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Whats Supes top feat thus far??

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

@cattlebattle: That's what I heard, I haven't read it the series but so far he is like Golden Age or something like that. Someone else would have to verify.

@god_spawn said:

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

Your joking right....GAH!!! i CANT take it Superman used to be able to One shot planets, now he gets knocked out by TRAINS?!!.

@Illuminatus said:

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

@acer51 said:

@god_spawn said:

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

Your joking right....GAH!!! i CANT take it Superman used to be able to One shot planets, now he gets knocked out by TRAINS?!!.

6 YEARS Prior to the present.

That being said, is this Colosonaut or just regular Colossus?

If it's regular than Superman wins, even if Colossus could match him physically, Supes is still too fast.

6 YEARS Prior to the present.

That being said, is this Colosonaut or just regular Colossus?

If it's regular than Superman wins, even if Colossus could match him physically, Supes is still too fast.

@Dex_Starr: You're reply to me didn't show up. And I understand that.

@Illuminatus: Juggernaut has a vulnerability to strong magics. Kuurth had enough power to hurt him which could bypass it. The only other instance I saw him getting "hurt" was in UXM when the helmet flew off after Cyclops shot it off but I question if he was powered up then seeing as how it broke and came off so easily when it was the same writer who wrote the fight with Kuurth. Other than that I haven't seen a solid incident of him getting hurt unless it was outside of Uncanny.

@god_spawn said:

@Dex_Starr: You're reply to me didn't show up. And I understand that.

I know, I wanted to respond to 2 people instead of one so you'd both get the reply in your inbox.

@Dex_Starr: Gotcha.

@Illuminatus: Juggernaut has a vulnerability to strong magics. Kuurth had enough power to hurt him which could bypass it. The only other instance I saw him getting "hurt" was in UXM when the helmet flew off after Cyclops shot it off but I question if he was powered up then seeing as how it broke and came off so easily when it was the same writer who wrote the fight with Kuurth. Other than that I haven't seen a solid incident of him getting hurt unless it was outside of Uncanny.

@Illuminatus: It didn't really hurt him, just staggered Colossus which Cyclops has done back in the day. Also I think Colossus depowered himself prior to entering Sinister's palace. His eyes were white, he was calm, no red energy or wanting to smash people. Though he depowered himself cutting himself from Cyttorak which cuts off the invulnerability, he just kept the helmet cause it provides telepathic resistance not Cyttorak. That's how I make sense of it. Not really sure if it was the writer's intentions though.

@Illuminatus: It didn't really hurt him, just staggered Colossus which Cyclops has done back in the day. Also I think Colossus depowered himself prior to entering Sinister's palace. His eyes were white, he was calm, no red energy or wanting to smash people. Though he depowered himself cutting himself from Cyttorak which cuts off the invulnerability, he just kept the helmet cause it provides telepathic resistance not Cyttorak. That's how I make sense of it. Not really sure if it was the writer's intentions though.

@acer51 said:

@god_spawn said:

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

Your joking right....GAH!!! i CANT take it Superman used to be able to One shot planets, now he gets knocked out by TRAINS?!!.

1.It was a bullet train,which was going at some very fast speeds.

2.The action comics superman is golden age level

@Illuminatus said:

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

We have more than enough feats already to put him into a general area,he's at golden age superman level,and his powers continue to increase.And soon it'll be at the regular superman level.And since colossus and Dcnu supes can lift around the same amount of weight I thought it was a good match up.

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

Stopping a bullet train lol

Superman is still faster..plus Justice Leagues supes is stonger then action comics supes..I havent even seen him bleed yet..thats the supes with actual costume by the way

@acer51 said:

@god_spawn said:

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

I heard he got knocked out by a train.

Your joking right....GAH!!! i CANT take it Superman used to be able to One shot planets, now he gets knocked out by TRAINS?!!.

1.It was a bullet train,which was going at some very fast speeds.

2.The action comics superman is golden age level

@Illuminatus said:

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

We have more than enough feats already to put him into a general area,he's at golden age superman level,and his powers continue to increase.And soon it'll be at the regular superman level.And since colossus and Dcnu supes can lift around the same amount of weight I thought it was a good math up.

@cattlebattle said:

Whats Supes top feat thus far??

