This is Eddie Brock Venom. Batman gets one day prep and fight is in Gotham City. Morals off. Fight to death. Venom can call in help of Carnage if needed, and Batman can call in Nightwing if needed. Pre-52 For both. Batman, and Batman only, gets full knowledge of Venom, and Venom only.
Batman vs. Venom (Eddie Brock)
Eddie would be standing over Bruce's and Dick's horribly mangled corpses.
Carnage is not needed you could probably add jason,tim and damian and he still wouldnt need help.
Batman could get fire and sonic weapons in one day and defeat Venom. Bringing in Nightwing with those weapons would only seal in the victory. Carnage is a same result.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
Batman could get fire and sonic weapons in one day and defeat Venom. Bringing in Nightwing with those weapons would only seal in the victory. Carnage is a same result.
He isnt going to figure out Venom's weaknesses in one day and even if he did having weapons that hurt venom doesnt give you an automatic win.
Brock is vastly superior in every physical aspect and could kill them in a single blow.
This depends on the sonic weapon but even if Batman did know Venoms weakness it would be close.
If Bruce doesn't know Carnage has the same weakness then Carnage could kill Batman quickly while he is fighting Venom.
Full info now and 1 day of prep, this just became a batgod fanboy nightmare lol (no hate for bats just his overboard fans)
Brock was able to destroy a sonic weapon and nearly drowned johnny storm when parker went after him, so he still has good odds.
@darktiger said:
Venom fanboy han well sorry but bats wins sonic weapons make venom go bye bye
Ya he clearly went bye bye here. (well he did but he tanked the first sonic blast)
and IMO reed's tech>Bruce's tech
bats with prep and info on venom? venom get his teeth kicked in. carnage would be of no help being as they share the same weakness. if bats didnt have info on venom and only prep bats still wins but not by much. no prep? venom eats him alive.
maybe if venom could call on anti venom. or oh god cosmic carnage. but that would make it curb stomp just not for bats...
I agree with lord Vulcan on this one, batman is the prep king, with knowledge of venom he wins but with out prep venom obliterates bats
With an hour prep Batman will gather the basic anti-venom weapons.
Flame throwers and some explosives.
Sonic weapons.
That won't be enough.
But what people don't realize is how horribly inferior Batman is to these villans, if he gets touched he's dead meat.
I can understand Batman winning a 4/10 with the prep, but with Carnage Batman is dead meat.
Batman gets his head bitten off by Carnage.
@darktiger said:
dude you do realize we are talking about the 2000's versions not 1960's
Venom was created in 1988
@darktiger: He posted a scan of Eddie tanking a sonic blast from a cannon built by Reed Richards. Personally I don't believe Batman can build something better in a day. Especially if you add Carnage into the mix, All either of them need is one shot and he and Nightwing are done.
venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.
@LordVulcan said:
venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.
-_- sure
Hell there's another instance were venom killed over 20 guards armed with sonic weapons.One Day of prep isn't going to cut it.
@LordVulcan said:
venom got beat by a lighter at one point. his weakness to fire goes up and down a lot. sooo ya that happened... and pretty sure same thing has happened with sonics.
I don't know where thats from but it looks like really good art, I'm sure the writer is of the same high quality.
Having full knowledge of Venom gives the tactical advantage to Bruce. The thread says full knowledge, that means, Bruce knows exactly how, why, what etc. With prep time Batman managed to deal with Superman, you think Bruce won't be able to deal with Venom? Really? Now, if we add Carnage, I think Batman has a problem, cause it's too much for him to handle, even if Nightwing is with him. But, who knows? He's the goddamn Batman!
@jwalser3: First of all, I never said Superman lost to Batman. I said "Batman managed to deal with Superman", having in my mind Batman stalling Superman in "Hush". But, if you want a Superman defeat, you may read Miller's "The Dark Knight returns", where an older Bruce defeats Superman.
With these rules and stips, Batman would FULLY exploit the symbiotes weakness against fire and high frequency sonics...B-man has the tech and smarts to come up with some insane device to bring venom to his knees....w/o prep and knowledge on the symbiote, Venom would be eating Bruces brains
Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman
@society619 said:
Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman
It is in this forum.
@Duke_Nasty said:
@society619 said:
Venom wins still, one day of prep isn't going to be enough to come up with a way to beat Venom, his weaknesses to fire and sonic varies so having a weapon wouldn't be a sure thing, like Superman with Kpyto. "Prep Time" isn't a automatic win for Batman
It is in this forum.
Alot of things don't make sense in this forum, doesn't make it anymore true
That wasn't Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man. That's Mark Bagley. McFarlane was already off doing Spawn at that point. He had nothing to do with Carnage.@Death Certificate: I love McFarlane's Spiderman, so, don't get me wrong, but this fight against Spidey&Johny was a little bit "disappointing". Johny going down like this? Really? Drowning??? And why is he still up after that sonic blast from Peter? Sonic blasts split the two personalities and the pain is way too great to handle. But, my dearest McFarlane (I respect him a lot honestly), wanted a good introduction for Carnage, so he wanted to show how strong is Venom in order to show how much stronger is the new symbiote with that lunatic Kasady. That's all for me.
@jwalser3: Really? If it seems hostile, please accept my apologies, cause I assure you that wasn't my intention!
If Batman knows his weakness to sonic and fire, then there really isn't a fight here. He could probably deduce that Carnage has a similar weakness since he is very similar.
If not Venom would destroy Bruce, with Dick it would be close. Carnage by himself would easily beat both of them.
@kcaz said:actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weaponsreally? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
@kcaz said:
@Shawnbaby said:@kcaz said:actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weaponsreally? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
It was shown in JLA : DOOM that Batman had files and methods of taking everyone in the JLA down if they went rogue.
The contingency plans are part of the prep though...and he didn't create those in 24 hours. Besides, prep or no prep...if any of the justice league wanted to kill batman...he'd be dead in half a second.@Shawnbaby said:
@kcaz said:actually, i think he can, since he already has contingency plans for each and everyone of the JLA members. so all he has to do is run to his computer, look through the files, and gather the necessary weaponsreally? 24 hours prep? you giving someone who can take out superman and the entire JLA with prep 24 hours prep?Batman wouldn't take out the JL or Spider-Man with only 24 hours prep.
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