Location: Soul Society
Knowledge: No
Equal Stats: No
In Character: Yes
Win By: Death
In character yama gets fodderized, the guy is so hesitant to use his bankai that he'd rather blow himself up than activate it normal.
Plus by the time he realizes how much of a threat isshiki is he'll already look like swiss chess.
@manimalman: when did that happen? if your talking about the arrancar arc he legit couldn't use it because it would kill the town.... Why would a shinigami harm the people their meant to look after? Also Aizen made a arrancar that absorbed his flames meaning that the bankai was useless. Its a key plot point dunno why your taking this out of context to downplay him
@ob1toe: it was a fake kurakara town and I honestly doubt wonderweiss could withstand his bankai, especially since it doesnt flame up like his shikai does.
But yeah, all the crazy shit that happens throughout bleach and yamma only decides to use his bankai after his best friend died the seireitei is at the brink of destruction.
Its just not in character for him unless he's at and absolute low point. He's not gonna bust it out in a 1v1 against someone he knows nothing about.
@citgo: @manimalman: My bad it was fkt but yammato was still holding back in the fight. As shown in the yahwach fight he was slowly killing his surrounding's with his bankais passive heat. Him using his bankai against aizen would be out of chracter since it would do more harm then good, both the gotei members in the are and the surrounding area would be affected by his bankai. Fkt doesnt protect the outside world as aizen stated that shikai yammatos flames were potent enough to break the fkt barrier and burn the town and surronding area to ash hence why he had to try to tank it
its very unlikely in-chracter yammato would go bankai against isshiki as the only time we saw it was when he was acting out of chracter and not caring about how he might damage the ss due to his blood lust and rage towards yahwach. Its very unlikely that he would comprise his position and use bankai while ic
@ob1toe: all the more reason for him to end it quickly and percisely with his bankai, he bankai is more contain since his flames are just limited the tip and edge of his blade. We've already seen that he can use it with limited damage to his surroundings(just some cracked glass and some rain).
Basically the bankai is more potent but his shikai more traditionally destructive and he was fine blasting off a town size suicide attack.
@ob1toe: go back few chapters and Yamamoto was willing to kill all his fellow captains just so he could kill Aizen lmao, but still didnt resort to ZnT, the only reason he did so against fake Yhwach/Royd was to get revenge for Chojiro, but u already knew that. And IIRC FKT is within SS, so the only reason he jumped to seal the flames was to save his home from collateral damage who were not part of the 13 squads. Isshiki blitzstomps.
@saintlord: isshiki can't shrink living beings. The zanpakutos have their own soul and consciousness
- Isshiki being the 2nd strongest naruto God tier to date........
Lmao
OT: weaker chars stomp the fodder with his fodder butter sword
Not seeing how Yama doesn’t win.
Isshiki will start out with h2h, which won’t be impressive to Yama. After he starts shrinking himself Yama will go Shikai, Isshiki tries to shrink the flames( won’t get into if that’s successful or not ) if he does Yama goes Bankai no more flames to shrink. Isshiki tries to shrink ZnT but can’t, eventually Isshiki gets vaped.
The rods won’t affect Yama like they do Naruto and Sasuke due to better piercing resistance/durability.
@invadedtbd: what evidence to prove that isshiki cant shrink his sword?
Isshiki > Jigen >> bankai Yamamoto
Isshiki is a terrible matchup for yamamoto
1. He can absorb yamamoto's flames
2. He can shrink it and store it in a dimension and use it on yamamoto himself (we know his flames hurt him as seen with gremmy).
3. He can shrink yamamoto's blade
4. If energies are equal he can drain yamamoto with his rods
5. He seals yamomoto in a pot
6. Yamamoto can not even tag him nor can he counter shrinking
How the fuck is isshiki blitzing and one shotting?
The dude was hurt by REGULAR FIRE!!!!!! REGULAR FIRE GAVE HIM TROUBLE!!!!! How is he going to "blitz and one shot" someone who has A 15 MILLION DEGREE CELCIUS REIATSU CLOAK, COVERING THEM AT ALL TIMES? Do you mfs even use ur brains?????
@mards555: jigen was hurt by special eternally burning fire.
Isshiki just shrank them instantly.
@manimalman: Isshiki was hurt by regular fire.
Also, it's irrelevant. He doesn't have the AP or speed feats to suggest he one taps Yama.
Characters had relativistic - light speed calcs EARLY ON in bleach. Such as Uryu outspeeding his shadow. This isn't outlandish either, since characters have also just consistently dodged beams of light. And mimihagi has a MFTL calc. Ichibe also has a FTL+ calc. Top tiers of bleach are consistently like FTL - MFTL.
How the fuck is isshiki blitzing and one shotting?
The dude was hurt by REGULAR FIRE!!!!!! REGULAR FIRE GAVE HIM TROUBLE!!!!! How is he going to "blitz and one shot" someone who has A 15 MILLION DEGREE CELCIUS REIATSU CLOAK, COVERING THEM AT ALL TIMES? Do you mfs even use ur brains?????
Be quiet alt!
OT: Either Isshiki keeps his distance and shrinks the fire or throws a bunch of cubes to his direction or takes him to the dimension where time stops or Yama instantly vapes him if Isshiki gets too close
@mards555: how does anyone seriously think uryu’s little visual effect is an actual feat. Rock lee did the exact same thing during the chuunin exams, guess he’s relativistic to lightspeed too right?
Yamamoto destroys Ishiki, excluding his Zanpakuto he has his physically abilities plus hakuda and kido. Isshiki would be problem but small to mid
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