Silver Age Superman vs Thor: Slugfest

your aware that silver age superman = pre-crisis superman. this is a mismatch

@cahddz: Pre Crisis Superman has vaporized entire stars, something hundreds of thousands of times larger than a planet, even while millions of miles away by breathing on them.

Proof?

Ok

Here he casually blows out a star millions of miles away.

Never says anything about the star being millions of miles away. That star also looks extremely tiny.

Here he again blows out a star with a casual puff of breath.

Superman is clearly exerting himself there and it states that it took long minutes to achieve that.

He has a couple other feats like moving stars and planets by blowing on them and destroying a solar system with a sneeze.

Thor should be more than capable of replicating those feats. They aren't anything special.

These aren’t even his high end feats btw.

@kanyecosby: @cahddz: Lets not forget the sneeze

@cahddz: Lol the reason why the star looks extremely tiny is because it’s far away . That why I said it’s millions of miles away. It‘s sort of like an astronaut being in space.

It didn't say that it was millions of miles away and it certainly doesn't look like it.

Just because the stars look small, doesn’t mean that that’s they’re actual size.

Need some more context to back that up.

Because the star looks small in comparison to Superman, that must mean that it is millions of miles away, and even then that’s lowballing it. Our sun is 93 million miles away. The closest star to our solar system is light years away.

It doesn't have to mean that it was millions of miles away. You just made that up.

In the second scan, Superman literally says that he isn’t even out of breath after doing that.

And yet it still took time for him to accomplish that. Obviously, it wasn't easy for him.

Thor has absolutely no feats on this level, not even close.

He sure does.

It’s completely baseless to say that he could do them.

Thor can destroy planets on his base-level, I don't see why he couldn't if he's 20 times more powerful.

Also, I don’t know where you’re getting this assertion that Thor can destroy 20 planets with one blow. He has never done that before. He only destroyed one planet while in a Warrior Madness mode.

Also, destroying a solar system with a sneeze is way above destroying 20 planets. First of all, our solar system is billions of times larger than the actual planets inside of it,

The Solar System that Superman destroyed definitely wasn't as large as our own.

so being able to destroy the entire thing is much more impressive than just destroying 20 planets. Secondly, Superman did that with a sneeze, not even a punch. If a sneeze can destroy a solar system, imagine what a punch could do.

Pre Crisis Superman has oneshotted a machine which was no selling the Big Bang

Pre Crisis Superman also has feats where he has been unable to push a moon. What's so impressive about him? Why are you treating his 'high-end' feats as things he can casually accomplish? I can counter that by throwing Thor fighting the Celestials at you. That's way above Superman's pay-grade.

, punched someone across the distance of the entire universe at quintillions of times the speed of light, traded blows with a guy that created a universe, and altered timelines with his punches. He literally as a child dragged a galaxy worth of planets effortlessly across the universe. As a child, he threw a neutron star one billion light years away into another galaxy. Thor has nothing on this level. He’s less than an ant in comparison to this version of Superman. This version of Thor would have trouble even beating Post Crisis Superman, let alone Pre Crisis.

This is not even getting into the fact that Superman has a massive combat speed advantage.

When you're durable enough to withstand attacks from Celestials, Galactus, and Odin, speed doesn't matter.

Lol OP is clearly a fanboy who is trying his best to lowball on-panel feats and clearly has a winner in mind while arguing for Thor, which is not allowed.

Superman one-shots.

@cahddz: Silver age Superman moved all the planets from one dying universe to another healthier Universe at once and was flying MFTL the entire time. He has gone so fast that he was about to destroy the universe simply because he was moving too fast.

He can punch people backward or forward in time. Or just punch them to the other side of the universe. All of this is way beyond 20 planets. Also his sneeze destroyed a solar system. It's vastly better than Thor swinging Mjolnir and Destroying 20 planets lol. It's a damn sneeze. He also literally flew to another unviserse in mere seconds to sneeze.

Thor would be weaker and dramtically too slow to even perceive him.

@cahddz: Yeah, I did and it is around 12 billion times weaker Than Silver Age Superman.

@cahddz: Silver age Superman has reacted to a laser being fired at Earth move the Earth out of the way of the laser. Show me toward doing something 150th is impressive is that like for reaction speed in moving something too heavy and less than a millisecond. That's not even like one millionth of what Superman is capable of still. It's a mismatch.

@cahddz: Show me Thor moving 100 planets at once even while flying faster than light.

You can't so the debate is over. I seriously hope you are joking with all this crap. Thor is not anywhere near SA Superman even with a 20 times amp.

@cahddz: Ok. He barely ever does it and he almost never uses it properly. Show me some amazing feats of his Time Stop Prowess specifically against people that are in the top 5 fastest people in Marvel. I'm talking the Runner, Makkari etc.

