I want a hard R myself. Some of Deadpools best moments involved him casually shooting people in the face. Plus, if it's not R how can we get the Bea Arthur/Deadpool sex scene?
Deadpool
Character » Deadpool appears in 3332 issues.
Wade Wilson is a former test subject of the Weapon X program, where he received his regenerative healing factor through the scientific experiments conducted upon him. A prominent enemy, ally and later, member of X-Force. He's famous for breaking the Fourth Wall.
Deadpool Movie, should it be rated R or PG-13?
Like i've been saying, if you want to see actual bloodshed, it will have to be R. You can have violence in PG-13 but there cannot be blood. And i'm sorry, but i do not want to see Deadpool dismember someone or shoot them in the face... and there be no blood what so ever... it'll take me out of the movie.
" @DeathpooltheT1000: See There will be Blood had one scene of real violence. Blood was shown... and it got an R. Like i've been saying, if you want to see actual bloodshed, it will have to be R. You can have violence in PG-13 but there cannot be blood. And i'm sorry, but i do not want to see Deadpool dismember someone or shoot them in the face... and there be no blood what so ever... it'll take me out of the movie. "The Batman v. Dracula... PG... had Joker drenched in human blood, drinking as it rained down on him, until his white body and face turned red. Heroes has Claire chest open on a table... or hand ground up in a disposal unit... or jagged bones sticking out of her torso or arms. The PG Indiana Jones series has had people's faces melt off, burned alive, decapitated, and all manner of violence.
But here's the most damning thing. Every reference you're making to Deadpool has been in a PG13 comic book. The comic book DIDN'T NEED a "M" rating to tell its story but somehow you think the film suddenly would? You realize that in shooting a film and in producing special effects they don't actually shoot people in the face, right? Those images are all created... they have to make choices about what to show, what not to, how graphic it will be, etc. If everything in the vast majority of Deadpool comics are PG13, why would the same artistic representation of that event suddenly convert to R? That's as absurd as saying a motion picture version of the Looney Tunes will be R rated because of its violent content. It is NOT just subject matter but much more presentation and barring Deadpool MAX, Deadpool's presentation ISN'T R rated.
There Will Be Blood is an example of a starkly realistic presentation so even one graphic scene can warrant an R rating. By contrast, Deadpool has over 20 years worth of PG13 stories. Pushing for R sounds like wanting Deadpool to be something he's not.
"Rating processThe MPAA does not release specific guidelines as to what content will receive which rating. However, they do state that many factors are considered including content such as sex, violence, nudity, language, adult topics and drug use. Some guidelines can be derived based on the MPAA's actual rating decisions:
- If a film uses "one of the harsher sexually derived words" (such as fuck) one to four times, it is routine today for the film to receive a PG-13 rating, provided that the word is used as an expletive and not with a sexual meaning (this was mentioned in Be Cool, when Chili Palmer complains about the movie industry.). Both Back to School and Away from Her contain four uses of "fuck" in non-sexual context. An example of a film that might suggest this criterion is Waiting for Guffman, which contains mostly PG-13 content, yet is rated R (brief strong language) because a man auditioning for a role uses fuck in a sexual context while quoting Raging Bull (the only time it is spoken in the movie). Also, some films are rated R but contain minimal use of the word, such as Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Run Lola Run, 88 Minutes, and Frost/Nixon. Exceptions may be allowed, "by a special vote of the ratings board" where the board feels such an exception would better reflect the sensibilities of American parents. A couple of exceptions were noted: rare films such as Guilty by Suspicion were allowed as many as nine uses of the word; probably because of the precedent set in the 1970s by politically important films such as All the President's Men. All the President's Men was once rated R but then re-rated PG on appeal. It is a common misconception that if a movie uses fuck in a nonsexual context more than once, it will automatically receive an R rating. In reality, PG-13 movies are routinely allowed two or three uses. Some movies such as Valkyrie, I, Robot, and The Sum of All Fears each have fuck said once, but still received the PG-13 Rating. But there have been two extreme circumstances so far: Gunner Palace has 42 uses of the word, 2 used sexually, and The Hip Hop Project has 17 uses. Both films were rated PG-13 on appeal from an R rating. Precedent for this dates back to the early days of the system, in which an independent film called "Saturday Morning" (a documentary including interviews with youth) was allowed many extra uses of the word to accommodate its documentary nature without restricting its primary audience. (See Farber's book, described below, for documentation of the "Saturday Morning" fact.)