Stopping a bullet train lol

i'm leaning toward Superman here...but my mind can be changed

@Illuminatus said:

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: Juggernaut has a vulnerability to strong magics. Kuurth had enough power to hurt him which could bypass it. The only other instance I saw him getting "hurt" was in UXM when the helmet flew off after Cyclops shot it off but I question if he was powered up then seeing as how it broke and came off so easily when it was the same writer who wrote the fight with Kuurth. Other than that I haven't seen a solid incident of him getting hurt unless it was outside of Uncanny.

The Cyclops helmet-busting incident was the one I was referring too. It's silly that a concussive blast from Scott can melt any Juggernaut's helmet.

I thought the optic beams weren't meant to melt objects?

@Illuminatus said:

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: Juggernaut has a vulnerability to strong magics. Kuurth had enough power to hurt him which could bypass it. The only other instance I saw him getting "hurt" was in UXM when the helmet flew off after Cyclops shot it off but I question if he was powered up then seeing as how it broke and came off so easily when it was the same writer who wrote the fight with Kuurth. Other than that I haven't seen a solid incident of him getting hurt unless it was outside of Uncanny.

The Cyclops helmet-busting incident was the one I was referring too. It's silly that a concussive blast from Scott can melt any Juggernaut's helmet.

I thought the optic beams weren't meant to melt objects?

@eatmore_payless said:

@Illuminatus said:

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: Juggernaut has a vulnerability to strong magics. Kuurth had enough power to hurt him which could bypass it. The only other instance I saw him getting "hurt" was in UXM when the helmet flew off after Cyclops shot it off but I question if he was powered up then seeing as how it broke and came off so easily when it was the same writer who wrote the fight with Kuurth. Other than that I haven't seen a solid incident of him getting hurt unless it was outside of Uncanny.

The Cyclops helmet-busting incident was the one I was referring too. It's silly that a concussive blast from Scott can melt any Juggernaut's helmet.

I thought the optic beams weren't meant to melt objects?

That's why it was silly. Lol

@Illuminatus: It cracked and chipped that was it. It didn't look like it was melting.

@Illuminatus: It cracked and chipped that was it. It didn't look like it was melting.

@Illuminatus: That was a different book it looked like a goo when Colossus was forming his helmet.

From UXM 2 Cracked and chipped and like I said he probably cut himself off from Cyttorak prior to entering Sinister's mansion.

@Illuminatus: Your welcome.

Clark only needs three feats for this battle...

1. Faster than a speeding bullet.

2. Almost as powerful as a locomotive.

3. Still able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

Feats number 1 and 2 allow Clark to beat Colossus, or stalemate if he's Colossunaut.

The answer...is still Superman.

@Void_Paladin said:

Clark only needs three feats for this battle...

1. Faster than a speeding bullet.

2. Almost as powerful as a locomotive.

3. Still able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

Feats number 1 and 2 allow Clark to beat Colossus, or stalemate if he's Colossunaut.

The answer...is still Superman.

You see those are the core princapals of Superman, so he's still Super-man as long as....

He, still goes faster then a speeding bullet.

he's more powerfull then a locomotive.

And he can stil leap tall builings in single bounds.

So now that he is no longer more powerfull then a locomotive, he has failed one of the requirments, and thus is no longer Superman.

Colossus.

@Illuminatus said:

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

Don't really matter, I don't think that the AC's flashback story arcs will last all that long and since we've already seen his weakness we know his power level until he becomes Superman's Superman. Redundancy ftw.

I haven't read Action Comics but can he even KO Colossus?

@Illuminatus said:

Maybe people should wait a few months before putting DCnU Supes into battles...

Don't really matter, I don't think that the AC's flashback story arcs will last all that long and since we've already seen his weakness we know his power level until he becomes Superman's Superman. Redundancy ftw.

@Illuminatus said:

Oh shush up, you. :P

At any rate, Superman needs more feats before one can make a fair assessment of his power levels, in my opinion.

Duct tape doesn't shut me up, but yeah I agree. Then again, what the hell do I know, apparently I'm just f**king stupid.

@cattlebattle:

not necessarily true, colossus is probably the second strongest mutant alive besides namor and colossus has been training with the x men since he was a teenager. he is probably in the top 20 or thirty strongest people on earth in the MU. he has been training with wolvie for years

@acer51 said:

@Void_Paladin said:

Clark only needs three feats for this battle...

1. Faster than a speeding bullet.

2. Almost as powerful as a locomotive.

3. Still able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

Feats number 1 and 2 allow Clark to beat Colossus, or stalemate if he's Colossunaut.

The answer...is still Superman.

You see those are the core princapals of Superman, so he's still Super-man as long as....

