Could Dark Phoenix Statue The DCEU Justice League?

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#1  Edited By immoralimmortal

could she statue and lolstomp them the way JL supes did? random encounter

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No way

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If she can react to lightning and Quicksilver then yes.

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Yep

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#5  Edited By TheVVitchKing

Yes

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Is she reacting to quicksilver there? It looks like she speed up and reacted to him using a small portion of that debri to knock him away.

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I don't really think so, based on what I've seen.

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Qs sucks completely tbh

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@eobard21 said:

Qs sucks completely tbh

he's faster than anyone in the DCEU Justice League though

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Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

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@oraculi said:

Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

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Even moving in slow motion to qs is impressive, supes would be a complete statue.

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@oraculi said:

Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

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@oraculi said:

Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

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@oraculi said:

Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

One of these statements is completely FALSE. DCEU Fanboys agree too.

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@eobard21 said:

Qs sucks completely tbh

...HOW?

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Lmao what? That's completely average reaction speed. Seeing as how Superman as of JL is faster than Quicksilver anyways, Jean gets statued.

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What’s with DC and attracting trolls?

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#25  Edited By PyroFN

@sirpounce: Considering lightning emanating from the Flash moved faster than Superman, he is not statuing Jean or Quicksilver. End of story.

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@pyrofn: Can you prove lightning from the speed force obeys real world physics? No? Irrelevant argument is irrelevant. Considering he can blitz Wonder Woman who has much better reaction feats than that, and the fact he's much faster than Quicksilver at this point, she gets statued. That reaction feat isn't even impressive, she's moving with normal speed.

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#27  Edited By PyroFN

@sirpounce: Can you prove otherwise? No? Then we will go with ABC Logic.

Meant to emulate electricity, looks like electricity, and probably works like lightning. There for, it goes as fast as lightning. Stop your wanking or bring your evidence.

Or better yet, agree to disagree. Either way, you aren’t shutting me down like that.

And again, feats of Wonder Woman moving faster than lightning? No? Okay.

And prove that Quicksilver is slower than Superman. And it is impressive. She is reacting to lightning.

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@pyrofn: Flash literally describes it to Batman as extra dimensional energy, that's the proof right there. It doesn't obey real world physics and you can't just assume the lightning emanating from Flash does. Lightning travels Mach 300, Superman has better speed feats than that. Wonder Woman has already reacted to lightning and has more and better speed feats than Jean, and Superman blitzed her. Superman can fly unlike Quicksilver and is faster than him as of JL. She gets blitzed.

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yes, definitely.

JL Flash and Superman isn't even at 1% speed of lightning.

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#30  Edited By MattyBoi

She was able to react to quicksilver and lightning

Add supes and she still statue stomps them all

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@oraculi said:

Only DCEU fanboys would disagree.

So yes she statues them harder than Superman statutes the league.

This.

Add supes in and she would still statue them all.

Inb4 the dceu fanboys come and say she gets statued.

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@mattyboi: Flash literally shoots lighting off himself which he can see.

And he scales to Supes and the league

But yeah I’m a fanboy

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Jean statues them effortlessly while her eyes are closed

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yes, definitely.

JL Flash and Superman isn't even at 1% speed of lightning.

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#36  Edited By PyroFN

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@pyrofn: Flash literally describes it to Batman as extra dimensional energy, that's the proof right there.

Okay. How do we know that it moves faster than actual lightning though?

It doesn't obey real world physics and you can't just assume the lightning emanating from Flash does.

We can say the same for the opposite, unless you have proof of how it exactly works. And no, explaining what it is does not mean you have proven that it doesn't obey real world physics. Actual proof or statements of what it does is recommended. Not what it is, please.

Lightning travels Mach 300, Superman has better speed feats than that.

....Well? Mind naming those feats?

Wonder Woman has already reacted to lightning

Okay so she is a lightning timer. Good for her.

and has more and better speed feats than Jean,

Name them. Name her faster than lightning feats beyond her actually blocking lightning, which we clearly see Jean doing. And clearly Jean is reacting to someone faster than lightning, so start.

and Superman blitzed her.

He didn't blitz her. He caught her hands while she was trying to do her gauntlet thing at normal speed.

Superman can fly unlike Quicksilver

What is this, a playground one-up? "I can run FAST!"

"Oh yeah? WELL I CAN FLY! BEAT THAT!"

Him being capable of flying is irrelevant.

and is faster than Quicksilver as of JL.

By what feat? The unquantifiable Flash? You haven't brought feats. You only were arguing with me over the semantics of Flashes electricity, in which I hope you either manage to explain to me its speed or application rather going off of vague answers.

She gets blitzed.

Still have not proven that. You have only proven that Flashes lightning isn't real lightning and that he is faster than Wonder Woman, a lightning timer. Jean reacting to lightning is her at a casual level.

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#37  Edited By SirPounce

@pyrofn:

Okay. How do we know that it moves faster than actual lightning though?

