now. So his Daredevil (already long gone, and now DD has the amazing Mark Waid writing), and Powers (that's his own thing) don't count.

Oh well...

1. His teams are pretty bad.
2. He ignores continuity.
3. He writes everyone with the same dialogue.
4. There's just a huge list of things wrong.

1. Oh yeahn he needs to stop writting teams ( he can keept the New avengers, Bendis is pretty good with street level stuff)...
2. I have never cared about continuity (I think that I was the only one that was with G-man in this article), I just enjoy the issue by itself, I skip issues, I just buy the issues that I really want to have without caring what happened the issue before that...
3. I actually find them funny, but it seems that is just a personal taste...
4. Yeah, but there is a lot of them are perfect, his street level characters, his dialogues/narration in serious tittles, and people in CV uses scans about his comicbooks all the time, he is not perfect, but he is not bad...

@Deadcool said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Johns has talent, he just misuses it sometimes. Bendis on the other hand needs to die slowly.

No he doesn`t, he writes heroic characters and I like him...

of course he writes heroic character, theyre *dramatic pause......... SUPERHEROES!!!!!!!!!! Making them heroic is the bare minimum and Bendis barely does that. I resect the fact that you like him but the fact of the matter is he is still doing terrible work right now.

@ReVamp said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ReVamp: Great dialog in a sh*tty story doesn't help much

Thus why i said it wasn't a good thing.

... I like Bendis... ;_;

@InnerVenom123 said:

@War Killer: >_> Moon Knight? Oh, that guy was a total badass. Too bad he died sometime during Shadowland. ... <____< I don't know what you're talking about. He's totally dead.

True. I was surprised by how good USM was compared to his other stuff.

His Daredevil is awesome too, and Powers is also awesoem stuff, actually most of the things that he writes outside his teams seem to be decent or good, sometimes awesome, I like his stuff, and I have never read something that bad with him as writer, Siege was actually decent, unlike Loeb's Ultimatum, I can't see why the people hate him THAT MUCH, some want to kill him..

@Deadcool: I was referring to the things at Marvel he is writing right now. So his Daredevil (already long gone, and now DD has the amazing Mark Waid writing), and Powers (that's his own thing) don't count. His teams are pretty bad. He ignores continuity. He writes everyone with the same dialogue. There's just a huge list of things wrong.