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Poll Boros runs the Garou Gauntlet (62 votes)

Hero Hunter is enough 0%
Half Monster beats him 0%
Stops at Initial Monster 2%
Stops at Perfected Fist 3%
Stops at Complete Monster 2%
Stops at Winged 16%
It'll take Cosmic Fear to beat him 19%
Clears, Cosmic Fear included 58%

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Garou, The Human Monster

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  • Both bloodlusted
  • Win by death or KO or incapacitation
  • With basic knowledge
  • Boros at full power
  • Both manga and anime feats allowed

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1. Hero Hunter

2. Half Monster

3. Initial Monster

4. Perfected Fist

5. Complete Monster

6. Winged

7. Cosmic Fear

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6 is an Extreme fight, but id give it to Garou due to concrete speed scaling, Boros has regen to compensate but hed lose due to usung CRSC at some point.

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Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

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Stops at Perfected Garou, arguably.

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Stops at Cosmic Fear. He sweeps the rest.

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Perfected Fist

Faster, Dura Neg, Attack redirecting, LEAGUES more skilled, and Debatably even Stronger too

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Takes cosmic garou

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People really downplay Boros here.

Stops at winged garou after a good fight.

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People really downplay Boros here.

Stops at winged garou after a good fight.

Takes cosmic garou

Perfected Fist

Faster, Dura Neg, Attack redirecting, LEAGUES more skilled, and Debatably even Stronger too

@jurance said:

Stops at Cosmic Fear. He sweeps the rest.

Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

6 is an Extreme fight, but id give it to Garou due to concrete speed scaling, Boros has regen to compensate but hed lose due to usung CRSC at some point.

lots don't know this but ONE addressed this before cosmic garou (only monster garou) become a thing. so it could go either way depending on whether garou manages to keep the fight close-range or boros blasts garou

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in the manga case, that would be winged garou as that's garou full monster form iteration in the manga.

as for cosmic garou, he'd fodderize boros and it's not even up to debate as he reached a leve of power comparable to saitama at somepoint whereas boros couldn't even make saitama take him seriously till meteor canon

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Stops at CG at most

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He could honestly stop at 6 due to a combination of the speed gap and Garou's physicals, but Boros' regen might give him the edge.

Obviously he ain't getting past 7.

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@yoroshi0 said:
@monarch_knight said:

People really downplay Boros here.

Stops at winged garou after a good fight.

@darkphantom9895 said:

Takes cosmic garou

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Perfected Fist

Faster, Dura Neg, Attack redirecting, LEAGUES more skilled, and Debatably even Stronger too

@jurance said:

Stops at Cosmic Fear. He sweeps the rest.

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Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

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6 is an Extreme fight, but id give it to Garou due to concrete speed scaling, Boros has regen to compensate but hed lose due to usung CRSC at some point.

lots don't know this but ONE addressed this before cosmic garou (only monster garou) become a thing. so it could go either way depending on whether garou manages to keep the fight close-range or boros blasts garou

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in the manga case, that would be winged garou as that's garou full monster form iteration in the manga.

as for cosmic garou, he'd fodderize boros and it's not even up to debate as he reached a leve of power comparable to saitama at somepoint whereas boros couldn't even make saitama take him seriously till meteor canon

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Seen this already

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#16 nwname  Moderator  Online

@yoroshi0: Why would "near perfect monster" mean versions past perfected fist monster garou?

Also that statement is clearly about webcomic versions, manga garou was a human at the time.

Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

Pretty fair take. Weird how some others agreed but there are no votes for this lol.

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#17  Edited By yoroshi0
@nwname said:

@yoroshi0: Why would "near perfect monster" mean versions past perfected fist monster garou?

Also that statement is clearly about webcomic versions, manga garou was a human at the time.

@platinumchalice said:

Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

Pretty fair take. Weird how some others agreed but there are no votes for this lol.

