Dr. Doom vs Thor

Doom

Thor

Round 1: Thor after a good fight.

Round 2: Dr. Doom gets spanked.

Round 3: Doom feels the wrath of Thor.

Thor wins all of it.

Thor wins all rounds .

Loki is stronger than Dr doom!!!

Under the conditions of the OP, Doom uses his prep to stomp Thor with his resources.

Doom stomps

Doom stomps round 1, not sure about 2 and 3. If he's allowed to gather artifacts from different places and timelines then I can see him winning those aswell.

Dr.Doom used Magic and Destroyer armor and lost to Thor

doom wins 1 and 2, thor stomps 3

Had nothing to do with Thor. If you'd actually read the comic in which it happens in, one of Thor's friends depowers it by removing the dead asgardians that were powering the prototype armor. Beyond that, he was getting his ass kicked.

Doom Imo. He is a broken character with prep

I think you're overestimating Dr Doom. Thor fought the Loki and defeated him. Loki knows Thor more and is stronger than Dr. Doom. Why should Thor lose? is defeating the stronger enemies ???? That doesn't make sense. Thor wins

Loki's Magic is more powerful than Dr Doom.

Not sure what you mean by "The Loki" but Doom with a month of prep isn't losing to plain old Thor. I think you need to be focusing more on the source material and reality (which you claim to do via your user entry) than conjecture about "the Loki" and is defeating stronger enemies.

Loki knows her brother more than her shoes. Loki grew up with Thor, but Thor still won. Loki has known Thor for over 4,500 years. Thor uses God-Blast and destroys Dr. Doom. If you don't know what Loki is then what are you doing on this forum ?? You're talking about Comics here, serious kid. Go there to read more.

Loki is a stronger mage than DR doom

A week of prep? Doom slaughters.

Considering you've said in your bio you focus on "statistics" I would have thought that you'd know that the Godblast is something that Thor does with very isolated and specific setup: he's done it maybe two times in a serious manner? Why say regular Thor does it here randomly?

You focusing on Loki is irrelevant here. This is Doom with a month of prep, not Loki. Maybe it would help to focus on Doom's prep than post out of context scans and call people "kid" for being incapable of making a logical claim here.

Once again, you don't understand? I take Loki here as an example against the prepared Dr. doom. How irrelevant? it's not irrelevant, you're irrelevant because you don't understand logic, I took loki from the logic of loki's case as an example against Doom. It's Feats. Doom has a prep for a month, that's a fact but Thor is very adaptable, we still don't know how to prepare doom for Thor, whether he steals Beyonder's power, but I personally think Thor will adapt and kill Doom. That God-Blast is Energy from Mjolnir, which means that he can use it more times when he absorbs energy. Just for the sake of interest.

Loki vs Doom with a month of prep? What's Loki's tech feats, like?

1. That loki has a stronger magic than Doom 2. That several times he tried to kill Thor, with preparations. 3. That Loki turned Thor into a frog. 4. That loki is a god has an Azgarian physiology. 5. That loki is very resourceful, and has more experience, yet he is haunted by 4,500 years, which is something.

The only feats you posted were dreadfully out of context. The fact you didn't even know that tells me a lot.

If you don't understand it, don't even comment on it, I still doubt that you read comics about Loki. I won't even break it down for you here because there's a lot of evidence.

What a non-point. Thor's adaptable....ok? This is Doom with a month of prep. He's already beat Thor in the past multiple times, even stealing his hammer with a Time Drone with less prep and resources at the time.

Thor also kicked Doom's Ass several times, so what. In comics, even weak characters beat strongly characters. It happens. For example, Sentry beat Molecule Man, and MM was stronger, at least with better feats.

......right. Hoping this is just a bad troll attempt here lol. If it is, then you've got some work to do on that front.

It takes more than one month to steal the power of an beyonder, it takes 6 months. But the truth is that Doom with the forces of beyonder is almost omnipotent, so Thor would be killed.

