If Momo can absorb team, they win handily. If not Isshiki mid-high dif. Obito is kinda fodder here seeing as Momo handled adult Naruto and Sasuke better than Obito handled EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto which is an absurd power difference. He gets stomped very hard though he can make a difference in this fight if he gives himself to Momo to be absorbed lol. Toneri is fodder as well but not as much as Obito and gets stomped unless, like I said he offers his body to Momo to be absorbed. Fused Momo should put up a good fight against Isshiki but loses. Isshiki mid difs him. Now Fused Momo if he’s allowed to consume his teammates should take out isshiki handily since the boost he got from devouring Kinshiki was huge. Based on that a full power Toneri should give him a boost of a similar degree. Obito should also offer a large boost. Enough for him imo to handily beat isshiki and by that point I don’t think any Naruto character can take him out 1v1.
Momo carries the team hard. Toneri will be of little help, juubito gets one-shotted. If momo's allowed to fuse, he wins handily. If not, then high diff.
Isshiki is loses this fight. He can't put down Obito Any Jutsu he uses can Get absorbed by Momoshiki, Toneri can literally Drain his Powers. He has no Counter to TSB.
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
Didn't he catch him off guard? similar to say zetsu vs madara?
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
Didn't he catch him off guard? similar to say zetsu vs madara?
Nah not similar Madara was Paralyzed and zetsu used his chakra to bring Kaguya back while taking over madaras body and Absorbing I.T chakra was too fast, Kaguyas Betrayal caught him off Guard and she Stomped him he had near 0 chakra left, indicating that he had fought her and lost
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
Didn't he catch him off guard? similar to say zetsu vs madara?
Nah not similar Madara was Paralyzed and zetsu used his chakra to bring Kaguya back while taking over madaras body and Absorbing I.T chakra was too fast, Kaguyas Betrayal caught him off Guard and she Stomped him he had near 0 chakra left, indicating that he had fought her and lost
it blatantly states pre-chakra fruit kaguya was weaker than momoshiki in the databooks lol. She obviously had to catch him isshiki off guard to defeat him. Before she absorbed the god tree/10 tails she probably wasn’t anything special in the Otsutsuki. Are you forgetting kaguya was the princess of the clan? Isshiki was probably built trust in her.
@alfa251122: But we know that the statement is false as she was preparing for the entire clan, and we know Momoshiki was only a Kage level tier in his Base, Pre-fruit Kaguya is probably Not that much weaker than Isshiki, but def stronger than Momoshiki because we know he was just arrogant and his feats are poor
@alfa251122: But we know that the statement is false as she was preparing for the entire clan, and we know Momoshiki was only a Kage level tier in his Base, Pre-fruit Kaguya is probably Not that much weaker than Isshiki, but def stronger than Momoshiki because we know he was just arrogant and his feats are poor
Doesn't matter if his feats are poor, It's blatantly stated that she couldn't beat momoshiki without preperation, No hyperboles, no BS. Her preparing for the clan doesn't really mean anything lol, you're a lazy reader.
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
Didn't he catch him off guard? similar to say zetsu vs madara?
Nah not similar Madara was Paralyzed and zetsu used his chakra to bring Kaguya back while taking over madaras body and Absorbing I.T chakra was too fast, Kaguyas Betrayal caught him off Guard and she Stomped him he had near 0 chakra left, indicating that he had fought her and lost
it blatantly states pre-chakra fruit kaguya was weaker than momoshiki in the databooks lol. She obviously had to catch him isshiki off guard to defeat him. Before she absorbed the god tree/10 tails she probably wasn’t anything special in the Otsutsuki. Are you forgetting kaguya was the princess of the clan? Isshiki was probably built trust in her.
that doesn't say she was Weaker. Sasuke's Hypothesis was proven Wrong when The moment They Stopped spamming Jutsu at Momoshiki He was never again presented as threat to them. Even KAges can stand up to them.
He is only a threat if you're Spamming Jutsu at him.
That is an Assumption. How would you know If Kaguya was special or not in the Otsutsuki clan? Especially when we have people like Urashiki who wasn't anything impressive Able to Stall Adult Sasuke.
I'll Say it again, I strongly agree that average Otsutsuki>Demi God tiers>>>Legendary Shinobi>>>Kages tiers>>>Average Shinobi.
You can't Assume She is Nothing special when She has been the Only confirmed Otsutsuki to be able to create and Destroy Her own space time at will.