There is often a debate about who is stronger than Garou will appear later , but the original author ONE says, `` Which is Garou or Boros ? Before, Boros was definitely stronger, but now Garou is already stronger.'' He's almost like a perfect monster . I don't know. If it's a good fight ... I think Garou in a close fight. That sort of thing can generally be avoided.' ' Looking at the depictions in the story, Boros fights with overwhelming power , excellent regeneration ability , and long-range energy attacks , whereas Garou fights with superior fighting ability (although he is slow). (He was able to dodge and dodge Saitama 's attacks many times.) It is impossible to say which one is stronger.

here is the source, i linked it in. this is a MTL of the original text. it was released in 2016, a couple years after the monster garou vs saitama fight in the webcomic.

the manga tends to buff up the characters in feats, but generally tends to not be radical about it and out of the webcomic events until/except when there are redraws ofc

e.g empty void (webcomic) - OG manga EV - redraws' EV (cosmic) | monster garou (webcomic) - OG monster garou (winged) being defeated - redraws' cosmic Garou

in short, boros is stronger than garou in terms of firepower and raw/long range strength whereas in close range garou is the dominate force due to his haxy fighting prowess/skill

so it could go either way depending on how the fight goes (long range or shot range). hope this was elucidating 👍

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Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

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@kisukez said:
@platinumchalice said:

Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

winged garou would only BEAT in CLOSE RANGE H2H or CQC. it's the canon answer

otherwise, boros clears till cosmic garou then gets fodderized.

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#20  Edited By darkphantom9895  Online

People are being delusional the guy who struggled against centipede isn’t beating boros lol

Boros beats winged garou and gets stomped by cosmic

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People are being delusional the guy who struggled against centipede isn’t beating boros lol

Boros beats winged garou and gets stomped by cosmic

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it's strange but also interestig to have this kind of threads since there is already a canon answer by ONE SENSEI so t's kinda funny whenever u post that anwer the whole debate goes poof.

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@yoroshi0 said:
@kisukez said:
@platinumchalice said:

Perfected Fist Garou can shake the surface by exchanging with Saitama from space, slice Sage Centipede vertically, and send enormous landmasses to space by throwing Saitama into the ground. Boros stops there if we don't apply Moon Jump scaling, stops at Winged Garou otherwise.

winged garou would only BEAT in CLOSE RANGE H2H or CQC. it's the canon answer

otherwise, boros clears till cosmic garou then gets fodderized.

No its your headcanon that "almost perfect monster" garou refers to a form 4 buffs after monster garou perfected his fist. Also no one here is debating webcomic versions which is what that statement is about.

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#23  Edited By darkphantom9895  Online

@nwname: it’s not head canon answer the webcomic version of final form monster garou manga equivalent would be garou final monster form/wing garou

both are made by ONE Meaning statement still applies

dude who struggled with a centipede surviving a serious punch is utter nonsense

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@nwname: it’s not head canon answer the webcomic version of final form monster garou manga equivalent would be garou final monster form/wing garou

both are made by ONE Meaning statement still applies

dude who struggled with a centipede surviving a serious punch is utter nonsense

Read it again, it doesn't say final form it says almost perfect monster. Garou's dream/perfect form is the larger one he cried over, the smaller amd weaker form that used martial arts more is the version that is talking abaout. The larger form survived a serious headbutt.

To which version it applies to is headcanon, its just more likely refering to pre-perfected fist in manga as that is the only time perfected was used. In webcomic its almost definitely before garous dream form.

That centipede has better feats than Boros and Boros literally died to a fraction of a shockwave from a holding back "serious punch".

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#25  Edited By Konohana

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People are being delusional the guy who struggled against centipede isn’t beating boros lol

Boros beats winged garou and gets stomped by cosmic

I don’t really see the “delusion” when Boros is multi-continental at best in the manga, and PF Garou killed a being that was meant to be > Orochi, and his feat is MC with the worst interpretation of the feat.

Also, what speed feats does Boros have if you don’t scale him to Saitama? PF Garou is much faster.

