Golden Frieza vs Omega Shenron

Frieza godstomps.

Golden Frieza.

Side note: When you're idea for a new villain is the same villain who has already been rehashed and beaten after his initial defeat, but Gold (ya know like a SSJ) you know you're fresh out of creativity.

The Shadow dragons was actually a good idea. Not very well executed, but at least it didn't just rehash villains.

Freeza wrecks

I haven't seen the movie, but shouldn't Omega Shenron be a good deal stronger than Frieza?

@jesusthesefanboys: That's true...although in GT's case they would have been better off just rehashing

So how are people deciding which of these two are stronger? I have yet to find a way to accurately compare post-BOG and GT character's power yet.

Shenrons feats are way better

Probably Frieza but then he might not be able to truly defeat Omega Shenron.

Probably based on which one they like better.

Omega. He stomps, and if you don't agree then you're a communist.

@mrhamwallet: ? Gt rehashed most of the villains from movies and the series

@dbzk1999: Also a good point...in all honestly it'd be better off if it were just canned before release.

@mrhamwallet: lol at comics using the same villians for 50+ years.

@midnightdragon18: Que?

@reaper_of_heaven: no frieza is

@nathaniel_christopher: @blade_r: because ssjg took 6 saiyans and a fusion is only 2 I'm not saying that A + B = C but yall can do the math on your own

i don't mind it because he was the first villain that casued goku to ascend. it's only fitting they show down again sooner or later. It's the first time they are fighting again in how many years where he could be considered an actual threat and not a punching bag to trunks. The green goblin came back like 10 times, actually...how many times have comic book villains come back ?

My only problem is they could have given him a better form

@w0nd: Comic book villains and heroes come back but they don't typically become massively more powerful in between meetings, so it makes more sense.

My problem isn't so much that it's Frieza again, it's that there was no creativity in the design. I have the same issue with SSJ God...as well as the ridiculous name of that transformation

@mrhamwallet: the design itself was pretty creative. Considering there's not much you can change without letting people recognize it as freeza, heck, it's even implied that freeza picked the color of the form to be gold so that he could mock the saiyans.

Anyways the overall reason he's gold was because toriyama didn't want to change freeza too much

Don't really think that logic holds up in the cases of a fusion or godly transformation.

@dbzk1999: That's the explanation but I wouldn't call it creative, I mean it's better than SSJ God's with red hair and pupils...but that's not an achievement.

Each to their own though.

High tier GT character's are stronger than pre-BOG Z characters for the most part, so the math and scaling isn't that simple.

I'd say Shenron but I haven't seen RoF yet so I'm just assuming based on Gt Goku being so much stronger then BoG Goku

@blade_r: only person who was stronger in get was goku, vegeta aged passed his prime which makes no sense . Gohan kept going super saiyan trunks ran a business goten had h03s and pan was just pan oh and krillen died so

Omega kills him with one blast

I said for the most part, not all. Anyway Gohan went Super Saiyan in BOG, and wasn't even sure he could in ROF so nothing suggest he is any stronger post-BOG than post GT, weaker than PostZ, but not BOG. Goku was much stronger than Pre-BOG. Nowhere was it said Vegeta was weaker, plus he attained SSJ4, which Omega humiliated (With SSJ4 Goku too) . Pan was obviously stronger in GT than she was as a baby, and Trunks showed that he was still viable in battle in the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls, it can be assumed he isn't as strong though. Goten probably got weaker.

Still though, Super Baby Vegeta should be above anybody Pre-Bog, same with Super 17 and Syn/Omega Shenron. GT Goku was ridiculous, Majuub, Super Baby, Super 17 , SSJ4 Vegeta, and Nova Shenron, and Syn/Omega Shenron should be stronger than anybody in Z before BOG/ROF/Super.

@blade_r: Gohan never went ssj in revival of f he went mystic and he went ssj in rof like an idiot

Stop

Freeza stopms hardcore

Nobody in GT are in godly levels

Stop. Now.

Frieza.

I haven't seen it yet (Waiting for Dub or official sub) but that's just what I heard lol

Lord Frieza

shame GT and its characters arent canon

I suspect the designs were similar so Bandai could sell repaints of their figuarts Goku and Frieda figures

@ninjawarrior268: Possible that had something to do with it but those things are cheap to make so I doubt it.

I heard that SSJG came from the original designs for SSJ as seen in the Lord Slug movie. Gold Frieza is an example of lazy design imo.

Any db content post z sucks why does anybody care about this shit? And gt wasnt stated non canon just a side story lol but still doesnt make the movies any less trash lol.

Bump, also plz don't just say gt= non cannon so frieza wins. I want to see actual opinions.

Frieza can just blast Shenron without shenron even knowing he cant sense god ki

I don't know about that apparently, all versions of shenron is listed under deities. Also how did frieza obtain godly ki? All he did was train for 4 months, this means that level of power is obtainable by just training.

@jesusthesefanboys: how did he get stronger then a ssj3 goku in 4 months ?

Training apparently, that's all it took, a bit of a cop out imo. But he has never trained in his life before. But to train and reach that level. Means that level isn't unobtainable, its just that Goku had reach his peak. Where as Frieza had more potential and could match super saiyan 1 on Namek, but he had never trained in his life.

On the wiki it says " This form is commonly misconceived as Frieza's "god form" due to placing Frieza's power on the same level as godly characters, but in actuality he does not have divine ki". Anyone saying god ki= insta win is wrong. It just means you cant be sensed. All versions of Shenron are listed as a deity anyway.

Omega Shenron Dragon Stomps

Frieza wins in final form in a close fight golden straight stomps.

Going with Frieza with this.

Golden Frieza should stomp, but he could lose if is cocky and runs out of energy considering he loses energy so rapidly and Omega has very high level regen.