what if supes made him flip? released the void then he is boned but i do agree that with his current state
and i say sentry is stronger then the current supes
he fought ww hulk to a standstill while average hulk threw supes to the moon
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you cant be talking about the time Superman fought Hulk back in the 70's or 80's... and Superman still won that fight... hell he took direct blows from Hulk like they were nothing...
Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point.
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole.
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole. "
dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet
Yeah. Lots of things are physically impossible in the comic book universe. It's technically impossible for matter and information to move faster than light, but Superman still flies faster than light. Like here, Superman flies Darkseid to the sun in seconds, when it takes light 8 minutes to travel between Earth and the sun.
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole. "
dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet "
It's the suspension of disbelief, a fictional story shouldn't be too unrealistic or it get's rejected. The Suspension of Disbelief can be stretched farther if the reader expects such surrealism, and the levels to which it can be stretched to are completely subjective to the reader.
" dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet "
She's not a dude, and she's going to kill you for calling her one. Run man. "
I have a minor case of split personality. If the therapist was right, one side was more calm and logical than the other, which was silly and nonsensical.
Sentry has been beaten by people weaker than him before like She-Hulk and Human Torch. No one far weaker than Superman has ever beaten him without kryptonite.
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole. "
dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet "
It's the suspension of disbelief, a fictional story shouldn't be too unrealistic or it get's rejected. The Suspension of Disbelief can be stretched farther if the reader expects such surrealism, and the levels to which it can be stretched to are completely subjective to the reader. "
it does not matter lol it's a comic, i mean does having a being that is pure energy who eats planets and turns people into different beings with a power thats cosmic, or a force that takes the shape of a bird is given to a someone and it lets one person holds a universe in there ahnd, does it make sense that a being who is inside the body of someone who becomes the wrath of god make sense? no lol it's a comic
made every person on earth forgot he existed for years overloaded the absorbing man
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Bringing the dead back to life is no longer considered a true impossibility. It's doable just so long as there is enough of the brain survives to keep the conciousness intact, otherwise, that person remains dead, but a person who acts exactly like him replaces him.
he is afraid of using his full power in most circumstances or he will kill everyone on earth the only time he has used close to his full power is when he fought hulk and im sure the human torch and she-hulk couldnt fight him then
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole. "
dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet "
It's the suspension of disbelief, a fictional story shouldn't be too unrealistic or it get's rejected. The Suspension of Disbelief can be stretched farther if the reader expects such surrealism, and the levels to which it can be stretched to are completely subjective to the reader. "
it does not matter lol it's a comic, i mean does having a being that is pure energy who eats planets and turns people into different beings with a power thats cosmic, or a force that takes the shape of a bird is given to a someone and it lets one person holds a universe in there ahnd, does it make sense that a being who is inside the body of someone who becomes the wrath of god make sense? no lol it's a comic "
An Energy being who eats planets is more acceptable than touching something that by definition cannot be touched.
Again, that's physically impossible, the black hole doesn't have any pressure unless you are inside of the black hole itself. And regardless of strength or durability you'd still be stretched out and torn apart by the black hole. "
dude.......don't bring logic into comics there buddy, you also can't breath in space yet "
It's the suspension of disbelief, a fictional story shouldn't be too unrealistic or it get's rejected. The Suspension of Disbelief can be stretched farther if the reader expects such surrealism, and the levels to which it can be stretched to are completely subjective to the reader. "
it does not matter lol it's a comic, i mean does having a being that is pure energy who eats planets and turns people into different beings with a power thats cosmic, or a force that takes the shape of a bird is given to a someone and it lets one person holds a universe in there ahnd, does it make sense that a being who is inside the body of someone who becomes the wrath of god make sense? no lol it's a comic "
An Energy being who eats planets is more acceptable than touching something that by definition cannot be touched. "
ok you see my point though, don't bring logic into a debate about comics since they are not supposed to make sense, it's fantesy not fantesy based on logic
Seriously people why is this even a debate? Superman in a fight with 3 Superman clones?? Superman has farrrr greater feats than any of the other 3. Sentry is only good in theory, his feats are not nearly as impressive as Marvel tries to make him out to be. Gladiator is dependent on his confidence. Hyperion is not even worth discussing. This battle is essentially Coke vs. New Coke vs. New Coke vs. Crystal Pepsi. Plus I'm pretty sure it's been done before.
@Hulkstrongerthan1: care to say why exactly? I dunno bring some LOGIC to your statement.
Anyways.... Meh, for all we know the Galactus story could be just something spidey made up. And even if so, Supes can still kick his ass. :P
Hyperion the walking lawsuit I've never really read about and I really wish I could get my hands on the Quasar comic in which Hyperion and Gladiator duke it out.
But yeah, Glad and Hyps dies first. Sentry will put up a good fight but in the end will fall.
And about the Hulk vs Superman crossovers.....
First one, after standing his ground Superman managed to take all of Hulk's blows as if they were nothing(And don't give me that "OH HE WASN'T ANGRY" or that BS. He was, he tried, he failed.