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#26  Edited By darkphantom9895  Online
@nwname said:
@darkphantom9895 said:

@nwname: it’s not head canon answer the webcomic version of final form monster garou manga equivalent would be garou final monster form/wing garou

both are made by ONE Meaning statement still applies

dude who struggled with a centipede surviving a serious punch is utter nonsense

Read it again, it doesn't say final form it says almost perfect monster. Garou's dream/perfect form is the larger one he cried over, the smaller amd weaker form that used martial arts more is the version that is talking abaout. The larger form survived a serious headbutt.

To which version it applies to is headcanon, its just more likely refering to pre-perfected fist in manga as that is the only time perfected was used. In webcomic its almost definitely before garous dream form.

That centipede has better feats than Boros and Boros literally died to a fraction of a shockwave from a holding back "serious punch".

the webcomic equal vent is wing garou because that’s the garou monster garou at his best same as webcomic

also centipede doesn’t have better feats then boros why lie boros was vaping parts of his ship and considered destroying 23% of his ship as not even worth his time the same ship that eats the moon jump and can even destroy his throne room which is the atrongest part of the ship

also saying died to a holding back saitama like that’s bad saitama is literally the strongest in ther verse up there with god lol saitama serious punch one shot the CSRC meaning he got hit by shock waves several times above his CRSC so again replace centipede there he’s vaped

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#27  Edited By darkphantom9895  Online

@konohana:

I don’t really see the “delusion” when Boros ismulti-continentalat best in the manga, and PF Garou killed a being that was meant to be > Orochi, and his feat isMCwith the worst interpretation of the feat.

Boros isn’t multi continent at best he’s planet-star busting like the guides say and if you bring up surface thing nowhere does boros say it’s his limit its like when garou started comparing his attacks to mountain level or ToP frieza gassing up planet Busting when he’s like universal meaning the guides aren’t contradicted especially when murata himself commented how the anime represented the power of boros well and had explicit involvement with them

no proof centipede is above orochi lol that scaling is not valid and perfect fist garou most likely isn’t multi continent

Also, what speed feats does Boros have if you don’t scale him to Saitama? PF Garou is much faster.

so your basically saying what speed feats does he have if we ignore his speed feats and scaling what?

PF garou is much slower boros blitzes and vapes Him

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@darkphantom9895: Again read the quote. It never says garou at his best, it says near perfect monster garou.

Scaling to moon jump is questionable and its scaling not a feat. Sage also has questionable scaling above Orochi.

His punch overpowered the CSRC, not its shockwave let alone a small fraction of it. Yet you talked like Boros would survive a serious punch. He got demolished by a small fraction of a mere shockwave, stop wanking.

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#29  Edited By yoroshi0
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@darkphantom9895: Again read the quote. It never says garou at his best, it says near perfect monster garou.

Scaling to moon jump is questionable and its scaling not a feat. Sage also has questionable scaling above Orochi.

His punch overpowered the CSRC, not its shockwave let alone a small fraction of it. Yet you talked like Boros would survive a serious punch. He got demolished by a small fraction of a mere shockwave, stop wanking.

that answer come out in 2016, garou fight with saitama warped on 2013 and the japanese fans were asking ONE about that.

you're just using headcanon by intrepreting one's ''almost like a perfect monster'' part to mean something it didn't as it's not meant to be taken literally.

i gave u the source, u gave ur head thoughts. case sealed on who's being headcanonical

oh, and winged garou is a thing in the webcomic too. dunno why u thought otherwise, it is the source material

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@konohana:

I don’t really see the “delusion” when Boros ismulti-continentalat best in the manga, and PF Garou killed a being that was meant to be > Orochi, and his feat isMCwith the worst interpretation of the feat.