He, still goes faster then a speeding bullet.

he's more powerfull then a locomotive.

And he can stil leap tall builings in single bounds.

So now that he is no longer more powerfull then a locomotive, he has failed one of the requirments, and thus is no longer Superman.

Sigh. I understand that it was a bullet train, but that still made me sad. Why, Action Comics, why???!!!!!

@Illuminatus said:

Oh shush up, you. :P

At any rate, Superman needs more feats before one can make a fair assessment of his power levels, in my opinion.

Duct tape doesn't shut me up, but yeah I agree. Then again, what the hell do I know, apparently I'm just f**king stupid.

@Illuminatus said:

@ReVamp said:

@Illuminatus said:

Oh shush up, you. :P

At any rate, Superman needs more feats before one can make a fair assessment of his power levels, in my opinion.

Duct tape doesn't shut me up, but yeah I agree. Then again, what the hell do I know, apparently I'm just f**king stupid.

Don't be such a melancholic mess.

Coming from the guy with the MK av... "Mess" may not be totally appropriate.

@Illuminatus said:

@ReVamp said:

@Illuminatus said:

Oh shush up, you. :P

At any rate, Superman needs more feats before one can make a fair assessment of his power levels, in my opinion.

Duct tape doesn't shut me up, but yeah I agree. Then again, what the hell do I know, apparently I'm just f**king stupid.

Don't be such a melancholic mess.

Coming from the guy with the MK av... "Mess" may not be totally appropriate.

1. Moon Knight is not a melancholic mess (although I have become one after Bendis started writing him).
2. Moon Knight would stomp all over Wesley. :)

@Illuminatus said:

1. Moon Knight is not a melancholic mess (although I have become one after Bendis started writing him).
2. Moon Knight would stomp all over Wesley. :)

1. Which is why I said "Mess" not melancholic. I'm well aware that he wasn't schizophrenic till Bendis decided that this would change the world.
2. BS and you f**kcin' know it. Betta Recognize, Son!

1. Which is why I said "Mess" not melancholic. I'm well aware that he wasn't schizophrenic till Bendis decided that this would change the world.
2. BS and you f**kcin' know it. Betta Recognize, Son!

1. Aha, but nevertheless, Bendis makes both of us unhappy, it would seem.
2. Marc uses his new Capn'Murika powers and KABLAMO!, knocks Wesley out.

@Illuminatus said:

@ReVamp said:

1. Which is why I said "Mess" not melancholic. I'm well aware that he wasn't schizophrenic till Bendis decided that this would change the world.
2. BS and you f**kcin' know it. Betta Recognize, Son!

1. Aha, but nevertheless, Bendis makes both of us unhappy, it would seem.
2. Marc uses his new Capn'Murika powers and KABLAMO!, knocks Wesley out.

1. True. Siege was great though.
2. Wesley uses his powers and Marc's artery bursts.

@Illuminatus said:

@ReVamp said:

1. Which is why I said "Mess" not melancholic. I'm well aware that he wasn't schizophrenic till Bendis decided that this would change the world.
2. BS and you f**kcin' know it. Betta Recognize, Son!

1. Aha, but nevertheless, Bendis makes both of us unhappy, it would seem.
2. Marc uses his new Capn'Murika powers and KABLAMO!, knocks Wesley out.

1. True. Siege was great though.
2. Wesley uses his powers and Marc's artery bursts.

1. It was remarkable toilet paper.
2. Marc uses Logan powers and becomes a berserker-indestructible-hairy-crazy-man and eats Wesley.

@Illuminatus said:

1. It was remarkable toilet paper.
2. Marc uses Logan powers and becomes a berserker-indestructible-hairy-crazy-man and eats Wesley.

/debate.

1. It was great for paper mashe too. For real.
2. Wesley uses his plot device skills and wills Marc out of existence via TOAA level powers.

@cattlebattle:

not necessarily true, colossus is probably the second strongest mutant alive besides namor and colossus has been training with the x men since he was a teenager. he is probably in the top 20 or thirty strongest people on earth in the MU. he has been training with wolvie for years

Superman wins.

I agree with AC Supes being Golden Age levels so I give Collosus a fair shot at beating him. Supes is faster than him but he's shown to be more apt to step in and try to pummel Collosus first then figure out another tactic.

I give Supes 7/10 because Collosus has been consistently underwhelming to me for awhile.

@cattlebattle:

i do agree thats supes would win.. im just saying colossus is a beast!