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Standard pre-52 version of Darkseid vs Thor using the Destroyer armor. Both in character, but highly motivated to win. Fight takes place on uninhabited alternate reality Earth.
...VS...
Standard pre-52 version of Darkseid vs Thor using the Destroyer armor. Both in character, but highly motivated to win. Fight takes place on uninhabited alternate reality Earth.
Darkseid without jobbing. Jobbing allowed, he goes down really really hard. Remember that with PIS, Supes smacked the living sh*t out of DS but at his peak, he was tearing the fabric of reality by simply dying... Not to mention he tried and have a brawl with the Source in that pathetic Death of the New Gods arc.
Thor in a stomp...
OB would have problem with normal Thor, since he has Mjolnir. Destroyer alone would win without BFR. Destroyer + Mjolnir? I don't see how Darkseid can do anything here.
@czarny_samael666: so glad someone else sees that,the destroyer was only stopped by the a good few celestials melting it down right? how do people compare a gang of celestials to darkseid? hes not even in the same ball park as a them.
In my opinion, there are two things that we can't really determine here.
1. We don't know what effect the OBs would have on the Destroyer and 2. Thor being able to block it with Mjolnir.
The OBs can be controlled by DS to maneuver around obstacles or objects, so theoretically, they could go around Mjolnir and hit Thor. In this case, it's the destroyer armor as well so who knows what would happen to it.
@Masterr: well its stated the armour can survive armageddon so if the omega effect is more powerful than that it might win,but i doubt it is.
Just because we don't know how powerfull they are, we can't say that they can take out Destroyer, until there is reason for that. Their best feat is taking out people on Superman level of durability. Mjolnir and Destroyer are way above that.In my opinion, there are two things that we can't really determine here.
1. We don't know what effect the OBs would have on the Destroyer and 2. Thor being able to block it with Mjolnir.
The OBs can be controlled by DS to maneuver around obstacles or objects, so theoretically, they could go around Mjolnir and hit Thor. In this case, it's the destroyer armor as well so who knows what would happen to it.
@czarny_samael666: so glad someone else sees that,the destroyer was only stopped by the a good few celestials melting it down right? how do people compare a gang of celestials to darkseid? hes not even in the same ball park as a them.
This thread just got Thor'ed!!! But seriously, Darksied wins......
@ssejllenrad said:
Darkseid without jobbing. Jobbing allowed, he goes down really really hard. Remember that with PIS, Supes smacked the living sh*t out of DS but at his peak, he was tearing the fabric of reality by simply dying... Not to mention he tried and have a brawl with the Source in that pathetic Death of the New Gods arc.
Jobberseid lost a battle to stairs and his Omega beams were avoided by Batman.
@Quartermaim said:
If Darseid's OB can be blocked by WW bracers Isee no reason why Molnir can't do the same.
The Destroyer Armour is tougher than Mjolnir anyway.
@yahweh: Note that that was ODIN with the full power of the OdinForce with Destroyer Armor with the OdinSword as well as all the souls of asgard and he still couldn't take out a celestial. I don't see how Thor Stomps.
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@yahweh: Note that that was ODIN with the full power of the OdinForce with Destroyer Armor with the OdinSword as well as all the souls of asgard and he still couldn't take out a celestial. I don't see how Thor Stomps.
Irrelevant, a Celestial would handily stomp Darkseid too.
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: I know a Celestial could stomp Darkseid I'm just saying that that user thinks just because Odin did something in the destroyer armor that thor can do the same as well.
But let's NOT derail the topic we are debating whether or not Darkseid can beat Thor with the destroyer armor and i think he can edge it out in a brutal battle.
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand said:
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@yahweh: Note that that was ODIN with the full power of the OdinForce with Destroyer Armor with the OdinSword as well as all the souls of asgard and he still couldn't take out a celestial. I don't see how Thor Stomps.
Irrelevant, a Celestial would handily stomp Darkseid too.
It's a valid point though, that even Odin amped up in the Destroyer Armor got whooped by a Celestial. The Destroyer armor isnt the ultimate weapon some think.
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: I know a Celestial could stomp Darkseid I'm just saying that that user thinks just because Odin did something in the destroyer armor that thor can do the same as well.
But let's NOT derail the topic we are debating whether or not Darkseid can beat Thor with the destroyer armor and i think he can edge it out in a brutal battle.
I don't think he has quite enough punch to hurt the destroyer armor.
@WillPayton said:
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand said:
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@yahweh: Note that that was ODIN with the full power of the OdinForce with Destroyer Armor with the OdinSword as well as all the souls of asgard and he still couldn't take out a celestial. I don't see how Thor Stomps.
Irrelevant, a Celestial would handily stomp Darkseid too.
It's a valid point though, that even Odin amped up in the Destroyer Armor got whooped by a Celestial. The Destroyer armor isnt the ultimate weapon some think.
Here's the problem, Celestials are to Skyfathers as Skyfathers are to city level threats like Hercules and Hulk. The gap in power was far more massive there than it is here.
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: Let's NOT derail the topic we get it celestials are uberpowerful and could stomp Darkseid and Skyfathers now do you think thor wins or darkseid?
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: Let's NOT derail the topic we get it celestials are uberpowerful and could stomp Darkseid and Skyfathers now do you think thor wins or darkseid?
Darkseid can't seriously hurt the destroyer, but the destroyer can hurt him.
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: While Darkseid's Omega Beam effect probably won't do much Darkseid still has other abilities and powers. I still say DS wins in a very brutal battle.
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: While Darkseid's Omega Beam effect probably won't do much Darkseid still has other abilities and powers. I still say DS wins in a very brutal battle.
I'd go with this. It'd be an awesome fight, but I think DS can pull it off.
@The_Cult_of_The_Black_Hand: Darkseid has a vast amount of abilities and powers at his disposal he just usually never meets a threat big enough for him to demonstrate his power.
I believe Thor can give a good fight without Destroyer armor, if he can tag with uber guyz like SS or hurt Galactus on several occasions. I think you downplaying Thor here
Quoted from the comic vine page for Darkseid
The beings of Apokalips call themselves gods and live in a realm called the Fourth World which is outside normal space and time. Their strength is due to their relative proximity to the Source, an energy which fuels the powers of the beings in Apokalips. The inhabitants of New Genesis are far more stronger, faster, smarter, and are said to be immortal.
Darkseid is fueled by the Omega Effect which is a force of entropy from the destructive side of the Source. He can use the omega effect in a plethora of ways.
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