@cahddz: I don't do CaVs but you should challenge someone that does. I'm like 10000000 percebt sure their character will win. Although the thing about CaVs is it's who debated better so you coulf still win but based on what I'm seeing so far I doubt it.

You haven't so far. So show some feats that actually prove something. I haven't seen anything from you.

@cahddz: You still have to show Thor moving multiple planets while travelling MFTL. Even if you do SA Superman is still literally millions to billions of times better. Show Thor Time Stopping someone that is as Fast or Faster than Wally West Flash mid rush. Show Thor tanking a physcial attack that Knocked him from one side of the Universe to the other?

<p><span data-message-user="reply"><a href="/profile/cahddz/" rel="" data-target="" data-nofollow="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="cahddz" data-mce-search-selected-title="" data-message="reply">@cahddz</a></span>: C&rsquo;mon dude, now you&rsquo;re just lowballing. The whole point of Superman destroying the star in the first place was to impress the guy in the scan with super feats. What do you think makes more sense, that Superman destroyed a star in order to impress him, or that he destroyed some type of tiny human sized star? If the star was just small and closeup, it would have burned the guy in the space suit to a crisp because of how close he is to it. A star the size of a human would have collapsed into a black hole anyway. It&rsquo;s just common sense that an object from far away, especially while depicted in space will look much smaller. I got millions miles because that&rsquo;s a realistic if not lowballing estimation of how far the star would have had to be in the feat. You know how ridiculous I would sound if in the scan of Thor damaging a moon thousands of miles away with the shockwave of his attacks, I said that the moon was actually just a small rock, because it doesn&rsquo;t look very big?</p><p>First of all the Warrior Madness is supposedly a ten times amp, not a twenty times one. Secondly, that&rsquo;s just a statement. Thor barely has any feats to prove that the Warrior Madness amps him even by 10 times.</p><p>Why would the solar system be smaller than ours? Our solar system is at best an average sized one. Even if it was smaller, Superman would have still had to destroy the star and the planets of the system with a sneeze, something way above Thor&rsquo;s paygrade.</p><p>I&lsquo;m pretty sure that in that moon feat you&rsquo;re talking about with Superman, it was actually a planet he struggled to move, and that was only because he had just been exposed to a form of kryptonite. Superman has already casually thrown around and played baseball with moons with Supergirl. </p><p>The difference between Superman and Thor is that he has better quantifiable feats, and they&lsquo;re much more consistent. If you want to bring in low showings, I can talk about how Thor was knocked out by a mortar shell.</p><p>The attacks that Thor has tanked from those beings aren&rsquo;t quantifiable. It isn&rsquo;t any more relevant than feats of Post Crisis Superman tanking attacks from Soulfire Darkseid or attacks from Emperor Joker. We don&rsquo;t know how much power Thor actually tanked in those feats. Those feats aren&rsquo;t going to help Thor who isn't even hypersonic in combat speed against a character that makes MFTL feats look like a joke.</p>

@cahddz: My post glitched out.

C’mon dude, now you’re just lowballing. The whole point of Superman destroying the star in the first place was to impress the guy in the scan with super feats. What do you think makes more sense, that Superman destroyed a star in order to impress him, or that he destroyed some type of tiny human sized star? If the star was just small and closeup, it would have burned the guy in the space suit to a crisp because of how close he is to it. A star the size of a human would have collapsed into a black hole anyway. It’s just common sense that an object from far away, especially while depicted in space will look much smaller. I got millions miles because that’s a realistic if not lowballing estimation of how far the star would have had to be in the feat. You know how ridiculous I would sound if in the scan of Thor damaging a moon thousands of miles away with the shockwave of his attacks, I said that the moon was actually just a small rock, because it doesn’t look very big?

First of all the Warrior Madness is supposedly a ten times amp, not a twenty times one. Secondly, that’s just a statement. Thor barely has any feats to prove that the Warrior Madness amps him even by 10 times.

Why would the solar system be smaller than ours? Our solar system is at best an average sized one. Even if it was smaller, Superman would have still had to destroy the star and the planets of the system with a sneeze, something way above Thor’s paygrade.

I‘m pretty sure that in that moon feat you’re talking about with Superman, it was actually a planet he struggled to move, and that was only because he had just been exposed to a form of kryptonite. Superman has already casually thrown around and played baseball with moons with Supergirl.

The difference between Superman and Thor is that he has better quantifiable feats, and they‘re much more consistent. If you want to bring in low showings, I can talk about how Thor was knocked out by a mortar shell.

The attacks that Thor has tanked from those beings aren’t quantifiable. It isn’t any more relevant than feats of Post Crisis Superman tanking the Source Wall explosion or attacks from Emperor Joker. We don’t know how much power Thor actually tanked in those feats. Those feats aren’t going to help Thor who isnt even hypersonic in combat speed against a character that makes MFTL feats look like a joke.

Don't need to.