Boros isn’t multi continent at best he’s planet-star busting like the guides say and if you bring up surface thing nowhere does boros say it’s his limit its like when garou started comparing his attacks to mountain level or ToP frieza gassing up planet Busting when he’s like universal meaning the guides aren’t contradicted especially when murata himself commented how the anime represented the power of boros well and had explicit involvement with them

no proof centipede is above orochi lol that scaling is not valid and perfect fist garou most likely isn’t multi continent

Also, what speed feats does Boros have if you don’t scale him to Saitama? PF Garou is much faster.

so your basically saying what speed feats does he have if we ignore his speed feats and scaling what?

PF garou is much slower boros blitzes and vapes Him

the amount of copium in regards to boros in this thread is, smells, outstanding

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@yoroshi0 said:

the amount of copium in regards to boros in this thread is, smells, outstanding

It started ever since CF Garou and Blast appeared. Ever since then most of the OPM fandom became bots acting like Boros has somehow become irrelevant to the current powerscaling. He's really only irrelevant to Saitama, God, and CFSM Garou and maybe some other character that's appeared in the series (I haven't been keeping up for about a year now).

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Other than CF Garou, Boros is sweeping the entire gauntlet with zero effort.

Released Boros was able to clash on equal terms with Saitama's consecutive open palms and Saitama was using both his arms while Boros was only using one. Meanwhile all of FEW Garou's punches were swatted away by just one of Saitama's open palms. Visually, it's just so obvious to tell the massive gap between the two.

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#32  Edited By nwname  Moderator  Online

@yoroshi0 said:

that answer come out in 2016, garou fight with saitama warped on 2013 and the japanese fans were asking ONE about that.

you're just using headcanon by intrepreting one's ''almost like a perfect monster'' part to mean something it didn't as it's not meant to be taken literally.

i gave u the source, u gave ur head thoughts. case sealed on who's being headcanonical

oh, and winged garou is a thing in the webcomic too. dunno why u thought otherwise, it is the source material

Didn't remember WC fighting ending that early but fair on the dates, i found something from 2014 about saitama vs garou fight ending. It should refer to his best form in WC. Still its several years before the manga version of the fight and whether it still applies and to which form is still headcanon.

Never said winged wasn't in webcomic, he was just not that strong by feats. Only monster form that didn't exist in WC is cracked eye and 4 armed wing.

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Other than CF Garou, Boros is sweeping the entire gauntlet with zero effort.

Released Boros was able to clash on equal terms with Saitama's consecutive open palms and Saitama was using both his arms while Boros was only using one. Meanwhile all of FEW Garou's punches were swatted away by just one of Saitama's open palms. Visually, it's just so obvious to tell the massive gap between the two.

Nonsense and you know it. Saitama was pretending to fight Boros and he splattered meteoric burst with 1 handed consecutive punched while garou tanked 2 handed consecutive punches for a good while. This obviously doesn't mean base boros >>>> meteoric burst. Its 2024 and people still pretend Saitama's hits are all the same to keep their favorite alien cyclops relevant.

Agreed on there being a huge visual gap, comparing their best hits makes it very clear that Boros is massively outclassed in that department.

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Cosmic Fear wins.
Garou beats the rest.
if you disagree you choose to be wrong,

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#34  Edited By darkphantom9895  Online
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@darkphantom9895: Again read the quote. It never says garou at his best, it says near perfect monster garou.

Scaling to moon jump is questionable and its scaling not a feat. Sage also has questionable scaling above Orochi.

His punch overpowered the CSRC, not its shockwave let alone a small fraction of it. Yet you talked like Boros would survive a serious punch. He got demolished by a small fraction of a mere shockwave, stop wanking.

which is garou at his best

not very questionable it’s literally saitama jumps hits the ship ship stays intact nothing wrong about it

yeah so let’s do this the CSRC was one shot their was no db struggle beam meaning the shock waves from his punch were let’s go with something small like 5 times stronger then his CSRC meaning boros got hit with the equivalent of an attack several times above his CSRC something that would vape garou and anyone near that tier so again not anti feat

there’s a reason boros was like The only alien/monster for saitama to say is strong he actually says boros is strong like what 3 times in the same fight even after he one shot boros he comments about his strength cause he survived

Nonsense and you know it. Saitama was pretending to fight Boros and he splattered meteoric burst with 1 handed consecutive punched while garou tanked 2 handed consecutive punches for a good while. This obviously doesn't mean base boros >>>> meteoric burst. Its 2024 and people still pretend Saitama's hits are all the same to keep their favorite alien cyclops relevant.