- A reference to drugs, such as marijuana, usually gets a movie a PG-13 rating at a minimum. A well known example of an otherwise PG movie getting a PG-13 for a drug reference (momentary, along with brief language) is Whale Rider. The film contained only mild profanity but received a PG-13 because of a scene where drug paraphernalia were briefly visible. Critic Roger Ebert criticized the MPAA for the rating and called it "a wild overreaction."
- A graphic or explicit scene of illegal drug use will earn a film at least a PG-13 rating (such as Ray, where Ray Charles is depicted using heroin and marijuana) and, especially in the case of hard drugs, even an R rating. In rare cases, extremely graphic scenes of hard drug use will get a film an NC-17 (see Bad Lieutenant, rated NC-17 "for sexual violence, strong sexual situations & dialogue, graphic drug use.")
- In May 2007, the MPAA announced that depictions of cigarette smoking would be considered in a film's rating. On a side note, Universal Studios has a policy on depictions of tobacco. Starting April 16, 2007, they presume that no smoking incidents appear in youth-rated (G, PG, PG-13) films, and that if there is such an incident, a "health warning" that usually states "THIS FILM CONTAINS DEPICTIONS OF TOBACCO CONSUMPTION" will appear on any marketing material, DVD packaging, end credits, etc. Walt Disney Pictures no longer allows smoking in its movies, or at least in its newer movies, as 101 Dalmatians was released uncut on DVD after Disney banned smoking in its films despite Cruella de Vil being portrayed as a fanatic smoker.
- If a film contains strong sexual content, it usually receives at least an R rating. The film Lost in Translation contained a scene in a strip club that had brief topless nudity while the song " Fuck the Pain Away" by Peaches played in the background. The scene was brief and the rest of the film had PG-13 level content, but the film still received an R rating. In general, films containing female nudity receive an automatic R rating. In the case of I Capture the Castle, a shot of a topless woman got the film an R rating "for brief nudity". In many other countries with a similar ratings system (such as the UK, Australia, and Canada), the film received an equivalent of G or PG. However, there are many films including buttock and/or breast nudity (and in some cases, genital nudity) that are rated PG-13 or less. A few examples:
Adn actually why a movie is Pg13 and R rated, is thanks to the board of guys, who say if is pg 13 or R rated, there is a votation and they decide, that why i have wtached a bunch of movie with gay sex as pg 13 and other with gay sex being rated r, i think is something about who the actors are.
- Shirtless men are allowed in G-rated films, while topless women usually earn at least a PG-13. Before the adaptation of the PG-13 rating, topless women could be seen in several PG-rated films such as some of the ones mentioned above.. Even after the PG-13 rating had been implemented, topless women have been featured in PG-rated films, but generally in documentaries that depict it in a cultural or scientific context, such as in Babies. If a film contains male rear nudity, it is more likely to be given a lower rating than if the nudity were female. Male nudity is generally regarded as ribald (i.e. mooning) or natural, while female nudity is generally regarded as sexual. When it comes to exposed genitalia, there appears to be a double standard that allows male genitals to be shown much more often and more graphically than female genitals. Some films containing full-frontal male nudity have received PG and PG-13 ratings, such as The Cider House Rules (PG-13), in which a male migrant worker takes a shower and his genitalia are visible for a few seconds, though the scene is very brief and not in a sexual context. Films containing male or female full-frontal nudity usually earn an R rating, or possibly NC-17 if depicted in sexual situations. Many R-rated films have male frontal nudity such as Boogie Nights, Jackass: The Movie, Jackass: Number Two, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, Kinsey, Sideways, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, The Life of Brian, Watchmen, Zack and Miri Make a Porno and many more. While many films show female full-frontal nudity, in nearly every case, only the pubic hair is seen and the actual vulva is not seen. The end result is that male genitals are far more prevalent than female genitals in R-rated films. R-rated movies have also been allowed to show erect penises, such as in Bruno, The Hangover, and The Departed, while no R-rated film has ever shown aroused (wet) female genitals, suggesting a double standard.