You're talking about me being a Troll, look at yourself and your old posts there , Dumbass.

Considering you've not tagged me, I'm just gonna assume that was a mistake out of passion and not anything else.

R1 Thor hard stomps

R2 Thor With odin all speak

R3 If DR doom has Beyonder power then DR doom, if not Thor blink Stomps

@spydey328: We already all know your position here. Why post again? To throw out more conjecture despite being based around "statistics" and physical evidence?

Unquantifiable. It's not like you can prove that either with some sort of visual evidence. For Doom, we already know that even as a rookie he was a peer of Strange during T&T, copied all of the best magic spells from the greatest mystics during that arc, as well as working closely with Le Fey during Bendis's Avengers as well as Dark Avengers. It was that same magic that cleared most of the Avengers, not Loki's.

Lokis Magic >>>>>> Dr Dooms

Shapeshifting

Transforms into a normal looking man.

Transforms into a snake.

Turns into a pigeon Loki has a thing for pigeons.

Makes himself radioactive.

Turns into a large dragon.

Fought evenly with Thor for a while by utilizing his shapeshifting powers.

Turns into a bee.

Turns into a stingray.

Like all of those times you can't cite?

The Firesword: a magical blade that Loki can summon at will, is strong enough to shatter Asgardian swords and is hot enough to scorch Thors skin without touching him. This is pretty standard for Regular Loki, as he can summon it at will, although it was shattered by Thor during a Halloween fight.

The Norn Stones: magical stones given to Loki by Karnilla that he can use for a multitude of different uses, like rearranging his molecules, amping the Avengers and changing the terrain around him. Loki also used these to give The Hood back his powers

The Odin Ring: a ring housing the power of Odin himself which Loki has on occasion stolen allowing him to do a multitude of things like, trash Thor, deform Balder and one shot Thor. Isn't standard gear, but one of the most powerful things he's on occasion stolen.

Seven League Boots: Magical boots Loki can use to run up glass, rainbows and waterfalls and effortlessly walk across washing lines. Only used by Loki's young adult incarnation.

Gram: a magical sword bathed in dragons blood and enchanted with magic which forces the victim to see the truth or else it kills you or whatever. It's also sharp enough to casually cut through Doombots. This sword is only used by Loki's Young Adult incarnation. Gram was sadly shattered by a pissed Unworthy Thor.

Regular Loki#

This is original Loki, leading up to his death at the hands of The Void. This also includes Lady Loki, due to her not having any power differences or knowledge gaps like his other incarnations.

Strength

• Shattering stone
• Karate chops down a street light
• Knocks over a car
• Took down Eric Masterson Thor by slapping him
• Kills a large troll
• Briefly matched Silver Surfer in strength
• Rips apart a metal door this door was made out of 9 inches of hardened steel
• Shattering stone again
• KO'd Thor by whacking him in the head with a mace
• Brings down a building with one strike
• Defeated the Disir using an enchanted sword The Disir are evil ghost who eat the spirits of dead gods

Speed

• Sidesteps Thors hammer
• Creates an icy shield at the speed of thought
• Dodges Thors hammer again
• Dances around Thors attacks
• Catches a speeding Silver Surfer
• Loki while disguised as Scarlet Witch blows up Hawkeyes arrows mid flight

Durability

• Thor's strongest punch only dazes Loki
• Spider-man can't hurt Loki at all
• Tanks being hit in the jaw by Mjolnir
• No sells Rouges draining touch
• Tanks blast from Silver Surfer
• Doctor Dooms poisons don't affect Loki
• No sells fire that reduced two normal people to skeletons
• Gets repeatedly smashed by Hulk and gets up more pissed than hurt
• Takes a blast from Surtur and shows up fine a few pages later
• Tanks a punch from Iron Man although he might've been amped by his hammer, its never stated
• Tanks a bunch of punches from Thor
• Even as a child, Loki could easily resist The Enchantress's magical charms
• After having his head cut off, Loki just puts it back on
• Gets railed in the jaw by Stormbreaker and gets up like nothing happened