1 saitama wasn’t pretending after boros kicked saitama to the moon saitama himself stated it was almost a real fight but let’s ignore that against garou saitama explicitly held back more then Boros because he told the kid he wouldn’t kill him and knows garou was a human saitama doesn’t have the same attitude because boros is an alien/monster like he literally blitzed base Boros before he tried to attack saitama was willing to kill boros at any time during the fight

Next visuals are absolutely useless saitama himself has moments where his visuals suck both him and cosmic garou traded so many blows and did absolutely nothing on IO until the serious table flip opm and visuals are never consistent and aren’t something to base power on

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Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

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#36  Edited By nwname  Moderator  Online
@darkphantom9895 said:

which is garou at his best

not very questionable it’s literally saitama jumps hits the ship ship stays intact nothing wrong about it

yeah so let’s do this the CSRC was one shot their was no db struggle beam meaning the shock waves from his punch were let’s go with something small like 5 times stronger then his CSRC meaning boros got hit with the equivalent of an attack several times above his CSRC something that would vape garou and anyone near that tier so again not anti feat

there’s a reason boros was like The only alien/monster for saitama to say is strong he actually says boros is strong like what 3 times in the same fight even after he one shot boros he comments about his strength cause he survived

1 saitama wasn’t pretending after boros kicked saitama to the moon saitama himself stated it was almost a real fight but let’s ignore that against garou saitama explicitly held back more then Boros because he told the kid he wouldn’t kill him and knows garou was a human saitama doesn’t have the same attitude because boros is an alien/monster like he literally blitzed base Boros before he tried to attack saitama was willing to kill boros at any time during the fight

Next visuals are absolutely useless saitama himself has moments where his visuals suck both him and cosmic garou traded so many blows and did absolutely nothing on IO until the serious table flip opm and visuals are never consistent and aren’t something to base power on

There is no proof the impact with the ship was as hard as the jump itself. You wouldn't say Io has uber strong rocks because them landing on it at MFTL speed didn't break the moon would you?

What are you even talking about? Why would the shockwave of a punch be as powerful as the punch itself, let alone from that distance? You won't even feel air shift from someones fist moving a mile away from you let alone be hurt by it like getting punched in the face.

Never said saitama wasn't holding back on Garou. Saitama could have killed Boros any time, as he literally killed him in the end while still hiding his power. He was pretending to fight and lying as Boros himself said.

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Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

Yeah i don't get how people put him above that. Maybe other forms with some wank but 4 armed Garou is way too much. Even moon crater scaling doesn't save him and he gets blitzed by pre-perfected Garou let alone 4 armed. There are even people saying he beats Cosmic which is just an insult to everyone debating this topic.

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There is no proof the impact with the ship was as hard as the jump itself. You wouldn't say Io has uber strong rocks because them landing on it at MFTL speed didn't break the moon would you?

What are you even talking about? Why would the shockwave of a punch be as powerful as the punch itself, let alone from that distance? You won't even feel air shift from someones fist moving a mile away from you let alone be hurt by it like getting punched in the face.

Never said saitama wasn't holding back on Garou. Saitama could have killed Boros any time, as he literally killed him in the end while still hiding his power. He was pretending to fight and lying as Boros himself said.

lol what there is saitama jumps all the strength speed crashes directly into the ship end of discussion you can cope all you want and we know for a fact it had a lot of force behind it because it did damage or affect the ship and tilt the 2nd part you do realize saitama punches cosmic garou and barely damaged the ground I can pull tons of examples during their fight where they basically had little visuals no visuals are consistent in opm and isn’t how you judge a character like is blast some building level fighter cause his punches have 0 visuals behind them no same as most of s class

what are you talking about nobody is talking about his punches the shockwaves one shot the CSRC not his fist he completely canceled out the beam from shockwaves alone meaning the shockwaves scale above his CSRC boros survived it there’s a reason immediately after saitama calls boros strong

