Luffy vs Dogramag

Rubber beats rock. :P

Luffy low diffs. Internal attacks, Gg.

Dogramag stands still while luffy does 0 dmg.

Luffy

Depends if natsu and suzaku are weakened and if he’s made of rock

Dogramag in his weaker form is manhandling two Luffy level characters with Dragon Slaying Magic on account of his durability alone. Unless it turns out that Natsu and Suzaku are just THAT beat up, Dog isn’t going down.

Multi-continental feat from Natsu is where?

Dorga > Natsu >>>>> Luffy.

Luffy>>>>>Dorga > Natsu.

@exauce: @kajin_style:Only in your wildest imaginations. When both Natsu and Suzaku can't even scratch the walls Luffy has 0 chance of beating a dragon who is formed of them.

But hey you're gonna wank no matter what

Bruh dogramag stomps

Luffy solos the verse

Line up all DG and he still Oneshots

Luffy has better feats than both Natsu and Suzaku, simple.

how does dogramag even damage Luffy?

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Yeah,Fairy condom needs 100 of punches to tickle Kaido lol

Dogs Dura>>>Kaidos.

And yet you don't give examples of how durable said wall is nor share illustrations of them trying their best attacks against said wall.

It is also amusing that Natsu got stopped by a wall. lol

Internal attacks have no effect on FT characters. Their internal dura = external dura and that was proven numerous occasions.

pls show proof.

How does rock beat/hurt rubber? rubber with bigger attacks+internal damage+ future sight+ conquers haki punches+ God mode= Mid-low diff.

@kajin_style: Gajeel no sold swords coming out of him. Dragon Slayers eat straight up energy attacks. Cobra shrugged off getting his innards banged up against Acno. Erza tanked a blade that cuts through space. Natsu shrugged off getting spiked throughout his entire body and several spikes went completely through him. Elefseria's heart tanked getting ripped out of him by a Dragon God lmao. Several feats that prove their insides are as durable as their outsides otherwise their bones and organs would be turning to paste.

my question stands

how does the mud lizard even hurt luffy?

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Luffy still wins. Faster, stronger, damn-near immunity from blunt force attacks, reality warping, transmutation, and much more.

Luffy turns his innards into mush

@jdogg: aside from the gajeel example none of those prove their insides equal their outsides

the same way he turned Kaido inners into mush i assume.

@raziel2014:

Kaido literally took internal attacks on panel like Gamma knife, and he straight up took it to the heart. He even claimed later that his ability is annoying.

He took sonic attacks from Killer which was shown to be internal damage and he was fine after that as well. The anime even confirms that it was internally done which is (ep 1017)

Now it’s your turn to provide proof for Dogra surviving durability ignoring attacks that directly attack the internal organs, cause Kaido has shown to take internal attacks.

@edgelord91: Durability negating attack doesn't? Their insides straight up tanking energy that could hurt said user external dura (aka when they eat elemental attacks)? How is a spear going through your skin to your organs not proof of their sura being the same? If the internal dura was weaker than the organ would not be able to survive the impact of an attack that buttered their external dura.

Also Natsu no sold being shot in the mouth by an enhanced bullet so like I said split dura doesn't exist in the FT verse.

@jdogg: you just answered your own question. If the attack exceeds your external durability than its doing the same to your insides unless their MORE durable than the outside.

Edit- natsu was KO’D and considering the same character couldn’t one shot him externally that means it’s less than his scales. Plug Lucy’s dialogue implies that’s not the case for normal human wizards

@akira21: plus Luffy can rubberize him and hurt him that way

@edgelord91: Yup his ability to affect his surrounding including his enemies is a huge plus.

Dogramag do be tough

@edgelord91: No one is talking about their insides being more durable than their outsides. We are talking that split dura doesn't exist in FT since their internal dura = external dura.

The attack did no damage to him, it just took him by surprise. They even said so lol. Plus he has been knocked out externally when he did not know when said attack was going to hurt him. We see this against Jackal and Suzaku.

Also scales?

a spear impaling you shows internal dura = external dura now LMAO

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@jdogg: natsu was KO’D . Explicitly said it hurt and he would’ve taken serious damage if it had been aimed differently. Natsu mid diffed the same character shortly after.

In jackal case natsu knew the attack would hurt he just didn’t know how to stop it.

Suzaku cut down Erza in front of him that’s straight BS.

Luffy has equal external/internal durability and still got killed

@edgelord91: He stated he could have been wounded which means he wasn't and that was from magically enhanced bullet. He tanked it fine despite getting shot straight in the mouth and stated normal bullets had no affect on him. It just shows that their internal dura = external dura.

He mid diff the character when he knew what was going on. We already saw that their dura goes down when they are not on guard against their opponent.

Natsu still tanked every last one once he knew the attack was coming. He got caught off guard just like he did against Suzaku and once he figured it out he completely tanked every last blast from Jackal. He also ate the explosions that hurt him which again shows his internal dura could handle something that damaged his external dura.

It isn't since Natsu straight up tanked Suzaku's strongest attack with his barehands when he was actually prepared. And the Erza Suzaku beat was a weakened Erza as she just got done battling Youko. He wasn't expecting Suzaku to be that powerful and got done in just like Luffy got done in by sound boy despite tanking Kaido hits later on in base lol.

When was Luffy killed? Split dura exist in OP but it does not exist in FT. Acno literally ate a time paradox lol.

Dogramag dragon form ugly AF

@jdogg: natsu was knocked out by someone he later mid diffed because he got shot in the mouth and explicitly stated it hurt.

Knowledge =/= being on guard. Natsu was clearly on guard and still got one shot. He got stronger for the rematch.

Natsu didn’t know how to counter jackals curse so he got hit by it. That wouldn’t have mattered if it wasn’t strong enough to hurt him.

Luffy also got stronger

Luffy one-shots

@deyyy: Based off what? Still being weaker than Natsu?

Fodder tail will always produce fodder statue that luffy will blitz as usual.

Reality wrapper > fairytail verse

@edgelord91: He was knocked out bcs he was caught of guard and admitted to not being wounded from the hit. The attack did as much damage to him as a suckered punch would have.

He was not on guard against Suzkau the first time and it practically stated such in the Suzaku fight. Actually another translator on MH already came out and said Natsu explicitly did not get stronger in just a couple days.

I never said it wasn't, I said he was able to tank the attacks once he was on guard and his insides were capable of eating said attacks. Which just proves split dura doesn't exist in FT.

Luffy somehow got stronger by the time he got to Kaido? Went from sound boy level to Kaido level despite learning nothing new went he got to Kaido? Lol, sund boy got one over on him which let Luffy get KOed and only several minutes later an on guard Luffy actually tanked Thunder Bagua. Clearly the only reason Luffy got KOed was bcs he was caught off guard which is the same with Natsu.