- Films that have legitimate historical or educational value are often granted leniency. Some have argued that the level of violence in Saving Private Ryan merited an NC-17 rating, but that the film was given leniency because it was a historical war movie (However, in both the UK and Ireland the film received a 15 certificate, in New Zealand the film received an R16 rating and in Australia an MA15+ rating after an appeal against the initial R rating). This argument also came up when The Passion of the Christ was released without cuts, with an R rating.
- Violence which includes bloodshed will usually receive a PG-13 or R rating, though in extreme cases bloodshed violence may receive an NC-17 rating. The film Scream was originally rated NC-17 for "graphic horror violence and gore" but under appeal by director Wes Craven, it was changed to R with some overly graphic content cut out. It does depend on how long the blood is actually shown and how much of it. Bloodless violence will usually be rated PG or PG-13 (e.g. Alien vs. Predator; the unrated version contains the same content as the PG-13-rated version in terms of violence. However, every violent scene includes bloodshed. The same thing happened with Pearl Harbor, in which explicit gunshot wounds and violence were added to get an R rating on the director's cut DVD.) The anime Appleseed has PG-13 level violence. However, there was a scene of a mecha crushing a man's head, with resulting blood. The MPAA rated it R for "some violence", but the scene was rather undetailed compared to other films of its type, like The Matrix. (In the UK, Appleseed was rated 12A and in Spain it was rated 13.) There Will Be Blood had no explicit violence, but the MPAA also rated this film R for "some violence". There is a scene in which a man is beaten with a bowling pin and a small pool of blood is shown onscreen as a result.
- Ratings criteria are intended to reflect changing norms and compromises between the diverse needs and rights of various interests in a large and complex modern society. Inevitably, the private views of the Ratings Board members will affect what is deemed acceptable for children to watch, determined in part by the culture of the time. Therefore, an evaluation of ratings criteria must specify what year or approximate period of time is being referred to, when modeling the standards relevant to each film classification. For example, according to This Film Is Not Yet Rated, films depicting homosexual sex scenes have been treated much more harshly than those depicting similar heterosexual scenes.
Also they care more about sex that violence, then if Deadpool goe in a killing rampage naked = R
If he goes in a killing rampoage with his suit is = Pg 13
Also, if you have some actor that they like or famous actors, super famous director, it means is going to be PG 13, then if you have Brad Pitt ihaving sex with geroger Clooney killing 100 million guys = pg13
If i and another guys kill 30, without having sex = Nc17.
The Rating System is pure bollshi@$t.
"I watched a documentary on the rating process. It bureacratic bullshit. You're right. The rules are there but they aren't followed.
@Mainline:
You make a great point. But like I have said. People here are confusing "pg-13" with family friendly. It isn't necessarily so.
