Poll Dangai Ichigo vs Zagred(Black Clover) (48 votes)
•In Character
•Location: Near Mountains
•Starting Distance: 60ft
•No Knowledge/Prep
•Canon Feats Only
•Ichigo is visible and no reiahsu crush
•Win by DEATH
•In Character
•Location: Near Mountains
•Starting Distance: 60ft
•No Knowledge/Prep
•Canon Feats Only
•Ichigo is visible and no reiahsu crush
•Win by DEATH
@one_of_two: Licht managed to stop the demon momentarily but the demon managed to overpower Licht again. It attempted to strike Lumiere but he managed to trap it with light strings. The light sword spell from Patri that expanded over the entire clover kingdom is far above multi mountain and he admitted to being weaker than Lumiere and Licht. This spell was done before he even got his dark elf amp. It's kind of like Kaguya being able to destroy the planet from statements. The statement about Demon Licht was confirmed by Lumiere and Zagred. If there's nothing that contradicts the statements they should be considered valid.
Zagred is like small country and FTL. Dangai Ichigo is like what maybe multi mountain?
Mind explaining to everyone here of how Dangai Ichigo is weaker than the Espada 1-6?
@faradaysloth: What is your scaling for them?
@namebk: Pretty easy, watch Memories of Nobody (which is canon), see characters like Shikai Ichigo & Eyepatch Kenpachi get casual mountain-mountain+ feats, and watch Espada 1-6 destroy them.
@faradaysloth: That still doesn't tell me where you have him at. If you say he's above those Espada who can perform those feats then where do you consider him?
@faradaysloth: That still doesn't tell me where you have him at. If you say he's above those Espada who can perform those feats then where do you consider him?
You didn't ask me to tell you where he's at.
But he should comfortably be at Country level potency, with all in-verse facts we know of.
@theemperor95: The sentence makes sense. You said you weren't talking about DC and I replied with "AP to a character with lower AP in Bleach can match someone with higher AP with just Reiatsu."
Now back to the topic at hand after re reading through some of Bleach I would have to say I agree with you. Dangai Ichigo being above Ultra Fragor makes sense because Base EOS Ichigo is equal to Dangai and I have EOS Ichigo at Island level and in Bankai small country level (we never saw it but I would assume he gets stronger so Island -> Country is the logical jump).
@gdara: How so?
Can go either way but leaning towards Zagred tbh. If this was any version of Ichigo from TYBW no BC character as of now stands a chance.
@phie2: eh I mean several people should be able to beat him unless he's ftl(which I doubt) and can resist conceptual destructive(which I also doubt)and several BC characters that have time manipulation to being capable of cutting dimensions so no unless you were going by AP and DC wise then yes he is above every BC character in that region but I do have several BC characters beating him
@phie2: eh I mean several people should be able to beat him unless he's ftl(which I doubt) and can resist conceptual destructive(which I also doubt)and several BC characters that have time manipulation to being capable of cutting dimensions so no unless you were going by AP and DC wise then yes he is above every BC character in that region but I do have several BC characters beating him
Interesting, this isn't the place for it but I wouldn't mind debating that.
This version of ichigo technically can't keep up with Zagred, but for Zagred to actually harm ichigo he'd need to use the life force sucking summoning and that would probably take hours for it to actually kill Ichigo due to his insane reiyoku (essentially life force in this context) levels. If Ichigo were to tag Zagred, I'm 100% sure Zagred would die. Butterfly Aizen >>> Zagred in every physical aspect except speed.
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