Everyone Says BSM NAruto from the Last Naruto movie is greater than War arc RSM Teen Naruto Because of Feats. You can't Claim Adult Naruto with No Feats is Greater than The Last Naruto and War arc RSM Naruto. Momoshiki has no Feats of Being Kaguya Tier fighter, he only has Statements which People Like Obito and Madara have as well.
Kaguya Pre-Fruit being Able to Defeat Isshiki in combat where Isshiki sustained enough Damage to be Near Death puts Kaguya above Momoshiki.
The Team wins Because Obito is Peer to 1 eyed JJ Madara who is close to JJ Hagoromo in power. JJ Hagoromo had Post Fruit Kaguya tier powers.
Even those he has massively weaker Chakra than her. Isshiki just doesn't have any feats to put him on Post Fruit KAguya level.
He lost to Pre-Fruit Kaguya who didn't even absorb the ten tails yet. I give isshiki the Hand to hand, that Not going to be enough when Fighting TSB which he can't counter or touch.
Didn't he catch him off guard? similar to say zetsu vs madara?
Nah not similar Madara was Paralyzed and zetsu used his chakra to bring Kaguya back while taking over madaras body and Absorbing I.T chakra was too fast, Kaguyas Betrayal caught him off Guard and she Stomped him he had near 0 chakra left, indicating that he had fought her and lost
it blatantly states pre-chakra fruit kaguya was weaker than momoshiki in the databooks lol. She obviously had to catch him isshiki off guard to defeat him. Before she absorbed the god tree/10 tails she probably wasn’t anything special in the Otsutsuki. Are you forgetting kaguya was the princess of the clan? Isshiki was probably built trust in her.
that doesn't say she was Weaker. Sasuke's Hypothesis was proven Wrong when The moment They Stopped spamming Jutsu at Momoshiki He was never again presented as threat to them. Even KAges can stand up to them.
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This isn't sasuke's hypothesis, It's a direct statement referring to before kaguya absorbed the fruit. It's obvious sasuke's hypothesis was wrong lol.
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
Isshiki still has no way of getting Pass TSB.
How on earth does JJ hagoromo rival juubito? Juubito is a low god tier character... He was having a full on battle with non god tier characters, He's just a ten tails jinchuuriki, that's all. Madara has his abilities + limbo + 2 rinnegan + the god tree absorbed
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
Isshiki still has no way of getting Pass TSB.
How on earth does JJ hagoromo rival juubito? Juubito is a low god tier character... He was having a full on battle with non god tier characters, He's just a ten tails jinchuuriki, that's all. Madara has his abilities + limbo + 2 rinnegan + the god tree absorbed
Wrong 1 Rinnegan JJ Madara pre-god tree is slightly stronger than Juubito, Madara was really close to JJ Hagoromos Power, after Madara gained his Second rinnegan+God tree+Rinnesharingan he surpassed JJ Hagoromo and Was close to Kaguya, also Juubito is not the weakest god tier, his conflict is what made him look fodder
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
Isshiki still has no way of getting Pass TSB.
How on earth does JJ hagoromo rival juubito? Juubito is a low god tier character... He was having a full on battle with non god tier characters, He's just a ten tails jinchuuriki, that's all. Madara has his abilities + limbo + 2 rinnegan + the god tree absorbed
Obito wasn't Trying with Those Non-God tier characters. Then there is the Fact that Teen Rinnegan Sasuke's Best Stamina Feat is a Pre-Rikudou Enhanced Madara level feat.
This is immovable canon, Sasuke fought Naruto for 24 hours in their last Battle Something that EMS Madara did pre-Vote.
EMS Madara is fodder to JJ Obito, so it doesn't take much knowledge know that Obito wasn't trying with them when you figure that out.
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
Isshiki still has no way of getting Pass TSB.