I mean Undisputed movies are Rated R at least 2 and 3, the body count 5 or 6 guys." @DeathpooltheT1000 said:
"Rating process@Mainline: You make a great point. But like I have said. People here are confusing "pg-13" with family friendly. It isn't necessarily so. "I mean Undisputed movies are Rated R at least 2 and 3.The MPAA does not release specific guidelines as to what content will receive which rating. However, they do state that many factors are considered including content such as sex, violence, nudity, language, adult topics and drug use. Some guidelines can be derived based on the MPAA's actual rating decisions:
- If a film uses "one of the harsher sexually derived words" (such as fuck) one to four times, it is routine today for the film to receive a PG-13 rating, provided that the word is used as an expletive and not with a sexual meaning (this was mentioned in Be Cool, when Chili Palmer complains about the movie industry.). Both Back to School and Away from Her contain four uses of "fuck" in non-sexual context. An example of a film that might suggest this criterion is Waiting for Guffman, which contains mostly PG-13 content, yet is rated R (brief strong language) because a man auditioning for a role uses fuck in a sexual context while quoting Raging Bull (the only time it is spoken in the movie). Also, some films are rated R but contain minimal use of the word, such as Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Run Lola Run, 88 Minutes, and Frost/Nixon. Exceptions may be allowed, "by a special vote of the ratings board" where the board feels such an exception would better reflect the sensibilities of American parents. A couple of exceptions were noted: rare films such as Guilty by Suspicion were allowed as many as nine uses of the word; probably because of the precedent set in the 1970s by politically important films such as All the President's Men. All the President's Men was once rated R but then re-rated PG on appeal. It is a common misconception that if a movie uses fuck in a nonsexual context more than once, it will automatically receive an R rating. In reality, PG-13 movies are routinely allowed two or three uses. Some movies such as Valkyrie, I, Robot, and The Sum of All Fears each have fuck said once, but still received the PG-13 Rating. But there have been two extreme circumstances so far: Gunner Palace has 42 uses of the word, 2 used sexually, and The Hip Hop Project has 17 uses. Both films were rated PG-13 on appeal from an R rating. Precedent for this dates back to the early days of the system, in which an independent film called "Saturday Morning" (a documentary including interviews with youth) was allowed many extra uses of the word to accommodate its documentary nature without restricting its primary audience. (See Farber's book, described below, for documentation of the "Saturday Morning" fact.)
- A reference to drugs, such as marijuana, usually gets a movie a PG-13 rating at a minimum. A well known example of an otherwise PG movie getting a PG-13 for a drug reference (momentary, along with brief language) is Whale Rider. The film contained only mild profanity but received a PG-13 because of a scene where drug paraphernalia were briefly visible. Critic Roger Ebert criticized the MPAA for the rating and called it "a wild overreaction."
- A graphic or explicit scene of illegal drug use will earn a film at least a PG-13 rating (such as Ray, where Ray Charles is depicted using heroin and marijuana) and, especially in the case of hard drugs, even an R rating. In rare cases, extremely graphic scenes of hard drug use will get a film an NC-17 (see Bad Lieutenant, rated NC-17 "for sexual violence, strong sexual situations & dialogue, graphic drug use.")
- In May 2007, the MPAA announced that depictions of cigarette smoking would be considered in a film's rating. On a side note, Universal Studios has a policy on depictions of tobacco. Starting April 16, 2007, they presume that no smoking incidents appear in youth-rated (G, PG, PG-13) films, and that if there is such an incident, a "health warning" that usually states "THIS FILM CONTAINS DEPICTIONS OF TOBACCO CONSUMPTION" will appear on any marketing material, DVD packaging, end credits, etc. Walt Disney Pictures no longer allows smoking in its movies, or at least in its newer movies, as 101 Dalmatians was released uncut on DVD after Disney banned smoking in its films despite Cruella de Vil being portrayed as a fanatic smoker.
- If a film contains strong sexual content, it usually receives at least an R rating. The film Lost in Translation contained a scene in a strip club that had brief topless nudity while the song " Fuck the Pain Away" by Peaches played in the background. The scene was brief and the rest of the film had PG-13 level content, but the film still received an R rating. In general, films containing female nudity receive an automatic R rating. In the case of I Capture the Castle, a shot of a topless woman got the film an R rating "for brief nudity". In many other countries with a similar ratings system (such as the UK, Australia, and Canada), the film received an equivalent of G or PG. However, there are many films including buttock and/or breast nudity (and in some cases, genital nudity) that are rated PG-13 or less. A few examples:
Adn actually why a movie is Pg13 and R rated, is thanks to the board of guys, who say if is pg 13 or R rated, there is a votation and they decide, that why i have wtached a bunch of movie with gay sex as pg 13 and other with gay sex being rated r, i think is something about who the actors are.