I mean he wasn’t pretending if saitama own words are this

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you act like getting killed by a holding back saitama is a bad anti feat when holding back saitama can one shot pretty much everyone in the series -2 people

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#38  Edited By yoroshi0
@nwname said:
@darkphantom9895 said:

which is garou at his best

not very questionable it’s literally saitama jumps hits the ship ship stays intact nothing wrong about it

yeah so let’s do this the CSRC was one shot their was no db struggle beam meaning the shock waves from his punch were let’s go with something small like 5 times stronger then his CSRC meaning boros got hit with the equivalent of an attack several times above his CSRC something that would vape garou and anyone near that tier so again not anti feat

there’s a reason boros was like The only alien/monster for saitama to say is strong he actually says boros is strong like what 3 times in the same fight even after he one shot boros he comments about his strength cause he survived

1 saitama wasn’t pretending after boros kicked saitama to the moon saitama himself stated it was almost a real fight but let’s ignore that against garou saitama explicitly held back more then Boros because he told the kid he wouldn’t kill him and knows garou was a human saitama doesn’t have the same attitude because boros is an alien/monster like he literally blitzed base Boros before he tried to attack saitama was willing to kill boros at any time during the fight

Next visuals are absolutely useless saitama himself has moments where his visuals suck both him and cosmic garou traded so many blows and did absolutely nothing on IO until the serious table flip opm and visuals are never consistent and aren’t something to base power on

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Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

Yeah i don't get how people put him above that. Maybe other forms with some wank but 4 armed Garou is way too much. Even moon crater scaling doesn't save him and he gets blitzed by pre-perfected Garou let alone 4 armed. There are even people saying he beats Cosmic which is just an insult to everyone debating this topic.

there is not a single person on this thread who said that. i personally checked just in case, not a single soul haha

@thelocust619 said:

Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

based on what? boros got the feats and author statement

@brownzeus said:

Cosmic Fear wins.

boros[sic] beats the rest.

if you disagree you choose to be wrong,

this

@jurance said:

@yoroshi0 said:

the amount of copium in regards to boros in this thread is, smells, outstanding

It started ever since CF Garou and Blast appeared. Ever since then most of the OPM fandom became bots acting like Boros has somehow become irrelevant to the current powerscaling. He's really only irrelevant to Saitama, God, and CFSM Garou and maybe some other character that's appeared in the series (I haven't been keeping up for about a year now).

yeah, it's weird.

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@yoroshi0 said:

that answer come out in 2016, garou fight with saitama warped on 2013 and the japanese fans were asking ONE about that.

you're just using headcanon by intrepreting one's ''almost like a perfect monster'' part to mean something it didn't as it's not meant to be taken literally.

i gave u the source, u gave ur head thoughts. case sealed on who's being headcanonical

oh, and winged garou is a thing in the webcomic too. dunno why u thought otherwise, it is the source material

Didn't remember WC fighting ending that early but fair on the dates, i found something from 2014 about saitama vs garou fight ending. It should refer to his best form in WC. Still its several years before the manga version of the fight and whether it still applies and to which form is still headcanon.

Never said winged wasn't in webcomic, he was just not that strong by feats. Only monster form that didn't exist in WC is cracked eye and 4 armed wing.

@jurance said:

Other than CF Garou, Boros is sweeping the entire gauntlet with zero effort.

Released Boros was able to clash on equal terms with Saitama's consecutive open palms and Saitama was using both his arms while Boros was only using one. Meanwhile all of FEW Garou's punches were swatted away by just one of Saitama's open palms. Visually, it's just so obvious to tell the massive gap between the two.

