Entire U.S Army vs 1945 World War 2 Armies

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the entire modern U.S Army vs The WW2 american, soviet, and German armies

The entire military force expect no nuclear weapons

no air support

WW2 armies are at their peak

the war shall take place on U.S soil with the modern u.s army in the north and the the ww2 armies in the south

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i would think the current u.s army

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Modern US Stomps due to better equipment, training and UAV's.

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Moder us army would dominate the armies of world war 2

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75 year difference. Modern Britain would stomp much less US.

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Idk we might be too out numbered but like everyone has said we have better equipment

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#8  Edited By Wut

Lol... Hahaha... HA.

Maybe they could stop the modern tanks by clogging up their treads with their corpses, but I doubt it.

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An Abrams battalion would solo if they had enough ammo. Nothing in the WWII era could stop one.

Plus, the US Army has studied the tactics and battle plans of previous wars. Especially our own. Have have a technological and informational advantage, not to mention better training...derived not just from lessons learned in WWII but Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1 & 2, Afghanistan, Grenada, Panama...

See where I'm going with this?

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#10  Edited By alcoholbob

There is no substitute for numbers. The U.S. Army couldn't stop starving Chinese peasants many of whom weren't even armed in Korea with overwhelming air support.

The supply lines of the modern U.S. Army will quickly be cut off. You are talking about what, 30 combat brigades against something like 1500 combat divisions (about 4500-5000 brigades). Is this a joke?

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@granitesoldier: Abrams will do as well as the invincible Tiger tanks did. As in the enemy will be driving past the abandoned vehicles after it runs out of fuel.

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Modern US with little difficulty.

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@alcoholbob: And there's still naval support even if there's no air support. Not to mention our supply capabilities are far more dynamic and faster than they used to be.

An Abrams battalion soloing was a joke, but there's a lot of military capabilities that were never brought to bear in the recent brushfire wars.

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@alcoholbob: Yeah. The last time someone tried to do a soviet-era style tank rush the Battle of Golan Heights happened. That was when they were using M48 Pattons and were fighting T-62s/54s/55s. Hint, it didn't end well for the swarmers.

Now, I want you to consider what would happen if you replaced those M48 Pattons with the far more advanced Abrams. Replace all those T-62s with T-34s. Those T-54/55s? Best tanks the soviets have and at this point are more of a prototype since they started making them at the end of the war. Now, this time, said Abrams goes faster then their tanks in reverse. Why does this matter? Because the Abrams outranges the WW2 Tanks by such a degree that it is almost pitiful. The Abrams has the vastly, vastly, vastly superior detection and surveillance equipment. Has the vastly superior armor to the point that it is nigh-invulnerable to anything they can throw at it whilst its main cannon and its ammunition will oneshot any WW2 tank.

Do you know what would happen? A massacre. To a frightening degree. It would only end once all the enemy tanks were dead or when the Abrams left to go get more ammo.

"But airstrike!"

Yeah, good luck with that when their entire air assault gets rapestomped by modern AA fire and Jets.

Their naval forces? They all got wiped out by bombers from our Aircraft Carriers.

Their 'hordes' of infantry? They get butchered by bombing runs, artillery strikes, armored assaults, helicopter strikes and whatever else we just feel like using at the time.

This is a brutal, and cruel, stomp. The tech difference between then and now is hilarious. "But Korea!" Yeah, that war that China took part in near the end and managed to wrack up nearly 800,000 deaths? Right. Great Job! Throwing men into the massive meat grinder! Only this time, the grinder can grind far more meat then you have to throw at it. Gets even more hilarious when you notice the tech difference is far larger this time and our toys are much, much, much better then they were during the Korean War.

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@wut: Exactly Korea. Where they had overwhelming air support, and still got pushed back to the pre-war borders once China swarmed with a peasant army. This thread is army vs army.

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#17  Edited By Wut

@alcoholbob: What part of, "Using Korea is a silly notion since the tech difference this time is far larger," didn't you understand?

You mean that war where China managed to, unbelievably, catch up to North and South Korea's casualties in the fraction of the time? Against a far smaller and far less equipped American army then the one used here?

Or the fact that a single abrams platoon will be wiping out entire WW2 armored divisions and only stopping so they can get more ammo to have another go?

Or the, awesome, fact that, thanks to the glory of Satellites, the WW2 army gets to be constantly outmaneuvered, ambushed and have their BOS's bombed into oblivion?

This is a stomp.

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@wut: satellites aren't part of the army either buddy

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#19  Edited By Wut

@alcoholbob: Using satellite imagery has been a long time standard part of the US army. They have built tools specifically to allow them to do so.

That is like saying the US army doesn't get guns because they didn't physically make the gun.

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I'm no expert on modern warfare but shouldn't the current US take this due entirely to the fact that this is like putting advanced warfare against black ops 1. One has equipment that makes the other look like a joke.

