Kakashi War arc ( no DMS) vs Healthy Itachi

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a fight to death

no DMS for Kakashi cuz its too OP

bloodlust

Badass pic of Kakashi during the war and with the Executioner's ...

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Itachi

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kakashi high diff

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could go either way, Kakashi has Kamui while Itachi has Totsuka

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#5  Edited By AGrape

Soloking stomps Kakashi again

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Itachi if Kamui is restricted

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Itachi, easily.

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Itachi mid diffs. Kakashi almost got blitzed by susanoo arrow and totsuka is faster

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Itachi still wins.

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Kakashi wins. he was a monster in the war arc

kamui spam or lightning cable GG

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Itachi in a not too difficult fight

Kamui and Raikiri spam would be a pain to deal with, but Totsuka blitz and Yata mirror would end Kakashi

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#13  Edited By Kripti21

Itachi pretty easily.

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I think Itachi would beat Kakashi a majority of the time because his abilities are so damn haxed.

Kakashi would have to fight him with shadow clones and attack him from a distance in order to win.

Or he come from underneath the ground when Itachi uses Susano. He's done this before vs Naruto Part 1 & Obito.

Kakashi definitely has the intelligence to pull it off but the problem is Itachi is equally intelligent and more then likely will be able to read his movements with sharingan.

Eh.... Itachi 6-7 out of 10 times imo.

I think Kakashi beats sick Itachi a majority of the time if it means anything. *shoulder shrug*

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^^^ People above forgetting that Kakashi kamui'd a moving Rasengan from KCM2 Naruto who is faster than 4th Raikage who is much faster than Itachi

I doubt Itachi would even realize if he got kamui'd.

He would be Kamui'd before he can even use the Totsuka blade if Kakashi is that serious and has the intent to kill

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Depends on whether Itachi can land a genjutsu before Kamui rips him a new one. Sightly leaning towards Itachi winning here, his genjutsus (finger or Tsukuyomi) seem to be quite fast and its bloodlust for both.

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Itachi.

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Still Itachi but with more difficulty, Kakashi's best bet on winning is a kamui snipe which probably won't land on time before he's gets hit with tsukuyomi or amaterasu.

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Itachi mid-high difficulty.

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Still Itachi but with more difficulty, Kakashi's best bet on winning is a kamui snipe which probably won't land on time before he's gets hit with tsukuyomi or amaterasu.

Depends on whether Itachi can land a genjutsu before Kamui rips him a new one. Sightly leaning towards Itachi winning here, his genjutsus (finger or Tsukuyomi) seem to be quite fast and its bloodlust for both.

People above forgetting that Kakashi kamui'd a moving Rasengan from KCM2 Naruto who is faster than 4th Raikage who is much faster than Itachi

I doubt Itachi would even realize if he got kamui'd.

He would be Kamui'd before he can even use the Totsuka blade or cast any genjutsu if Kakashi is that serious and has the intent to kill

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@gogito: That was a KCM2 clone not the original Naruto meaning the clone would have lower stats than the orignal, and in the manga panel Naruto briefly makes eye contact with Kakashi implying he slowed down to sync his attack with Kakashi's kamui as Kakashi had already told Naruto his plan moments before this.

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Itachi has swapped hands with KCM1 Naruto before.

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Itachi also managed to do better than EMS Sasuke when fighting Sage mode Kabuto.

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Sasuke with just his MS was able to react to the 4th Raikage, while Itachi was keeping pace with EMS Sasuke who would later go on to keep pace with KCM Naruto.

Itachi if he's at his peak should have superior speed and reactions than war arc Kakashi or at the very least comparable. However if OP is using sick half blind Itachi then he more than likely loses due to him not having the stats to effectively react to kamui.

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Itachi's genjutsu fucked Kakashi up if anyone remembered in Part 1. Even disregarding that Itachi wins.

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I'm gonna say Kakashi high-dif. This is unless Itachi pulls out Izanami, if so Kakashi loses if he cant end the fight quickly enough

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#25  Edited By Decaffeinated  Online

Kakashi wins it.

This isn't Part 1. Kakashi has grown leaps and bounds while Itachi has remain pretty much the same.

Outside of random powerups the cloud village is actually insane power wise.

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Itachi

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Meh....Kakashi, outside of Koto and Tsukuyomi his other high end Genjutsu wont work on Kakashi and he can dodge the latter however both take him out of the fight so Itatchi would have to use them in a pinch. Susanoo can be countered by Kamui, Amaterasu can be detected and aimdodged, they both are pretty even on the ground combat wise but I'd give the edge to Kakashi due to lightning release.