- Shirtless men are allowed in G-rated films, while topless women usually earn at least a PG-13. Before the adaptation of the PG-13 rating, topless women could be seen in several PG-rated films such as some of the ones mentioned above.. Even after the PG-13 rating had been implemented, topless women have been featured in PG-rated films, but generally in documentaries that depict it in a cultural or scientific context, such as in Babies. If a film contains male rear nudity, it is more likely to be given a lower rating than if the nudity were female. Male nudity is generally regarded as ribald (i.e. mooning) or natural, while female nudity is generally regarded as sexual. When it comes to exposed genitalia, there appears to be a double standard that allows male genitals to be shown much more often and more graphically than female genitals. Some films containing full-frontal male nudity have received PG and PG-13 ratings, such as The Cider House Rules (PG-13), in which a male migrant worker takes a shower and his genitalia are visible for a few seconds, though the scene is very brief and not in a sexual context. Films containing male or female full-frontal nudity usually earn an R rating, or possibly NC-17 if depicted in sexual situations. Many R-rated films have male frontal nudity such as Boogie Nights, Jackass: The Movie, Jackass: Number Two, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, Kinsey, Sideways, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, The Life of Brian, Watchmen, Zack and Miri Make a Porno and many more. While many films show female full-frontal nudity, in nearly every case, only the pubic hair is seen and the actual vulva is not seen. The end result is that male genitals are far more prevalent than female genitals in R-rated films. R-rated movies have also been allowed to show erect penises, such as in Bruno, The Hangover, and The Departed, while no R-rated film has ever shown aroused (wet) female genitals, suggesting a double standard.
- Films that have legitimate historical or educational value are often granted leniency. Some have argued that the level of violence in Saving Private Ryan merited an NC-17 rating, but that the film was given leniency because it was a historical war movie (However, in both the UK and Ireland the film received a 15 certificate, in New Zealand the film received an R16 rating and in Australia an MA15+ rating after an appeal against the initial R rating). This argument also came up when The Passion of the Christ was released without cuts, with an R rating.
- Violence which includes bloodshed will usually receive a PG-13 or R rating, though in extreme cases bloodshed violence may receive an NC-17 rating. The film Scream was originally rated NC-17 for "graphic horror violence and gore" but under appeal by director Wes Craven, it was changed to R with some overly graphic content cut out. It does depend on how long the blood is actually shown and how much of it. Bloodless violence will usually be rated PG or PG-13 (e.g. Alien vs. Predator; the unrated version contains the same content as the PG-13-rated version in terms of violence. However, every violent scene includes bloodshed. The same thing happened with Pearl Harbor, in which explicit gunshot wounds and violence were added to get an R rating on the director's cut DVD.) The anime Appleseed has PG-13 level violence. However, there was a scene of a mecha crushing a man's head, with resulting blood. The MPAA rated it R for "some violence", but the scene was rather undetailed compared to other films of its type, like The Matrix. (In the UK, Appleseed was rated 12A and in Spain it was rated 13.) There Will Be Blood had no explicit violence, but the MPAA also rated this film R for "some violence". There is a scene in which a man is beaten with a bowling pin and a small pool of blood is shown onscreen as a result.
- Ratings criteria are intended to reflect changing norms and compromises between the diverse needs and rights of various interests in a large and complex modern society. Inevitably, the private views of the Ratings Board members will affect what is deemed acceptable for children to watch, determined in part by the culture of the time. Therefore, an evaluation of ratings criteria must specify what year or approximate period of time is being referred to, when modeling the standards relevant to each film classification. For example, according to This Film Is Not Yet Rated, films depicting homosexual sex scenes have been treated much more harshly than those depicting similar heterosexual scenes.
Also they care more about sex that violence, then if Deadpool goe in a killing rampage naked = R
If he goes in a killing rampoage with his suit is = Pg 13
Also, if you have some actor that they like or famous actors, super famous director, it means is going to be PG 13, then if you have Brad Pitt ihaving sex with geroger Clooney killing 100 million guys = pg13
If i and another guys kill 30, without having sex = Nc17.
The Rating System is pure bollshi@$t.
"I watched a documentary on the rating process. It bureacratic bullshit. You're right. The rules are there but they aren't followed.
Return of the King has the highest on screen death toll with 836 deaths and is a pg13 movie.
just to be safe, id stick with the R rateing. i mean personally id like to see some high quality gore and healing factor action.
Why does people belive R = Good and Pg13 = bad?
