@x_zayd_x: lol I just read that wall of text and it's nothing but links to a fan-maintained wiki and uncited claims. Get back to me when you've actually read a comic book, because I'd rather not waste my time going over basic feats which are easily available on the internet for anyone to look up. If you're actually interested in learning, you can visit my Spider-Man Respect Thread. If not, continue wanking yourself off to Iron Man. I don't care either way.
Some advice for next time:
It's probably not a good idea to debate against someone who knows more about both sides of the debate than you know about either.
Primary sources (ie. comics themselves) are a lot more reliable than secondary or tertiary sources of information (random videos, wikis, etc).
Calling your debating opponent a "kid" accomplishes nothing more than infantilizing yourself.
So you yourself don't know it and just made an assumption ? Yikes
So I check it out, and it invalidates the list even further. It says that the heroes were ranked by Marvel.com's social and editorial team (so the people who run Marvel's twitter page basically), and get this - the heroes were ranked based on "their overall influence and importance in comics". LMAO! They weren't even ranking the heroes based on intelligence.
So, not only is the list made by a non-authoritative source, it's also not even ranking heroes based on their intelligence. It's utterly useless.
Not even remotely close to Tony's though. Iron Man's suits are stronger, faster, more energy, more durable than anything Peter has ever created by a country mile.
Says the person who doesn't even know what suits Peter has created. Peter's suits could probably beat anything Iron Man has except the absolute best armors like Extremis, Bleeding Edge, Superior, etc.
Ofc I did coz I know 90% of these things are better than anything Peter has ever created. And the funny thing its only a respect thread of 4 armours, he has hundreds of them.
Well those inventions weren't even related to armors so that's hardly relevant. I also proved they aren't as good as stuff Peter has made, so RIP your argument.
Ok by that logic EVERY SINGLE THING PETER HAS CREATED IS UNIMPRESSIVE
By that logic, Tony Stark doesn't even deserve to be called a scientist or engineer.
No, a portal to anti matter negative zone, what has Peter built ? Webshooters ?
Yes, and the negative zone is another dimension, as you would know if you read comics. And, as you would know if you read my post, Peter has literally created tech for interdimensional travel as well.
We're talking about the main continuity (616) dipshit, most of things you're using aren't even from 616 universe.That's like me using Sorcerer Supreme Tony Stark in an argument.
....lol your lack of reading comprehension makes this even more fun. 616 Peter was teaching 1610 Tony Stark about time travel and interdimensional travel. They were talking because Peter traveled between the two universes.
You basically tried to low ball it at first and then admitted "no, Peter can't even do that" , exactly !
Spider-Man doesn't have "nano-cameras", he has far better tech like nano-spider tracers which can be implanted subdermally and transmit audio and location data.
No, it wasn't. Just coz a random person says it was doesn't mean it is, show the scan of Tony saying Peter helped him ? Oh wait it doesn't exist coz Peter didn't do shit.
That's not a random person, it's Mary Jane aka. Peter's wife, which you would know if you read comics. I also didn't see Tony Stark correcting her.
And all of them needed each other, not Peter.
No, they were working together since they were the evil masterminds of the whole Civil War event, which Peter wanted nothing to do with.
Coz you're stupid. The fact that it was Tony who did rebuilt asgard alone makes him way more superior
He didn't rebuild it alone, as you would know if you read the comics. Asgard is also a medieval city, it's hardly high tech or impressive to build it.
Yes, he did
Proof?
Spider man in general doesn't have anything comparable
Once again you're wrong, but I guess you must be getting used to that now, huh?
No it can't. It can only create 3D hard light HOLOGRAMS of other tech.Talk about manipulation.
What are you talking about? It literally recreated Captain America's energy shield, as you would know if you read the comics or even the scans I so nicely posted for you.
Whose idea was it ? Exactly. Just coz he hired labourers for it doesn't make it unimpressive
It's unimpressive because he just asked Shi'ar people to build him solar panels. We have solar panels IRL too.
He was
No, he wasn't. It was Maya Hansen, as you'd know if you read the comics. All Tony did was modify it later on.
With major help from Tony
Tony didn't even work on that at all. As you'd know if you read the comics.
Test scores doesn't equate to overall intelligence
They do when it's an intelligence test.
None of them are remotely comparable especially when you've resorted to using facts from alternate continuity
All of you responses are "change details + add the words "so basically" (with lowballing) + coming back with either unimpressive Peter parker feats or straight up from alternate universes.
I've just posted some of Peter's less impressive feats since you've yet to shown anything remotely impressive for Tony. One of your feats was Starktech toasters lmao.
He only complimented Peter for being generous to him on his face. But for Stark, he has said to multiple important people that he knows Tony is actually smarter than him. Notice how Reed and Stark were the only ones that he name dropped to Eternity. Why didn't he name anyone else ? Its coz those are the only two people smarter than him. Fact !
Wait, but your gospel list says there are 4 people smarter than him? Which one's wrong then? Anyways, Ultron said Pym is smarter than Stark, so GG. Eternity only agreed that Reed is smarter than Pym, not Tony - as you'd know if you read the comics.
1. Show me scans him quoting those words that Pym is smarter than Stark
I already did.
"In the most recent Iron Man comic, Tony Stark even made a whole virtual universe called "eScape" to amplify the human experience which also allowed its users to go anywhere, become anyone and do anything."
I didn't ignore it, I chuckled to myself at how unimpressive that feat is and moved on. If that's the best you have for Tony, I don't know why I put him on this list in the first place. Unlike you, though, I've read tons of Iron Man comics, and know of his actually impressive intelligence feats, which is why I've ranked him so high.
Why did you ignore 40% of those feats in fact ?
Because they sucked. You might as well bring up the Starktech toasters again.
Because they're dumb and contradicted by the comics that are actually published by Marvel. Comics >> website >>>>> fan-made wiki. It's funny how your argument solely rests on the latter 2 sources instead of anything reliable. Though I guess it isn't surprising considering that you've never picked up a comic book in your life.
Seriously just admit the facts and stop the Spider-wank, absolutely nothing is in your favour.
Hey man, Iron Man isn't as good as you want him to be. He isn't smarter than Spider-Man, and he most certainly can't beat Rune King Thor like you want him to. It's okay, CV isn't everything. Go outside sometime, maybe talk to some real people. They might be able to help you remove that gigantic stick up your butt.
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