Kakashi Narrowly or Itatchi Narrowly would be a good answer.

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Itachi wins. Genjutsu GG.

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Kakashi wins Very high dif.

. in terms of genjutsu he scales to obito as obito couldn't defeat kakashi in genjutsu battle and obito is superior to Itachi.

Itachis genjutsu cant hold a perfect jinchuriki, obitos can.

Itachi also told kakashi that the only way kakashi woukd be able to resist his genjutsu is if he was an uchiha with sharingan, or if he had mangekyou sharingan (kakashi has mangekyou sharingan).

And he has fought someone with a stronger genjutsu. (obito).

. Amaterasu won't tag kakashi, sasuje dodged this jutsu three time before it hit him, war arc kakashi is faster than hebi sasuke as he was able to battle ms sasuke to a standstill, and in war arc kakashi scakes to sixth gate guy in raw speed and can track BM naruto with sharingan, even if it (Amaterasu) does, kamui says hi.

. Susanoo, this would be a useless mistake, a waste of chakra even, kakashi will not be tagged by this, at least not by totsuka no tsurugi, magatama would be the best bet, also kakashi can easily use doton to come out from under the ground inside susanoo, at rhat close range while itachi would be fully able to stop a chidori, a kamui is game over. Itachi aint this stupid.

Itachi wil fight mostly out of susanoo and try to get a hit from kakashis blindspot, at the same time kakashi will be waiting for itachi to kill his lightning clone and get electrocuted or at least let his guard down and take a kamui to the face. Overall i see kakashi winning this game of tag, should itachi attempt susanoo from the blindside, it kikks the lightning clone (pain and obito fell for this, both have better eyes than Itachi), kakashi comes out of the ground (kakashi has actually ised this tactic on itachi before and he succeeded, naruto delivered the final blow though) and kamui.

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#30  Edited By the_wspanialy

@cyberblades22 said:

@gogito: That was a KCM2 clone not the original Naruto meaning the clone would have lower stats than the orignal, and in the manga panel Naruto briefly makes eye contact with Kakashi implying he slowed down to sync his attack with Kakashi's kamui as Kakashi had already told Naruto his plan moments before this.

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Itachi has swapped hands with KCM1 Naruto before.

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  • KCM2 > KCM;
  • Naruto wasn't going all out;
  • Prior to their confrontation, Naruto made (at least) 12 clones of himself which he deployed to different battlefields. And since creating clones spread chakra evenly between clones, Naruto was (at best) at 1/13 of his actual strength.

So if anything, it's a good feat for Naruto, not for Itachi.

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@the_wspanialy:

Fair points but KCM2 Naruto was following Kakashi's strategy and slowed down his attack so Kakashi could kamui it, they made a plan before trying to hit Obito and Naruto made eye contact with Kakashi briefly before his Rasengan got Kamui'd.

Edo Itachi managed to out perform EMS Sasuke against Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto and showed that his speed was on equal terms with EMS Sasuke's or greater during that fight. EMS Sasuke later went on to perform on equal terms with KCM Naruto who had befriended Kurama at the time.

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Itachi is not beating Kakashi (arc war) with a Genjutsu, kakashi resisted Obito's genjutsu

Sasuke MS is not inferior to Itachi and Sasuke FMS is superior to Itachi. Totsuka is the same as Kusanagi of Orochimaru to say that Totsuka is faster than the Susanoo arrow is just a cheap guess. (99% of itachi fanboys' arguments are just headcanon) Kakashi in Arc war got stronger he and Guy received a power increase that is, in fact, a huge incoherence Guy had a ridiculous power increase pure PIS.

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this basically comes down to who can gg the other first ASSUMING that kamui snipe would even work on Itachi when it failed to destroy a giant ass non-moving object like the gedo mazo.

There's nothing he can do to Susanoo or Tsukuyomi, about the Obito instance the latter was holding back.

Also that Kakashi pic looks badass but he would eventually lose

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Still Itachi. He holds the exact same advantages as before.

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#36  Edited By zgtfreak

Even if it was a clone, Kakashi reacting to KCM2 Naruto in any fashion should put him above Itachi in speed to some extent. And as a few have pointed out... Itachi's genjutsu will not be effective at all against Kakashi at this stage, as he resisted Obito. Kakashi also has an advantage in the sense of he will likely start out with Kamui as usual, which can one shot Itachi. Not saying he'll land it on the first try (though maybe he will), but it's a great starter move, as it can easily surprise and one shot his opponent. Meanwhile Itachi's first response is likely to be using multiple ineffective genjutsu. So Kakashi has a complete advantage in the early fight.