That wasn't even my claim, I said it would be wrong to assume it acts like normal lightning or is even normal lightning to begin with because of it's connection to the speedforce, which is an extra dimensional energy.

We can say the same for the opposite, unless you have proof of how it exactly works. And no, explaining what it is does not mean you have proven that it doesn't obey real world physics. Actual proof or statements of what it does is recommended. Not what it is, please.

The statement is that its an extra dimensional energy. I don't know how much clearer it can get for you. It's not real lightning, it's speed force aura.

....Well? Mind naming those feats?

Traveling from New York to Mexico in seconds, traveling from Antarctica to Africa in seconds, blitzing Wonder Woman who has lightning reaction feats.

Okay so she is a lightning timer. Good for her.

Yeah, so that means Jean's feat is irrelevant since Wonder Woman can do it too and Superman blitzed her.

Name them. Name her faster than lightning feats beyond her actually blocking lightning, which we clearly see Jean doing. And clearly Jean is reacting to someone faster than lightning, so start.

I said she had more and better speed feats than Jean not that she was faster than lightning. Quit putting up strawmans. She can easily react to bullets and blocked every bullet in a machine gun, blocked lightning and heat vision, and reacted in Flash time. It's just a fact, she has more and better speed feats.

He didn't blitz her. He caught her hands while she was trying to do her gauntlet thing at normal speed.

Unless you have some other arbitrary definition of a blitz, that's what a blitz is.

What is this, a playground one-up? "I can run FAST!"

"Oh yeah? WELL I CAN FLY! BEAT THAT!"

Him being capable of flying is irrelevant.

Not really, it means he doesn't have to jump off debris like Quicksilver and can go in a straight line to Jean, giving him an additional advantage in cutting down distance and increasing his speed.

By what feat? The unquantifiable Flash? You haven't brought feats. You only were arguing with me over the semantics of Flashes electricity, in which I hope you either manage to explain to me its speed or application rather going off of vague answers.

Flash isn't unquantifiable and he's also faster than Quicksilver. He can actually statue debris unlike Quicksilver here, and Superman fought him while Wonder Woman was frozen in mid air.

Still have not proven that. You have only proven that Flashes lightning isn't real lightning and that he is faster than Wonder Woman, a lightning timer. Jean reacting to lightning is her at a casual level.

It's pretty clear, he's faster than Quicksilver, can fly, and has already blitzed someone with better reaction feats. He would statue and blitz her like he did Diana, even easier based off feats.

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Anyways, the answer is no. Jean didn't display any above average combat speed to statue anyone, especially Flash, Wonder Woman or Superman.

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Smh^^^

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@sirpounce: Quicksilver Silver could save 20+ people from a bomb that went off when he was hundreds of feet away from the mansion.

Superman couldn't save one person from a bomb that he started right next to

Quicksilver is thousands of times faster than Justice League Superman.

No ifs or butts

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#41  Edited By SirPounce

@oraculi: You must of missed JL where he's exponentially faster as of now. Nice try using an outdated version of Superman to argue a lost point. Jean couldn't even statue Aquaman, she didn't display any above average combat speed at all. Your point is mute.

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#42  Edited By Oraculi

@sirpounce said:

@oraculi: You must of missed JL where he's exponentially faster as of now. Nice try using an outdated version of Superman to argue a losing point. Jean couldn't even statue Aquaman, she didn't display any above average combat speed at all.

Show me Superman moving faster than an explosion.

Until then she statues everyone including Superman

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@oraculi: Show me Jean with an above average combat speed feat. Until then she couldn't statue Aquaman.

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Hard to say without seeing the movie. Based on the Trailers, at bare minimum she is keeping up with Supes and Flash.

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@oraculi: Show me Jean with an above average combat speed feat. Until then she couldn't statue Aquaman.

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This is Dark Phoenix Jean, not regular Jean there for Dark Phoenix Jean who only has one film and one appearance will have these feats available (Dark Phoenix Jean will not return again because this was the last FOX film so we have to work with what we have)

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@oraculi: That's a reaction feat not a combat speed feat. Again, Superman is faster than Quicksilver, can fly and has already blitzed someone with a lightning reaction feat. The answer is no.

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@sirpounce: Nope it's combat, her tk moves stuff remotely at a distance so she herself doesn't need to move much all she has to do is wave her hand and it happens.

So Superman gets statued gg

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#48  Edited By SirPounce

@oraculi: Lol, no, that's not combat speed. What does tk have anything to do with statuing someone? It's referring to combat speed here. Sorry she just doesn't have any impressive combat speed feats to say she statues someone who can swing on the Flash. That's just the facts, gg bud.

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#49  Edited By Oraculi

@sirpounce:

she puts Quicksilver in a coma in the film, how's that for combat reaction?

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@oraculi: What? How is that impressive as far as combat speed is concerned? Considering the context in which she did it, that has almost nothing to do with combat speed.