Yhwach vs justice leagues

Missmatch.

@alextheboss: oh ok, then no i didn't make the video.

@b_r023: you can't scale, use head canon, use logical fallacies, constantly downplay, can't even spell the names of the characters you're downplaying, and think that because it's in the shape of an arrow that it's automatically the speed of a wooden arrow, but you think you can even be taken serious? xD give me a break.

@b_r023: but I've already told you that I don't want to start a flame war, which you desperately seem to want to do. So please leave this thread if you are just gonna throw around insults and troll.

No. Yhwach loses.

yhwach stomps with the almighty + zanka no tachi + sklaverai + reishi manipulation + soul king power + tk + power stealing etc

@hypebeastcsb15: Yet you still can't provide proof as to why Yhwach could not dodge arrow. You keep screaming plot, plot. You make mismatches intentionally with hopes of starting flame wars, you try to incite fights by throwing insults, call people trolls, childish, trash etc. Yep, you are trying to start a flame war.

League stompooos

Lolz

If you forget that Yhwach is a bleach character for a second and take a look at his arsenal you'd see how this isn't a mismatch at all.

• Almighty which let's him
  • See a multitude of futures.
  • Effectively change the future.
  • Nullify abilities he sees in the future.
  • Become immune to abilities he sees in the future.
  • Change to another future where he hasn't died if he dies.
  • Overpower other power nullifying abilities.
  • Attack from the future.
• X-Axis which let's him
  • Become permanently intangible
  • Fire city ranged attacks that ignore durability.
  • Have immortality.
• Miracle which let's him
  • Get stronger every time he's hurt.
  • Overpower nullifying abilities.
  • Have immortality.
• Visionary Let's him
  • Warp reality.
• Death Dealing let's him
  • Become immune to any energy attack that affects him.
  • Makes any substance he wants lethal to an opponent like blood or even air.
• The "Yourself" which let's him
  • Completely copy anyone's abilities and powers
  • Completely copy their personality, memories and mind.
• Balance which let's him
  • Nullify powers/abilities.
  • Effectively tip the scale of the battle to his advantage in a multitude of ways
• The fear which let's him
  • Make anyone doubt everything, lose control of all rational thought, and see visions of their deepest fears even if your willpower is massive.
• Yammamotos bankai which let's him
  • Use the heat of the suns core (15,000,000 degrees Celsius)
  • Attack with 15,000,000 degree heat
  • Cover his body with 15,000,000 degree heat to protect himself.
• Dimensional shifting and portal which let's him
  • Easily travel through dimensions.

The league doesn't really have a way to put him down especially without prep he has 3 different sets of immortality, 2 different sets of power nullification, power immunity, 2 sets of powers that can't get nullified, intangibility, attacks that ignore durability ect.

He can simply just look into the future see who's the biggest threat then copy their power and abilities then see who's the smartest and copy their mind and memories.

Yhwach wins.

Yhwach Dies Horribly

@b_r023: ok fine. From here on out I will not throw insults at you. But i did give you proof and you also can't debunk bleach hub's video. Until you do that your answer holds no validity.

But that's enough out of me since I'm not allowed to debate in my own threads.

@gilateen: read the post above

Last time commenting unless it's about the conditions or if I'm asking for an explanation

Why is still open, JLA have their way

Flash solos and kills him in one second

@leothegreatest: Not to mention how dangerous a the "visionary" and the "yourself" combo would be. He could create clones of himself for every justice league member and then copy their abilities and memories. He could copy batman's memories to find out all of the justice leagues weaknesses, counters, and his plans for beating them, and then use the "visionary" enact them. he is crazy broken

I honestly don't see how the JL is going to take this.

The Almighty is basically hell for the JL to face...then you gave yhwach all of the sternritter powers...X Axis will ignore durability, Miracle makes everything yhwach is hit with irrelavent, Askin's power allows him to kill anyone with what's already in their bodies and Gremmy's visionary lets him high tier reality warp+create clones of himself to amp his own power.