If Itachi survives to the mid fight, he will probably respond with more physical attacks and Amaterasu. Now both characters have eye power snipe hax to one shot each other, but yet again, Kakashi has the advantage. Amaterasu has travel time, as we see when Ay dodges Sasuke's Amaterasu. Kakashi could dodge or absorb Amaterasu with Kamui. Meanwhile Kamui spawns at the selected destination. There is no travel time. This will make dodging Kamui extremely hard for Itachi. Plus in a battle of ninjutsu overall, Kakashi would eventually start to overwhelm him with his far larger and more versatile moveset. Kakashi's chakra reserves are also hilariously higher than Itachi's and should be fine during the mid fight, while Itachi would begin to tire. So Kakashi has the advantage here too in the mid fight.

If Itachi survives to the late fight, he will survive no longer. There are only 2 outcomes here: One is that Itachi activates Susanoo and gets Kamui sniped immediately, as he becomes a slow moving target. Outcome two is that he realizes that using Susanoo will leave him wide open for Kamui and thus not decide to use it. So he will try to hold out as long as he can while trying to find an opening. This won't happen though, as Kakashi's moveset is way too versatile and Itachi should be exhausted at this point from being pushed so hard. So in the end, Itachi will eventually die to Kakashi's overwhelming abilities. I personally think the fight will end in the mid fight though, with Kakashi winning mid-diff in a good fight.

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People are forgetting that Itachi is a tricky mother******! he wins high diff.

Has Itachi ever lost before?

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@decaffeinated: Defeating Orochimaru when he was at full health, Hebi Sasuke, Sage Kabuto, Nagato, part 1 Kakashi, isn't that great?

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@happylife1996: Orochimaru literally walked up to Itachi guard down not expecting anything.

He lost to Sasuke albeit that was the plan

Sage Kabuto had beaten him twice had Itachi not been an Edo.

He needed help with Nagato

Fair play with Kakashi.

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@decaffeinated: -Orochimaru was trying to sneak attack on him anyway.

-He could've defeated Sasuke easily if he was actually trying

-Itachi wasn't going for the kill against Kabuto, he was planning to capture him alive. However, Kabuto was.

-And I'd argue that Naruto and B were obstacles in his way since if he hadn't had to save them first, Nagato wouldn't have had the time to use CT.

-OK.

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I believe Kakashi wins, he was a beast during the war.

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#43 Decaffeinated  Online

Orochimaru was literally walking up to him guard down.

Not relevant

Not relevant he needed Edo which boosts stamina and makes him immortal.

If Bee and Naruto weren't distracting Nagato, Itachi wouldn't have had any openings.

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@decaffeinated: -Again, it's fair when taken into consideration that Orochimaru was going to attack Itachi while his guard was down.

-Ok

-It is relevant. If a character lost a battle because he wasn't going for the kill, this defeat wouldn't count. Add to that that Kabuto had intel on Itachi, while Itachi knew nothing about Kabuto and still won without killing him. It's fair and square.

-Nagato lost once CT was down, if it wasn't for Naruto and B, there wasn't going to be CT, to begin with.

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@happylife1996:

Itachi was ready with his Genjutsu meaning his guard wasn't down.....

That's now how that works Naruto hasn't killed a single person (except 1) and he's pretty much undefeated except Sasuke in VOTE1.

Nagato literally had both his hands full with Naruto and Bee allowing Itachi to attack from blind spots this is stated in the Manga

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@decaffeinated: -Itachi's guard wasn't down because he's smart, that shouldn't be taken against him.

My point stands still, Itachi won fair. And Naruto lost several battles, lol.

I just rewatched the fight, And I can agree with you on Nagato, he used CT and Itachi just stood there waiting for it, that's bad writing, lol.

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A good fight, but i think Itachi wins. Despite of Kakashi experience, he's dependent his vision as any other, therefore, turn into vulnerable against genjutsu, while his ninjutsu except Kamui are nulified due to Susanoo

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Kakashi is faster but has much less versatility. Itachi 7/10

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Kakashi wins this high-dif.

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#50  Edited By Mrwalker98282

Kakashi blitzes

That kakashi is on bijuu mode narutos level yet a fully healthy edo itachi was going blow for blow with a weakened kcm1 naruto lol