MCU Civil War: Veterans vs Rookies

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Vets

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Rooks

Rules:

  • Everyone is in character.
  • Everyone has standard gear.
  • Ant-Man can't go Giant Man.
  • Fight takes place at the Civil War airport.
  • Start 30 feet apart.
  • Win by KO or incapacitation.

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Team 2 should win solidly.

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I'm going with team 2.

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Team 2 with Vision if he's dead serious.

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Team 1, Vision is overrated.

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team 1 due to thor vision got ko'ed by ultron thor didn't

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Team 2 wins. Black Widow and Hawkeye aren't going to do much.

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Team 2

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Team 2

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@g2_:

I don't think he is overrated. There is only one time he has been taken down and that was by serious magic by wanda, otherwise he's been seen pretty much unstoppable.

In this scenario, he is the paragon of peace like usually, so hard to tell what he can or more likely is willing to do. Thor will give him run for his money no doubt. And noted this is in character.

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#13  Edited By RBT

Going with Rookies, tbh. But honestly depends on who wins between Thor and Vision.

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@g2_:

Nice to see someone to agree with something like Ok. Thats is some good sport you dont see often.

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the hawkeye and iron man fan in me says team one, but team 2 has black panther, antman and DD. I cant decide.

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@ready_4_madness:

So Vision is overrated because you like Thor, or Thor has the power? I mean I am Thor lover here, and think he is top notch. But Vision has not shown really much of a lowballing in the movies. He is hardly even trying to fight and havent been pummeled by no-one really, besides by wanda. So really harsh to say he is overrated. Yeah he hasent done so much but, all he has done he did with relatively ease.

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What makes the veterans, Veterans? You can argue some of the rookies are Veterans as well.

On Topic: Team 2 should win

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thor solos...dare devil, black panther and antman get 1 shot. War machine is ironman lite and vision is overrated.

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#21  Edited By Direflash

@ready_4_madness:

This was not about VS. Thor and Vision. Never was, only in your head. All I talked was Vision being not overrated. Just calmly re-read the posts and then come again. All I said he is no a lowballer, and NOT overrated. He has not been beaten in fight never. He has never really fought anyone. All he's done, is just being there and overepowering all what his being throwed at him. Not really overrated to in my eyes.

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@g2_ said:

Team 1, Vision is overrated.

Extremely.

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Iron Man and Thor vs. Vision and War Machine.

Could go either way.

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Rookies due to Vision and Antman

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#25  Edited By Revan-

Iron Man beats Rodey in mere seconds by deactivating his suit . He helps cap against BP. Then they Gangbang vision with thor's help leaving their only real threat to be Ant-Man whom they eventually take out. Then DD is lightwork. The problem with this battle is the new guys have very few feats.

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#26  Edited By MK39

I'd side with team 1 for a slight majority. Vision is the most powerful here, but Thor is a pretty good counter with the lightning. Black Panther is arguably the most skilled but Cap has bested him before. Iron Man has consistently proven himself War Machine's superior in every way except perhaps armor and raw firepower, and Iron Man's advantages are more useful in this scenario. Daredevil is certainly not useless but it's safe to say he's the weakest here. Team 1 will have a hard time putting down Ant-Man, but once he goes giant I don't see him being too difficult for Thor to put down. Mix up who fights who and team 1 still wins the majority. Team 1 also has the advantage of having worked together for years, while team 2 largely consists of the antisocial types.

Edit: Just fully read the OP. Ant Man will be one of the harder ones to put down but he can't do enough damage without the Giant Man options to tip things significantly in his team's favor before he finds himself outnumbered.

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Thor is the top dog here by far, but I can actually see vision beating him, due to being worthy.

Anyways, I'll remove these 2 from the fight.

The remaining fighters - Antman beats BW. Hawkeye incaps daredevil while cap stalemates BP.

Iron man curbstomps WM then bests BP and ant man

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How is WM a rookie? He's been around since 2010.

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@the_batmobile: I based it off of their time with the Avengers and appearances. It was originally gonna be "Avengers Civil War" but DD isn't on the team so I changed it to "MCU".