Shapeshifting

• Transforms into a normal looking man
• Transforms into a snake
• Turns into a pigeon Loki has a thing for pigeons
• Makes himself radioactive
• Turns into a large dragon
• Fought evenly with Thor for a while by utilizing his shapeshifting powers
• Turns into a bee
• Turns into a stingray

Magic

Loki's main form of attack and where most of his power comes from. Loki was taught magic by a Light elf named Eldred who found Loki near death after an attack from trolls and nursed him back to health. Loki then sacrificed Eldred to Surtur, the Fire Demon, stealing all of his magic power. He did all of this despite Eldred treating him like a son. What a douche.

Offensive Magic

• Loki when weakened to a fraction of his power was shattering Doctor Stranges shield
• One shots Lady Sif
• Incinerates a frost giant
• Takes down Silver Surfer with a magic blast although he wasn't KO'd
• Melts some Frost Giants with a fire ball these giants were amped by Icemans powers
• Hurts Surtur with his magic blast
• One shots Beta Ray Bill Bill can survive being inside the heart of a sun
• Encases Thor in ice stronger than steel
• Turns Bor(Odins dad) into snow
• Turns Jane Fosters skin inside out along with some other fucked up shit
• One shots an entire team of X-men
• Sends Apocalypse flying with one blast
• Hurts Iron man with his fire
• It takes all of Doctor Stranges focus to momentarily block Loki's psychic bolt

Defensive magic

• Completely negates Doctor Stranges mystical bindings
• Can create magical force fields also more dank pigeon shapeshifting
• Turns a mans hand into glass for touching him
• Dispels Seth's magical bindings, even tho Seth was amped by his dimension
• Can create large ice walls to block attacks
• Can encase himself in mystical stone to protect from attacks

Illusions

• Creating clones to confuse Thor
• Tricking Surtur with his illusions
• Tricks Odin
• Tricking Surtur with his clones
• Turning himself invisible

Other

other ways Loki has used his magic

• Doubles Mister Hyde's and The Cobra's powers
• Makes a psychic a thousand times stronger this made him strong enough to lift large buildings
• Turns a city into candy and disarms a nuke
• Makes a bunch of guns grow wings
• Turns a bunch of clouds into dragons
• Brings the Sphinx to life
• Makes a volcano erupt
• Turns a man into a goat
• Brings two stone lions to life
• Reverses Sue Storms powers, making her suffocate herself
• Turns Hulk back into Banner with a single incantation
• Can also open portals to teleport

Intelligence

• Loki made the potion that gave Absorbing Man his powers
• Created a laser that traveled across the galaxy and turned Thor into a frog
• Built a machine that allowed him to use Icemans powers to amp the Frost Giants
• Creates a stasis potion

Psychic powers

• Hypnotizes Thor
• Mind controls some pigeons
• Mind controls a nurse
• Mind controls Thor again
• Loki can mentally project his mind across the universe while imprisoned
• Loki can also look at peoples memories
• Can Force Choke people
• Mind controls an asgardian warrior
• Briefly places the Warriors Three into a trance
• Throws Red Skull into a wall with the flick of his wrist

Manipulation

• Convinces the Super Skrull to attack Thor
• Convinces Silver Surfer to attack Thor
• Convinces Norman Osborn to attack Asgard
• Manipulated the media into thinking Hulk attacked a train
• Convinces Thor to help him attack Midgard

Kid Loki#

This is revived Loki after being killed by The Void, reborn in the body of a child. Lacking some of the OG Loki's memories and most of his magic experience, so he gets his own section.

