Darth Vader vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress

Darth Vader vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress

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Rules:

• All characters in Prime and are Legends/Canon composites.

Location: Summit of the Malachor Temple where Vader faced Ahsoka. Distance between Vader and Maul/Savage is the same distance as shown between Ahsoka and Vader

Round 1: Vader is by himself and in a normal state of mind

Round 2: Vader is by himself and bloodlusted with morals OFF

Round 3: Vader is joined by Jerec, both in a normal state of mind

Round 1: Team, 'cause Vader isn't as much > Tyranus as Maul is > Asajj.

Round 2: Still the team.

Round 3: Vader and Jerec secure a somewhat easy victory.

Still not a stomp, tho.

1. Team
2. Does Vader get a major amp when he's blood-lusted?
3. No idea who Jerec is

R1 team stomp

R2 still team stomp and lol at any Vader fanboy say otherwise.

R3 Vader may win, hard victory.

I don't think there'd be much of a difference between rounds one and two, so the team should win both. Round three would go to Darth Vader and Jerec.

@nfactor1995: Jerec was the main antagonist in the game Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II.

The team wins the first two. I don't know how strong Jerec is, but as long as he is in Savage's league Vader's team should win.

@sirfizzwhizz: You think the team "stomps" Vader? Reasons?

Team doesn't stomp by any stretch of the imagination. They win round 1, and could just( barely) edge it out in round two. In three, if Jerec occupies any member of the other team for even a short amount of time, Vader can simply overwhelm the other, and together they stomp the first.

Team should take Vader in Round 1, but get choked out in Round 2.

Vader takes Round 3, as well.

Literally the only reason I don't think Round 3 would be a stomp is that Maul and Savage are both experienced lightsaber duelists who'd try to drag their defeat out—but a defeat is still a defeat, and Vader'd either crush Savage or drive Maul on the defensive, and Jerec could also best Savage with his Force strength (or give Maul a better run for his money than Savage could give Vader).

Team win the first 2 rounds in good fights, but lose round 3.

Round 1 depends on how Vader plays his cards.

Round 2 is where the Zabraks die.

Round 3 goes for the the Imperials.

Vader all rounds

Considering that Jerec is on Dark Lord of The Sith level... He is certainly above Maul and Opress. He lacks feats, sure. But you don't get to be a Dark Lord of The Sith by being a wuss.

Anyway, Vader goes down on round 1 and 2, after really tough fights. Then the Maul/Opress team gets obliterated in round 3.

Darth Vader

Going to have to come back to this one. Need to fact-check some quotes. A composite cannon/legends Vader is stronger than either, though the team fight depends on how much stronger. Not sure what the difference between rounds 1 and 2 are considering he's a sith that always draws on bloodlust, but whatever. Round 3 will be a clear win for Vader however, as he'll simply have significant support, at least enabling him to eliminate one of the brothers before engaging the other. BRB after some reading.

1.) Maul and Savage

2.) Vader

3.) Vader and Jerec

I think you're confusing bloodlust with being inherently hateful. Sith are always hateful and aggressive but being "bloodlusted" is taking that to a completely new extreme. Being "bloodlusted" means completely unleashing all your power in a state of unchecked rage and totally abusing your power even if you are not normally inclined to do so and expending every ounce of your energy to kill an opponent. That's different from the run-of-the-mill aggression that we usually see from Vader/Dooku/Maul and other darksiders.

@azronger: @darthsidious: @gingerpenny: @blackjax137: How is Vader beating the brothers by himself when he almost lost to a weaker version of Maul in a 1v1?

I'm backing Vader. He's too powerful for the Zabraks, even both of them simultaneously. On top of that he possesses technical lightsaber skill on Maul's level. Good fight, though.

@alextheboss: When?

@azronger:

@alextheboss: We know absolutely nothing of that Maul's capabilities, so you saying he's weaker is baseless. In fact, it should only be logical this Maul is just as strong as TCW Maul given that they've both been brought back to life via dark side magic.

Besides, that was a lightsabers-only fight. The Prophets even admit at the beginning Vader could've beaten all four of them combined if he went all-out.

@azronger:

We know absolutely nothing of that Maul's capabilities, so you saying he's weaker is baseless.

I meant he was TPM Maul level which is weaker than CW Maul.

In fact, it should only be logical this Maul is just as strong as TCW Maul given that they've both been brought back to life via dark side magic.

It was never stated CW Maul got stronger from the magic. He could of just got stronger from training and fighting.

Besides, that was a lightsabers-only fight. The Prophets even admit at the beginning Vader could've beaten all four of them combined if he went all-out.

Why didn't Vader go all out then?