Second one from DC vs Marvel(which got me back into reading comics). Superman defeats Hulk once again.
Third one, the one ALL of the hulk fanboys like to bring up. Hulk breaking a pre-crisis Superman's grip. You guys do realize Superman is afraid to go all out and at times underestamates his oppenets right? If Superman knew how Strong he was, he'd probably do what he did in the first battle.
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat.
People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress.
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat. People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress. "
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat. People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress. "
remember logic=not good in comics "
That's not true, because it's all based on logic and suspension of disbelief. If it wasn't good in comics, people wouldn't be able to complain about PIS, which in turn depends on suspension of disbelief, which in turn, is based on a logical understanding of the fictional universe.
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat. People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress. "
remember logic=not good in comics "
That's not true, because it's all based on logic and suspension of disbelief. If it wasn't good in comics, people wouldn't be able to complain about PIS, which in turn depends on suspension of disbelief, which in turn, is based on a logical understanding of the fictional universe. "
PIS is much different, it's when the person has shown to be able to do things far beyond what he shows limits to, that does not have a basic of logical sense, again how logical is it that a being made of pure energy eats planets? or that a ring can make anything it wants if the person has enough will power? it is not logical it's a comic and it's fantesy, if i want logical sense i will go watch a court case or the history channel
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat. People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress. "
remember logic=not good in comics "
That's not true, because it's all based on logic and suspension of disbelief. If it wasn't good in comics, people wouldn't be able to complain about PIS, which in turn depends on suspension of disbelief, which in turn, is based on a logical understanding of the fictional universe. "
PIS is much different, it's when the person has shown to be able to do things far beyond what he shows limits to, that does not have a basic of logical sense, again how logical is it that a being made of pure energy eats planets? or that a ring can make anything it wants if the person has enough will power? it is not logical it's a comic and it's fantesy, if i want logical sense i will go watch a court case or the history channel "
It's logic based on the established rules of the universe. It's not logical based on the real world, but based on the groundrules set up in the fictional story, it's all logical. PIS falls into the same category of what's been said. If Mole Man turns around and defeats the Silver Surfer in one blow, people would cry, PIS, correct? Why? Based on what has been established about Mole Man and Silver Surfer, we know that Mole Man would be way out of his league and it would be illogical for such a thing to even come up in a plot. If ground rules have been set up for characters and the universe they reside in, then it's based on logic, albeit logic stretched to provide entertainment.
" Well technically lifting, much less flying with the great pyramid of giza would be impossible if you were only the size of a human, you wouldn't be able to get the leverage to lift the whole thing, and would only succeed in tearing out chunks of it, and even if you lifted it, the poor structure would collapse all around you as all of it's the enormous pressure of it's mass and weight are being focused onto one small point. "
The aura around Superman's body that contributes to his invulnerability surrounds objects he lifts so they don't tear apart from the stress, that's the only reason why he was capable of the feat. People also turn around and say the Sentry isn't strong enough to lift a falling Helicarrier without the aid of Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel and use that as a reason why Sentry is "nowhere near" Superman in strength, even though it would be physically impossible based on Sentry's powerset to keep objects from tearing from stress in comparison to Superman, who has a plot device to compensate for said stress. "
remember logic=not good in comics "
That's not true, because it's all based on logic and suspension of disbelief. If it wasn't good in comics, people wouldn't be able to complain about PIS, which in turn depends on suspension of disbelief, which in turn, is based on a logical understanding of the fictional universe. "
PIS is much different, it's when the person has shown to be able to do things far beyond what he shows limits to, that does not have a basic of logical sense, again how logical is it that a being made of pure energy eats planets? or that a ring can make anything it wants if the person has enough will power? it is not logical it's a comic and it's fantesy, if i want logical sense i will go watch a court case or the history channel "
It's logic based on the established rules of the universe. It's not logical based on the real world, but based on the groundrules set up in the fictional story, it's all logical. PIS falls into the same category of what's been said. If Mole Man turns around and defeats the Silver Surfer in one blow, people would cry, PIS, correct? Why? Based on what has been established about Mole Man and Silver Surfer, we know that Mole Man would be way out of his league and it would be illogical for such a thing to even come up in a plot. If ground rules have been set up for characters and the universe they reside in, then it's based on logic, albeit logic stretched to provide entertainment. "
that is not the point, when you bring in physics to the comic verse and say this could not happen for so and so reasons your trying to base the idea that the comic follows the same laws that we do.
^King Hyperion would beat the hell out of superman. void sentry has molecular manipulation he would turn superman into dirt or just burst him into a thousand pieces. he beat moleculeman who is far above superman
Idk about Hyperion, but lately sentry has been getting pretty powerful. in the siege comic he ripped Ares in half and then destroyed all of Asgard. His slipping in and out of the Void mindset doesn't help wither, because he's pretty much crazy. I know almost zilch about Gladiator thought.
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