It makes no sense, i have watched so many R rated movies, most of them, for the most annoying reasons.
Gore?
Damn it guys, some times, you care more about,how a movie look, that about the storyline and character development, if the movie is R rating and have pure gore, and none character development, you will be angry and mad.
I mean, Deadpool is not a gore style character, i mean, i have watched more violent character that Pool, and his movie were good pg13 movies.
I mean i Liked Predators for his action, but the storyline sucked and the character development sucked, at the end, the movie obtain bad critics and made a lot of maney, for the wrong reasons.
At the end, the movie sucked, worst since The Expendables, was a better film, better character development and better storyline.
jese calm down, were just saying we like deadpool so much, we want him to have the best of both worlds. and can you really get the best with PG? no! sure you can have good, or even great, but to get the best he would need an R.
i mean come on, his main weapons are katanas! big swords made for the sole purpose of cutting through flesh and bone like butter! we don't want it to end up like some of his comics nowadays where he has all these deadly weapons THAT HE NEVER USES. he's not spiderman, he doesn't go around beating people unconscious with his fists and then leaving them for the authorities, he's an insane brutal killer and i believe that the movie should be able to accurately show that.
"I want a hard R myself. Some of Deadpools best moments involved him casually shooting people in the face. Plus, if it's not R how can we get the Bea Arthur/Deadpool sex scene? "
LOL
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BANG!
It should deff be rated R but you know they'll want to make it pg-13. Every Marvel movie except punisher war zone was -13 and that movie was awesome. And since Disney bought the rights to Marvel you know they'll dumb it down if make it at all.
i think they can make a good Deadpool movie with it being PG-13
though for the full effect of Deadpool it should be R (though they shouldn't make it R just to make it R)
Punisher War Zone was PG13, until some dumb guy decide to put to super violent deads, so it get R rated and no one watched the film, even when it was awesome.
PG 13 works, is not Kiddies movies i mean, the most violent movie of all times was pg13.
seriously though, what parent isn't okay with their kids watching an r-rated movie, but lets their kid read a deadpool comic. really?
parent:no! you can't watch this movie. go read a gore filled, violent, sexually content filled comic book, complete with bad language.
" @Foolkiller: Deadpool comics have never been THAT gorey (Way did add some though). And other than Max they barely ever have ANY sex in them. "sex as in sexual/adult content.
" @Abnormally Warm Guy said:Sex Jokes, that is cheapo even for Deadpool." @Foolkiller: Deadpool comics have never been THAT gorey (Way did add some though). And other than Max they barely ever have ANY sex in them. "sex as in sexual/adult content. "
Deadpool comics are not R rated, if the movies is going to be like the comics, is going to be PG13, not PG.
Also the musta violent movie of all times is PG 13, the Lord of The Ring The Return of the King is the most violent movie ever.
In England, we have the rating "15" which I think wouldn't be bad (teenagers love Deadpool and I don't think they're going to want to go and watch the film with their parents) although PG-13 is fine for me (I'm not a die-hard Deadpool fan though so I don't know absolutely everything Wade's been up to).
I dont see any reason why it should be R Rated.
A real reason.
As long as they focus in Deadpool, its character driven, the comedy is well done, nothing of Tina Fey era bullshit comedy movies that are nothing but stand up, i mean Peten Sellers, Monty Python comedy movies that were comedy movies.
Edgar Wright is the only director that know how to direct comedy this day and also action scenes.
The tone is right and the plot is right, they can play.
The video that was online wasnt that violent, sexed up and its great.
People forget superheroes movies that are r rated fail to make money.
Also they fail to notice they said the same on Die Hard and the R Rater Die Hard was awfully bad, main reason it was r rated.
The comedy was stupid, the gore was pointless and the action was so damn boring.
Rating has nothing to do with how good a movie is, as long the action dont suck, the comedy is funny and the character is spot on, there is no need to get gore and sexual material, i mean Deadpool could play with the whole fact he has to keep the thing PG 13, blur things and do the beeps and all that, i mean as long as the movie does an Scott Pilgrim and isnt afraid to be a comic book made into a movie it would work.
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