RULES:
- All are in Character
- Hikone starts in Resurreccion
- Obito is stable
- Standard Gear
- Reiatsu = Chakra
@ultimatesage: obviously you haven't read the novels yet you gave an absolute dog water take.
@noobofnoobs: top tier rebuttal 👌
Have a cookie 🍪
@ultimatesage: simply calling it what it is, a dog water take. Why say anything else when your take shows your ignorance?. You, my friend, deserve the d hat. Don't bother replying, thanks.
@ultimatesage: simply calling it what it is, a dog water take.
lmao because your takes are superior right? Again, top tier rebuttal kiddo, you deserve all the cookies 🍪
Why say anything else when your take shows your ignorance?.
And that's a big a*s opinion on yourself then you realize??
You, my friend, deserve a tin foil hat.
why so butthurt tho?
Don't bother replying, thanks.
don't tag me in the first place then tf lol
@noobofnoobs: top tier rebuttal 👌
Have a cookie 🍪
If you read this in Rick May's voice , it actually makes sense.
The problem is author's contradictions, it was previously stated that Obito cannot use Kamui because he is JJ, but Madara being JJ was able to use Kamui when he took Kakashi's eye. Therefore, such phenomena in the manga are introduced into a stupor.
@dracoz: As part of the Shinju/Juubi he can cast Mugen Tsukuyomi with a glance. This was confirmed when old-man Madara casted MT on young Obito, due to him being connected with the Gedo Statue(Juubi husk)-Shinju.
The only reason why he couldn't use Kamui at that time is cuz he was still learning to perfectly control his powers. Juudara insta-learned how to use it so, in other ways, with a bit of time Juubito would have learnt how to use it aswell.
@undre: Sorry but why are you using VSBattle stuff for Hikone's AP... but avoid the part related to his speed being LS only to wank him at FTL?
If Inner Energy is the only thing that matters for Hikone boya... then Juubito scales massively above 2nd Incomplete Form Juubi, who Inner Power was comparable to a planet (and Naruto's Planet is more than twice the size of our Planet Earth). Considering the massive boost Juubi got when it turned into 2nd Complete and 3rd Muscle Form... and by adding the power boost Obito got by turning into the Juubi Jin... you have him at Large Planet lvl aswell, and easily.
Not interested in this thread but that stuff had to be adressed.
@miriotogata: ok, makes sense
thanks!
@miriotogata said:@undre: "Sorry but why are you using VSBattle stuff for Hikone's AP... but avoid the part related to his speed being LS only to wank him at FTL?
If Inner Energy is the only thing that matters for Hikone boya... then Juubito scales massively above 2nd Incomplete Form Juubi, who Inner Power was comparable to a planet (and Naruto's Planet is more than twice the size of our Planet Earth). Considering the massive boost Juubi got when it turned into 2nd Complete and 3rd Muscle Form... and by adding the power boost Obito got by turning into the Juubi Jin... you have him at Large Planet lvl aswell, and easily.
Not interested in this thread but that stuff had to be adressed."
The naruto planet is earth size. This is equal to me saying the ss is infinite size because of the muken and hm being stated as endless.
The juubis entire reserves is small planet. While Hikones passive energy is large planet. Take yhwach for example passively keeps the worlds up even while asleep
where do the ones from bleach scale too in terms of AP
Tokinada has comparable Reaitsu to Yorouchi/Byakuya so at around Country Level, if he had bankai then he would be able to match EOS Byakuya Top power which is equal to Adult Toshiro and Bankai Kenpachi during the fight with Gerard.
the problem with Tokinada is that his Zanpakuto side effects are quite drastic and Hikone while strong has not really reach top level yet, Ikimidomoe was rival of Barragan which is Hikone current Zanpakuto who is pretty strong able to match Release Grimmjow, Halibel and Neliel while at around 10-20% power.
both of the Shinigami can easily slap Obito in terms of Close combat this would be akin to bringing up 8th gate guy and make him fight Obito however obito does not fight like this and unless he does something stupid like Madara he might be able to live, however he cant rely of Physical Regeneration as he would have his soul injured and destroyed by Hikone, so the less he gets hit the better, if this was 1vs1 then Obito has a shot however 2vs1 is above his paygrade.
Tokinada is complete fodder here.
Hikone isn't even shikai Kenny level. Juubito would beat Bankai Kenny so...
Juubito low difficulty at worst.
The naruto planet is earth size.
Not at all. Naruto Planet is more than twice the size of our planet Earth.
This is taken from the canon novel Gaara Hiden, part of the New Era Project (ch.699 to 700).
So, what do we have?
Note: Camels can survive weeks without water and months without food.
I can now make a single assumption based on the passage, that being their speed. We know their stamina can allow them to last for "a thousand miles" (Since this was translated from Japanese, the raws most likely say “a thousand kilometers” but this doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things) without taking a break
This statement isn't contradicted by anything within the story AND it is actually backed up by information told to us by Kishimoto in an interview, meaning that it is doubly confirmed by the primary author of the work himself:
"It would actually take too long to really go nitty-gritty into details, but for example one of the things I focused on was that anything that's NOT possible to recreate, or to do, using ninjutsu, ninja skills, I would not develop for Naruto's world. So no cars. Because they have shuriken, the throwing stars, there are no guns either. So there were certain things I had clearly in my head that I didn't want to have available in their worldview."
This will be a pretty straight forward calculation, but I will bring in some background information.
Gaara has been taken away while Kankuro has been poisoned and Naruto & Co. have around three days to get from Konoha to Sunagakure. There are a few three-day statements referring to the time it takes for shinobi to get to Suna from Konoha and vice versa.
Here are others:
What can we surmise from this?
Simple. We know that on average, the time it takes for shinobi to travel from Suna to Konoha and vice versa is 3 days or 72 hours. Factor in the statements above given to us by the novel and supported by Kishimoto himself, we can get a distance between Konoha and Suna on average. In Naruto and Co's situation, it took them only 2.5 days, however, they were in a hurry and even Kakashi said it would take around three days so it's likely they just moved faster than usual that and plot convenience since Kankuro only had 3 days to live from the time Naruto and Co set off.
Applying the quotes above in general terms, I will be using 72 hours as the travel time for the average shinobi. No assumptions here.
Take into consideration the quote from the Gaar Hiden Novel above that explains how trains and the like are merely situationally used as shinobi are better off on their feet; the part about their "thousand kilometers" stamina; and their "tenacious like a camel" statement.
Average racehorses can run upwards to around 40 to 44 mph which translates to 64 to 70 km/h, with a maximum speed of 88 km/h.
Even then, he does state trains and the like are just situational modes of transportation so its likely that Shinobi are much faster (have you seen how fast modern steam trains can go? And yes, their technology is comparable to ours and even far greater in some respects).
We already know the timeframe: 3 days or 72 hours.
Some simple math with a lowballed speed:
In other words:
I tried to reach a similar distance in Km. by using our real world.
It would be around the same distance between Miami and Northern Rockies
*Distance as the crow flies* = 5052km.
In the Novel "Naruto Retsuden" there's also another important factor that hints how massive Naruto Planet is.
It is said to take the average Shinobi 30 days to transverse locations between the Leaf and Redaku.
Use the same calculation method used to find out the distance between Konoha and Suna... and you'll find out Naruto Planet is more than twice the size of our planet.
... In addition:
bruh using vsbattles yikes
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