(Thing, Immortal Hulk, Current She-Hulk )
(Juggernaut, Hercules, Colossusnaut)
- Win By Death, KO or Incap
- No BFR
- Morals Off
- Local: Indestructible Planet
I have no idea why people rate Colossonaut so high, i mean did he even do anything impressive? He was weaker in every way to Juggernaut who only had the power of the Worthy, he was dead even with Red Hulk until he used his demonic form and after he stripped it away he got KO'd, he didn't do that great against Ben and Rulk on another occasion either. So once again what has he done that makes him impressive at all?
As for the real Juggernaut himself, well we saw how his fight with Immortal Hulk went
Hulk was beating the breaks of him it wasn't even a fair fight or a decent back and forth between them to the point that D-cell and Damage Control had to intervene and slow Hulks momentum and siphon his gamma away to give Cain a chance of taking him out.
Hercules is good but the best he can do is stalemate anyone on team 1, before i would say he could beat Ben but now i am not so sure, it seems to be a 50/50 between the 2 with the feats Ben has been getting like surviving a beating longer and better than any other character so far against IH, tanking a blast from Galactus that could split the mantle of the Earth, tanking a punch that sent him flying across a city from a character that has the power to tear apart planets and stars, tanking a beating from an unrestrained Cotati posessed She-Hulk who was literally trying to kill him, etc.. The guy is among one of the most impressive tanks/damage soak characters without a healing i have seen.
Immortal Hulk is the strongest one here, followed by probably Jen who is a very close second to him(if not possibly dead even) with decent energy projections, she has been shown to be superior to Thor in Avengers on a few occasions, has done better against Immortal Hulk and Hydroman Namor than any other Avenger, manhandled both Perun and Chernobog who were giving trouble to guys like Thor and Namor, could go toe to toe with Cosmic Ghost Rider and Terrax and tanked an attack from Starbrand who burned entire planets better than Gladiator did.
So with all that said i have no idea how team 2 could win unless we were to use the classic version of Juggernaut and even then it would likely end in a stalemate between Juggernaut and IH as the last standing.
@wrightbearer: Unfortunately for him that wasn't true in practice. Rulk was fairly even with regular Colossonaut until he went into his demonic form, beat Rulk up until he realized he was about to destroy the support pillars reverted to his normal self and then had Rulk beat him up into a KO. He also was inferior to Kuurth in every way, even had his skull and other bones crack getting hit by him, the only advantage he had was being unstoppable so he was able to push him around.
@wrightbearer: The regular Colossunaut that i was referring to is the one not going into his demonic form, you know very well what i meant dont be dense. He was going for a couple of pages against Rulk in his Colossonaut form before getting enraged and going into the "demonic" form.
I dunno why you are telling me any of this either when i know it all and i agree with you on most things, instead of going at people saying Ben gets turned to dust just by being near this people, but priorities i guess.
It was a good showing to you, it wasn't a good showing to me, so we can agree to disagree on that.
The thing is Cain still had forms and stories where he preformed far better than Colossonaut ever did, which is why i don't believe the implications.
@steepardy: He has and he will. He did great against Colossusnaut (who was given more power than Cain) and has a win over an amped juggs in the past. (By the way, the reason the Thing was getting wrecked in the beginning because he was expecting to completely tank Juggies punches because he thought he was amped, hence the “Hey! That hurt!”) . Obviously Juggy would beat Grimm, but no way Grimm’s not going down without a fight.
Actually, after reading @underfire47 ‘s post, Imma change my vote to team Thing.
@knutcracker: Where do you got the idea that he doesn't have the gem anymore? He still has the gem, he even mentioned it in the last issue. Maybe you meant he severed the connection between the gem and Cyttorak, which resulted in him being able to use the power of the Juggernaut without being controlled by Cyttorak anymore.
I am not sure what Colossonaut has done that makes him so impressive that he would lay out Jen and Ben so easily, i dunno if you are aware but Jen has been amped by a Celestial recently to the point where she is around IH level in physicals with added energy projection which allowed her to go toe to toe with IH, several heralds, punch through Celestials armor, tank fire from Starbrand that burnt entire planets, survived Ymirs blood and even saved Thors life from it and Ben in the last year or so has tanked a beating from IH for about 90 min, has tanked a blast from Galactus that can split the mantle of Earth, tanked an attack from a character that in the same comic was mentioned to have the power to tear apart planets and stars and tanked a beating from the current amped She-Hulk who was possessed by Cotati trying to kill Ben.
So neither of them are going down easily.
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