Speed

• Dodging attacks from Ms America
• Dodges a swing from Surturs sword

Durability

• Tanks a magically enhanced punch from Wiccan
• Tanks a punch from Ms America

Magic

• Summons a demon
• Creates huge bursts of light with his magic
• Can teleport
• Can summon Eldritch Abominations
• Turns some greeting cards into fake IDs
• Saves Wiccan and Hulkling from an inter dimensional prison although he said this took a lot of preparation

Young Adult Loki#

This isn't actually Loki, but rather an echowho stole his body. This and the feats from Regular and Kid Loki aren't interchangeable, so he gets his own section.

Speed

• Dodges a blast from Doctor Doom
• Dodges a blast from a Doombot

Durability

• Gets punched by Hulk and only gets a black eye
• Tanks a strike from Doctor Doom
• Tanks a bunch of punches from an extremely pissed Thor
• Tanks a punch from Thors uru metal arm
• Tanks even more punches from Unworthy Thor
• Tanks a punch from Ms America

Magic

• Magically shifted his apartment to another building
• Trashes some HYDRA mooks with one spell
• Teleports from a television studio into someones apartment in an instant
• Can still shapeshift, into anything "as long as its him"
• Defending himself with a magic shield

Intelligence

• Hacks into the Avengers database
• Loki cucks Mephisto out of a an Asgardian heros soul

@spydey328: Copy and pasting a RT with no citations isn't a argument. Read the source material instead of parroting someone else.

There is so much evidence that I would write it all day, you wanted evidence here, you are crying now. Don't worry this is proven evidence, argument means proof, just read.

Your answer we will not come as an normal argument but as your emotions

You don't know what you're writing, I'm probably starting to doubt your intelligence. What are you pouring your ass on me now, what are you crying about now? You wanted me to describe here what Loki did, what are his feats, what are you playing offended now? Of course I knew it, I knew all this I described here, I already have something loaded from the comics, otherwise I wouldn't have created an account here. Your deliberate excuses won't help you.

don't cry

Doom should handily win round 1. He could definitely prep and win round 2. Don't see him taking round 3

How so?

Well, prep is a big factor. A week should be more than enough prep time for Doom to take out a base level Thor. That plus the fact that, as far as I know, Doom has enough durability to tank, at least, a few solid hits from Thor. Without amps or outliers, he's also a very powerful sorcerer, coming decently close to rivaling Dr. Strange. Doom has enough hax, durability, and prep to easily take round 1.

I actually don't see him taking rounds 2 or 3. Thor w/ Odin Force and Rune King Thor are simply too powerful. I don't know the extent of Doom's prep, but based off what I listed, Doom isn't doing any damage at all.

I am most likely wrong about a lot of this, but that's my BASED take XD

I mean, if you've read the Doom RT's, you see that there's multiple instances where Doom is able to beat stronger foes using prep and tech he made himself: giving him a week to figure out to do this when he's actually already did the same with no prep and only scraps he picked up from places (Secret Wars and the Hyperstorm arc respectively) then I can't really see him losing to Thor considering his powers and range are quite limited.

R1-Doom
R2-Thor
R3-Thor

I have not read Doom's RT. I will look into that. I guess Odin Force Thor would be decently limited, but he'd still be, at least, universal or multi-universal no? I don't know Doom to regularly beat foes that powerful.

@boutatakeanl: Odin Force Thor wouldn't be universal tbh. It depends on what Odin Force Thor you use, because there's multiple.

As for the RT's, I list them all here. There's a lot of reading, but, well, Doom is a lot to cover lol

@professorrespect: Nice RT's always a ton of fun catching up on Doom been awhile!

Thanks!

Doom is prep monster so he takes R1 but R2 depends on the OFT and RKT should win R3

Thor gets drained and his neurons get scrambled.

By the way, bringing up Loki doesn't work. The only reason why he hasn't killed Thor is because, duh, Marvel wouldn't do that. Just like Venom or Carnage should have massacred Spidey years ago.

That and the fact that Thor is knowledgeable on his trickery/mischief plus they're brothers which might hold Loki back some time.

Thank you! I will definitely go through that.