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Team 2

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Team 1, Vision has trouble with electric arrows, wonder how he'd deal with huge ass lightning bolts, I'd take cap over panther too, and tony>Rhodey. Antman is a hard one, though

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#32  Edited By g2_

@g2_:

Nice to see someone to agree with something like Ok. Thats is some good sport you dont see often.

Yeah.

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@apex_pretador: Is Vision worthy, or is he just able to pick up the hammer like an elevator can because he doesn't have a soul to judge? If he isn't worthy he just has a normal hammer and not the lightning and TK that comes with Mjolnir. I think that's the only thing separating Vision and Thor, and it probably decides the entire fight imo.

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Probably team 2 due to Vision.

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There isn't a damn thing Thor could do to Vision. Bolts powered up Tony; I'd assume they'd do the same to Vision. He can't physically crush him; he's made of vibranium. And you can't throw Mjolnir and someone who can wield it; that's like me throwing a hammer at Magneto (but in the same breath, Vision can't use it against Thor).

Vision, however, comes with phasing and whatever powers they decide to attach to his Mind Gem. So without PIS, he should EVENTUALLY take the W.

The others don't matter, but for craps and giggles:

Black Panther vs Captain America- it comes down to who tires first. Cap has the feats to say he lasts a while; we haven't seen much of T'Challa yet. He's faster in running and also seems resistant to physical attacks. He gets knocked around but never seemed wounded. 50/50 here.

War Machine vs Iron Man- Something tells me Stark could shut James down if he wanted to. But I'd still give it to Stark. War Machine probably has better guns, but Stark probably has cooler gadgets. He's more agile and more skilled in the suit than James. Iron Man, 8/10.

Antman vs Hawkeye- Antman, always. Unless he decides to start off normal size; but even then, he can shrink pretty fast and stays out of sight. He could make Clint's day hell. He'd have to goof to lose. Antman, 7/10.

Widow vs Dare Devil- Great fight. She has the H2H skills to keep up, he has the durability feats and the special senses to challenge it. With her toys, she probably wins...barely...especially if he's packing his toys. Ughhh! This is the toughest fight here. I'm going with DD based off of who he's taken down. Widow hasn't stopped anyone as impressive as Matt. Matt, 6/10.

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#37  Edited By del_torro

Vision isnt ironman, he isn't powered by an arc reactor that absorbs lightning, you can't give him ironmans feats. if electric fields from Hawkeye's arrows can momentarily slow him down, then I'm going to bet on Thor's lightning taking him down.

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@apex_pretador: Is Vision worthy, or is he just able to pick up the hammer like an elevator can because he doesn't have a soul to judge? If he isn't worthy he just has a normal hammer and not the lightning and TK that comes with Mjolnir. I think that's the only thing separating Vision and Thor, and it probably decides the entire fight imo.

Vision is worthy. That elevator thing was a joke.

However, he has not been able to show the use of lightning, so I'll just assume he can't use Thor's hammer like Thor, but that highly limits Thor.

However, just like ultron, Thor's lightning might be able to deal damage to vision, while on the other hand, vision might prove too durable to beat. So, I'm not going to who wins.

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Thor wins for team one unless vision goes morals of murder mode but evendors then vision was stunned with electricity so that's thors specialty

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Team 2

Vision can kill Thor

WM>Iron man

BP=Cap

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Team 1, a case could be made for Thor soloing.

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Veterans should stomp...

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Veterans take it due to Thor.

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At the time thread was made, team 1 barely takes it if thor played it smart

Current, team 1 stops. Thor solos and iron man likely solos all but vision, and they duke it out for a long time

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At the time thread was made, team 1 barely takes it if thor played it smart

Current, team 1 stops. Thor solos and iron man likely solos all but vision, and they duke it out for a long time

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Team 1 also WM isn't a rookie he has 7-8 years in the MCU

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Damn team 2. If it were bloodlust War Machine could single handedly take out half of team 1. And so could Vision. And Ant Man.

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Team 1. Antman is not very impressive. I would not call team 2 rookies though lol.

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Team 1 Thor solos adding iron man is a solid win for them