How on earth does JJ hagoromo rival juubito? Juubito is a low god tier character... He was having a full on battle with non god tier characters, He's just a ten tails jinchuuriki, that's all. Madara has his abilities + limbo + 2 rinnegan + the god tree absorbed
Wrong 1 Rinnegan JJ Madara pre-god tree is slightly stronger than Juubito, Madara was really close to JJ Hagoromos Power, after Madara gained his Second rinnegan+God tree+Rinnesharingan he surpassed JJ Hagoromo and Was close to Kaguya, also Juubito is not the weakest god tier, his conflict is what made him look fodder
1.Kaguya
2.Madara
3Hagoromo
4.Isshiki
5.Jigen
6.Hamura
7. Juubito
8. Naruto and Sasuke
9.Fused Momoshiki
10. Final Form Urashiki
11. Toneri
12. DMS Kakashi
13. Night Gai
I didn't state anything about madara's ranking. I simply said juubito is weak. Naruto and sasuke is far above juubito, naruto alone was destroying madara pre god tree as a teen and without his chakra cloak. Oh yeah and isshiki fodderizes madara and hagoromo. He destroyed adult naruto and sasuke with relative ease whereas madara struggled against 2 teen weaker versions. Limbo would be a problem, but if isshiki has knowledge on it madara is done for. 1. Kaguya/isshiki 2. Isshiki/kaguya 3. Hagoromo 4. Madara 5. Jigen 6. Naruto + sasuke 7. Hamura 8. Fused momoshI 9. Toneri 10. DMS kakashi 11. final form urashiki 12. guy
I'd Rank pre-Fruit Kaguya and Momoshiki in the same Level. The only Thing Momoshiki has in his favor is the chance of Kaguya just Spamming Jutsu at him. From Coherent point of view none of that Made sense at all. why She would need Zetsu Army to fighting someone who was "Supposedly" Post Fruit Kaguya tier who we saw was able to handle 1000s of RSM Naruto clones.
Luckily you made it fused Momoshiki...so he is the most useful on the team. That team alone would Beat Isshiki. pre-Fruit KAguya without The Ten Tail Merged with her Battled Isshiki and was able to damage him and best him...JJ Obito who rivals JJ Hagoromo powers+ Fused Momoshiki and Toneri together should win this.
Isshiki still has no way of getting Pass TSB.
How on earth does JJ hagoromo rival juubito? Juubito is a low god tier character... He was having a full on battle with non god tier characters, He's just a ten tails jinchuuriki, that's all. Madara has his abilities + limbo + 2 rinnegan + the god tree absorbed
Wrong 1 Rinnegan JJ Madara pre-god tree is slightly stronger than Juubito, Madara was really close to JJ Hagoromos Power, after Madara gained his Second rinnegan+God tree+Rinnesharingan he surpassed JJ Hagoromo and Was close to Kaguya, also Juubito is not the weakest god tier, his conflict is what made him look fodder
1.Kaguya
2.Madara
3Hagoromo
4.Isshiki
5.Jigen
6.Hamura
7. Juubito
8. Naruto and Sasuke
9.Fused Momoshiki
10. Final Form Urashiki
11. Toneri
12. DMS Kakashi
13. Night Gai
I didn't state anything about madara's ranking. I simply said juubito is weak. Naruto and sasuke is far above juubito, naruto alone was destroying madara pre god tree as a teen and without his chakra cloak. Oh yeah and isshiki fodderizes madara and hagoromo. He destroyed adult naruto and sasuke with relative ease whereas madara struggled against 2 teen weaker versions. Limbo would be a problem, but if isshiki has knowledge on it madara is done for.
1. Kaguya/isshiki
2. Isshiki/kaguya
3. Hagoromo
4. Madara
5. Jigen
6. Naruto + sasuke
7. Hamura
8. Fused momoshI
9. Toneri
10. DMS kakashi
11. final form urashiki
12. guy
I know you didnt I said Madara wasnt that Much stronger when he was JJ Madara with 1Rinnegan Pre god tree, Naruto and Sasuke as adults will not beat Juubito, and No Teen Naruto was not destroying pre god tree Madara, Madara was exhausted missing his TSB and wasnt finished Healing/replinishing his chakra, Naruto and Sasuke as Teens are Far stronger than their adult Forms Hagoromo granted them seals that gave them a massive amp, after sealing Kaguya Hagoromo took that powerback, also Madara wasnt struggling against them he wasnt trying at all he was trying to capture them, but that failed so he went on and fufilled his dream the I.T and used Skyline Raindrops and Limbo as distractions, Teen Versions that Fought Madara and Kaguya are stronger than the Adults, and also Madara had Surpassed JJ Hagoromo and was close to Kaguyas power, also a Pre-fruit Kaguya stomped him, also you put guy above Juubito, How Madara wasnt trying against him at all he wanted to tank all of that power, Now as I said
1. Post-Fruit Kaguya/Revied Kaguya
2. Rinne-Sharingan Juudara
3. JJ Hagoromo
4. Isshiki
5. Jigen
6. Naruto+Sasuke
7. Hamura( Naruto and Ssuke together should put them above Hamura but individually NO)
That not a Fair Argument to make. Madara already had Gained Kaguya level Powers when he Made all Chakra one.