I mean even if Dr Fate showed up, Yhwach could make magic poison to him and force Dr Fate to remove the helmet or die...

Yhwach with these conditions would be better suited to fight Molecule Man or another high tier reality warper...though the precog and future manipulation would still be a total pita for those kinds of characters to deal with.

And no, Flash isn't doing squat here, Yhwach will know everything he does before he does it and can outroght counter it via the future...I mean what happens when Yhwach makes the speedforce poison to Flash because he knows rhat would remove Flash from the fight entirely?

Batman solos

@kingogkings777: Naw, Yhwach is Supernatural...Batman can't prep for things beyond his comorehension.

Constantine with prep might have a chance...but he's JL Dark, not JL.

Yhwach sees an infinite amount of futures where he gets roflstomped.

@marishtar: explain please

Explain how yhwach isn't getting blitzed please

Batman solos Bleach, DBZ, Naruto, One Piece, One Punch Man, Marvel, and all of DC.

That's also a possibility lmao.

Extremely

@eobard21: 8,000 times ftl + almighty precog?

@hypebeastcsb15: I'd love to see proof for 8,000 times the speed of light. Like really love it.

@man_of_miracles: Doesn't exist, it's pure wank...best Yhwach will have for movement speed is the 1000ri feat. Reaction time is significantly higher, however.

@man_of_miracles: @diydeath: I don't have proof of Yhwach being that fast?

Liltotto dodging aushwalen

Proof the aushwalen is light

proof lille's beams are light

Half dead shunsui dodging lille's light beams

now that I've proven that liltotto and half dead shunsui have lightspeed feats, here is ichigo countering a blitz from liltotto

so Ichigo at bare minimum is light speed in shikai. being that Ichigo is light speed, it's calced that the distance between the soul society and the royal palace is 8,047,399,548 miles since it took him 12 hours going at his top speed, which i downplayed to base light speed, to get from the royal realm to the soul society

and low-balling the mimihagi took 5 seconds to get from the royale palace to the soul society, considering it took one panel for the mimihagi to arrive.

Which means that the mimihagi moved at the speed of 5,794,127,674,560 mph which is.............

times the speed of light.

Just to get blitzed by Yhwach.

So Yhwach low-balled is 8.6xftl. proven by feats, scaling, and calculations. Who doesn't have proof again?

@hypebeastcsb15: Considering you started from completely incorrect base speeds the whole calc can be completely thrown out the window.

Not to mention you compare Ichigos speed to people we can't possibly scale him to. Also not to mention even if you were correct about him being LS (You aren't) why would you possibly believe he can move at top speed for 12 hours straight?

Honestly that might be the worst attempt at a calc I've ever seen. Considering the insanely faulty base and the numerous issues with scaling no one should give it more than a passing thought.

I am inclined to say that Ywach will all schrifts is really too haxed for JL to handle. I can see only MMH having any chances here. Even then Ywach can use Yama's flame to hard counter him.

And for people who says flash blitz, let me ask you what he's gonna do with blitzing he isn't damaging Ywach here. And once Ywach get blitz, Ywach can simply go airbourne, or cover himself in flames Flash is non-factor here, so stop acting like he can make any difference here.

@great_black_star: lol. Flash hits harder then anything Yhwach has ever tanked. Him or his "immortals" he absorbed. Flash's top hits have the power of a supernova (IMP) which is roughly 10 octillion megatons. Enough to blow away half a solar system. Good luck trying to prove Yhwach can tank a single hit like that. His precognition doesnt matter either. Flash can react and attack in attoseconds. Yhwach will not have time to look into any future or decide which to keep or any of that. He will get blown to million pieces before a single thought is conceived in his skull.

By the way, Flash is not the only one who can decisively solo this. Though like I said b4 Yhwach would kill a lot of JLA members, he still cant be compared to its best.

Yhwach can most likely 1v1 most of jla due to his resurrection, before which speed is irrelevant. Once he dies, he resurrects and haxes to oblivion.