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@redatom1234: More like putting Advanced Warfare against World at War.

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#22  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@wut: satellites aren't part of the army either buddy

LOL Your just trying to find justification at this point.

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Modern U.S. Military Stomps

No nukes doesn't mean no tactical missiles. They could drop daisy cutters and napalm all day.

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#27  Edited By bachh2

@ultra_supermanking: You realize during the war with Iraq (cant remember gulf or the 2003 one) US won a tank abttle losing only 1 tank and it was because of friendly fire ...... Their enemy was less advance tank but nevertheless superior than any tank ww2 nation can offer and they got roft stomp on by the current MBT. I can only imagine the T-34, tiger etc getting 1-shotted without knowing where their enemy fire from in a night battle. In the last 70 years we made more science breakthrough than 5-600 years or so.

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@mimisalome: even if you exclude the Air Force the damn Navy have more than enough power to lay waste to all ww2 air force combine. The F22 would be much faster than any aircraft even concept one, Satellite make them able to know every naval, aerial, major ground force movement. Any swarming attemp will be meet with superior artillery support and naval support. And may Doom save them if the US decide to say f&ck it and use chemical or bio weapon. The battle on sea would be even more disastrous, 11 freaking aircraft carrier + support fleet could prob solo the entire ww2 faction given enough ammo and supplies. No nuke, meh. Just use lot of explosive or again chemical or bio weapon. GG WP and it won't even be close. US gain lot of exp fighting against guerilla warfare in Vietnam and Afghanistan. They wouldn't hesitate and wipe major city from existence

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#29  Edited By Hocko1999_VIRUS

Modern US army has a larger budget, far better and more technologically advanced weapons and vehicles, better and more rigorously trained soldiers, and historical awareness of the other three armies and their capabilities. They should stomp.

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Assuming its the standing US army, then the WW2 Armies should win by virtue of having 60:1 numerical advantages.

If the US can call up on reserves, then it wins easily.

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#31  Edited By AngryHulks

@xxxcarzellxxx said:

Idk we might be too out numbered but like everyone has said we have better equipment

Modern USA has more population as Soviet Union, Germany, and Japan back in 1940's combined, or about 2.5 times more than USA during 1940's.

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We don't exactly need the biggest army when we have so much to compensate for it. We can shoot through their tanks with .50 cals.

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#33  Edited By bachh2

@mrmxyzptlk: what are you gonna do against tactical missilles strike into ship,port and air base? no ship no air base no way of attacking the fleet. Submarine ain't gonna get pass modern detection and anti sub weapon, WW2 air craft gunned down by modern aircraft 10/10 with probably no casualty for modern air force and they operate further from land than their ww2 predecessor. If you can't harm the fleet and they have enough supplies+ammo they gonna trololololol shoot/launch air attack from beyond your radar range and you can only sit there and take their beating.

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@angryhulks:

Now if only I was actually talking about body armor and not tank armour...

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Oh uh hmmm as much as I love the ww2 era modern us army stomps :( the only advantages the ww2 have is pure numbers but even then ww2 era vehicles can't hold a candle to modern us tech.It might be a little more fair if we used like 70s or 60s U.S military

Also LOL to the people talking about air strikes and navel assaults the op said only ground troops its like 2 sentences come on people......

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#38  Edited By cfrehse

Modern us army would beat ww2 due to air and sea domination. We could hit ships planes and bases from anywhere and that's with missiles. No planes I guess. We could see anywhere. Just superior firepower and tech. We can mobilize entire units in less than 24 hours anywhere in the world. We wouldn't need nuclear weapons at all to win. The us in ww2 could have almost one ww2 by themselves. Watch ww2 from space on netflix. Great documentary about how the us changed the tide and how we became a manufacturing and military powerhouse in a few short years.

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#39  Edited By Paytience

@cfrehse: A marine corps meu can boots on the ground anywhere in the world in 6 hrs.

So many reason this is a stomp.

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USA army in a ridiculous stomp. The current tech is so much better, it is not even funny.

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The current USA army would only need a few Abrams tanks and they should stomp badly.

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well i dun goofed oh well

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@wut: That would be a utter stomp

Modern USA has the biggest air force and most navy aircraft carriers

Modern USA land military vehicles just destroy WWII at miles of distance and with satellite use its a stomp

Modern USA would control the oceans and would stop WWII battleships and submarines attacks

Modern USA drones and planes bomb precisely most WWII bases and weapons

Modern USA would win this war in a few months times but the problem would be occupation like Iraq a few years back

just numbers and pocket resistance attacks would be an issue of

This is without nuclear or chemical weapon use but even WWII Canada and Mexico would stay on or side about this

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Im no military buff but usa could probably win without using any infantry

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Well, considering the modern US Army is literally superior in every single imaginable way, (with the exception of numbers, in this case) I can't imagine anything less than complete and utter annihilation.