Kaguya having More chakra is obvious, but you can't Just Gloss off the Fact that Adult Naruto and Sasuke Feats are no where near what it was during their Prime RSM Teen level or Naruto from the Last.
Isshiki battled Kaguya, it wasn't a Sneak Attack. He was caught off Guard by Kaguya's Betrayal, which Even Momoshiki found Weird that she would Betray the clan.
No one seems to be able to Address the Fact that Isshiki was on the verge of death with near 0 chakra...that type of Stuff doesn't happen unless you were in a battle.
We judge Naruto the Last as superior to Naruto from the War because his feats are superior...
So, why make exceptions for Adult Naruto and sasuke who has 0 Feats that surpasses War arc or The LAst Naruto? that showing clear bias.
Madara and black zetsu Bit is a False equivalent Fallacy Argument.
Black zetsu Paralyzed Madara, who Stated he couldn't move. That is a Deus ex machina.
Kaguya never Paralyzed Isshiki, Nor was it a sneak attack, specially since Isshiki is a Sensory Type. Kaguya fought Isshiki while Pre-fruit, and defeated him and left him on the Verge of Death with no chakra left.
Kaguya Ash Killing bone attack is the only one shot Kill Attack she has. had she used it Isshiki wouldn't be near death or with half a Body missing while low on Chakra, you will immediately crumble and turn to dust.
the narrative states they fought and Kaguya beat him.
Madara and black zetsu Bit is a False equivalent Fallacy Argument.
Black zetsu Paralyzed Madara, who Stated he couldn't move. That is a Deus ex machina.
Kaguya never Paralyzed Isshiki, Nor was it a sneak attack, specially since Isshiki is a Sensory Type. Kaguya fought Isshiki while Pre-fruit, and defeated him and left him on the Verge of Death with no chakra left.
Kaguya Ash Killing bone attack is the only one shot Kill Attack she has. had she used it Isshiki wouldn't be near death or with half a Body missing while low on Chakra, you will immediately crumble and turn to dust.
the narrative states they fought and Kaguya beat him.
Isshiki in the New chapter fears Momoshiki's powers, Adding Obito and Toneri...Makes this a stomp.
Doesn't really matter if he fears him or not, momoshiki got clowned out by naruto + sasuke, whereas isshiki was toying with naruto + sasuke. Isshiki is above momoshiki in like every aspect lol
Isshiki in the New chapter fears Momoshiki's powers, Adding Obito and Toneri...Makes this a stomp.
Doesn't really matter if he fears him or not, momoshiki got clowned out by naruto + sasuke, whereas isshiki was toying with naruto + sasuke. Isshiki is above momoshiki in like every aspect lol
I Not implying Momoshiki is above Isshiki, I am saying he Feared his power and it was stated it in the chapter that he was worried about boruto power because he was 80% complete of Momoshiki.
Isshiki was unable to React to any of his abilities depict being Blood Lust. My point is They are Relative to each others powers according to His Stone monument Fused Momoshiki was around the Level of the Kaguya that Nearly killed him.
pre-Ten Tails Merged Kaguya is on Fused Momoshiki level, and Kaguya in the past almost defeated Isshiki.
Revival Kaguya is actually the Strongest version of Kaguya.
Team have really good hax and if speed was equal I'd give them the win but Isshiki blitz them all, only Juubito survives via regen and gets stomped forever.
@mygod000: Isshiki fears Momo's power? This is probably the worst bait lie i've heard today.
In the latest chapter he literally grabbed Boruto and tried to force him to show all Momo's power he gained. Isshiki scared by Momoshiki...what an idiocy.
@mygod000: Isshiki fears Momo's power? This is probably the worst bait lie i've heard today.
In the latest chapter he literally grabbed Boruto and tried to force him to show all Momo's power he gained. Isshiki scared by Momoshiki...what an idiocy.
Dont Be shy why dont you show the other scan where he is very worried of Momoshikis powe
@mygod000: Isshiki fears Momo's power? This is probably the worst bait lie i've heard today.
In the latest chapter he literally grabbed Boruto and tried to force him to show all Momo's power he gained. Isshiki scared by Momoshiki...what an idiocy.
Is that why he was unable to Kill KK or stop him from teleporting out?
Why would you just gloss over that as if it never happened? not once have i lied in my debate buddy. so try again. Isshiki was worried about Momoshiki power, which was the first thing he brought up during The Fight with Boruto.
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