Also, Bleach's speed is indeed underestimated.

If the op states he has SR abilities, i dont see how this isnt spite in Yhwach's favor.

The Justice Leagues curbstomb incredibly hard.

How often does flash hits with the power of supernova? He has been tag and beaten by far slower and weaker people on regular basis.

In character or consistent flash's hit isn't doing anything here, Ywach will get stronger the more you hit him. That is his ha

How are the base speeds wrong. and i can't scale ichigo to liltotto? he literally grabbed her and threw her into a building whilst she was blitzing him. I've already proved she is ftl. until you give a reason as to why the base speed is wrong, your counterargument has no ground to stand on. Right now you've given no proof and have dropped 0 scans to debunk me. And we know he went the whole 12 hours at top speed without stopping, because he says it

So again i have provided scans and an explanation to why shikai ichigo is light speed at the very least, and scans saying he went the whole 12 hours at top speed without a break. So not only did you provide no reasoning or scans to counter my calc, but i even provided scans debunking your baseless counter argument.

Yhwach hax stomps

@morbusgrav: I said you have to explain your reasoning. At least say why they stomp, like does he get blitzed or are they too strong and could overpower him and his hax, or something.

That calc was fugly

@faradaysloth: Prove it was.

@hypebeastcsb15:

-Basing it all on an outlier...?

-Mimihagi is relativistic because it crossed a distance in seconds where the base speed of sound would take a week.

-Not proving it was natural light

Gotta try better next time Gilateen.

@faradaysloth:

-It isn't an outlier if it's consistent https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/bleach-speed-of-light-feats-1759181/

-that's your own head canon. flash step varies by user and isn't the speed of sound. and saying it takes sound a week to travel from the royale realm to the soul society means that there's only a distance of 127,774 miles between the ss and rr. Ichigo taking 12 hours to travel that means he is only 10647.8 mph, when he was a lightning time in the bankai back in the soul society. So you're telling me that ichigo in his true shikai in the war arc is slower than bankai in the soul society arc? And i can't calc? xD

-The scan says that the aushwalen isn't a transfer reishi, but a transfer of powers. then Hashwalth states that the tree of life cannot defend against it because, the tree of life absorbs reishi; and it is light, not reishi. byakuya even refers to it as light. it's a major part of the lore, and it's sad that a self proclaimed "bleach debater" doesn't even know things from the manga he's debating for.

- and i am not gilateen. he's a known bleach downplayer, and i'm over here saying that bleach is multi planetary and mftl. So even when researching users you do it terribly.

try again

JL curbs.

@hypebeastcsb15:

-Then why is Bleach consistently placed at MHS-MHS+? And none of that is natural light (however Lille can be debated for that.)

-Shunpo=Hirenyaku=Sonido (translated into "sound" in English) Of course each shunpo user moves at different speeds, however normalshunpo is base mach. I mean you're comparing travel speeds with reaction speeds, anyway I saw and somewhat agreed this calc portraying Ichigo's speed in your feat. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/yhwach-speed-calc-1866172/ Not the original post but #24. Another reason is that Ichigo probably wasn't even trying to rush, he was taking his sweet ass time probably.

-Not natural light, prove that it was, and yes I'm a way better Bleach debater than you, I don't wank our series to Planetary+ and MFTL++ levels.

-Gilateen stop it.

Srsly the Bleach wank has gone too far yet Bleachtards bitch about "Bleach lowball"? Lmfao at least Narutards don't make retarded shit like this

Cyborg BFRs for the win, otherwise it just gets random

Kubo keeps doing his tricks you think someone is about to win than the other person pulls out there Trump card rinse and repeat like 5 times. Than we learn they've both been holding back and 8 chapters later its time to get really serious

@leothegreatest: goddammn dude, you just won't stop wanking Bleach, do you?

Look, calm your tits & stop smoking weed

@faradaysloth: https://discord.gg/Zrqk5sg

@amberprice: Don’t bring weed into this. Weed doesn’t cause this type of wank, crack does ?