Nonsense and you know it. Saitama was pretending to fight Boros and he splattered meteoric burst with 1 handed consecutive punched while garou tanked 2 handed consecutive punches for a good while. This obviously doesn't mean base boros >>>> meteoric burst. Its 2024 and people still pretend Saitama's hits are all the same to keep their favorite alien cyclops relevant.

Still its several years before the manga version of the fight and whether it still applies and to which form is still headcanon.

and it doesn't apply because because it come out prior to the manga version of the events? you can't be serious with this argument? may as well say u don't like that statement.

THE MANGA IS AN ADAPTATION OF THE WEBCOMIC (and beside redraws sticks to it.)

facepalm.

listen, fam. i said it before and i'll say it again, R6 can go either way depending on whether the fight is close range (garou win) or long range (boros win) but anything prior then boros objectively takes it. it's up to you to choose which one u think is more likey to happen.

O.T boros clears all rounds till winged, then it could go either way.

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@yoroshi0 said:

there is not a single person on this thread who said that. i personally checked just in case, not a single soul haha

@thelocust619 said:

Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

based on what? boros got the feats and author statement

and it doesn't apply because because it come out prior to the manga version of the events? you can't be serious with this argument? may as well say u don't like that statement.

THE MANGA IS AN ADAPTATION OF THE WEBCOMIC (and beside redraws sticks to it.)

facepalm.

listen, fam. i said it before and i'll say it again, R6 can go either way depending on whether the fight is close range (garou win) or long range (boros win) but anything prior then boros objectively takes it. it's up to you to choose which one u think is more likey to happen.

O.T boros clears all rounds till winged, then it could go either way.

Look at the votes here. Beating cosmic has 13%.

What feats? Fajin is far above all of Boros' feats in terms of striking and durability and in terms of speed even pre-perfected garou has way better than Boros.

Manga stopped being a full adaptation long ago even ignoring the redraws. There is an entire new arc, tons of original characters and tons of removed or changed content. There are tons of outdated statements due to this, like golden sperm being as powerful as orochi.

Fight going long range doesn't make the least bit sense in manga context at any version starting from platinum fight garou. Boros would get blitzed that version and above.

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Fight going long range doesn't make the least bit sense in manga context at any version starting from platinum fight garou. Boros would get blitzed that version and above.

boros isn’t getting blitzed you actually read a different manga boros was keeping up with a semi casual saitama trading blows with him

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the guide book even goes as far to say boros had the advantage against this semi serious saitama

also the constellation feat is fodder Boros surprised and speed blitzed a semi serious saitama

a feat that was only replicated by cosmic garou and none of his other forms I even did a side by side so you can compare reactions and casual saitama slapped away 4 arm monster garou with 1 hand if you want to go even further boros transformed into MB he blitzed forward to punch saitama creating a Massive shockwave Boros blitzed forward again for a 2nd punch and we can actually see saitama is still reacting to the first punch Boros threw

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@nwname said:
@yoroshi0 said:

there is not a single person on this thread who said that. i personally checked just in case, not a single soul haha

@thelocust619 said:

Boros has nothing on the Winged Fa Jin. He has zero chance of passing R6 and it's not even close.

based on what? boros got the feats and author statement

and it doesn't apply because because it come out prior to the manga version of the events? you can't be serious with this argument? may as well say u don't like that statement.

THE MANGA IS AN ADAPTATION OF THE WEBCOMIC (and beside redraws sticks to it.)

facepalm.

listen, fam. i said it before and i'll say it again, R6 can go either way depending on whether the fight is close range (garou win) or long range (boros win) but anything prior then boros objectively takes it. it's up to you to choose which one u think is more likey to happen.

O.T boros clears all rounds till winged, then it could go either way.

Look at the votes here. Beating cosmic has 13%.

What feats? Fajin is far above all of Boros' feats in terms of striking and durability and in terms of speed even pre-perfected garou has way better than Boros.

Manga stopped being a full adaptation long ago even ignoring the redraws. There is an entire new arc, tons of original characters and tons of removed or changed content. There are tons of outdated statements due to this, like golden sperm being as powerful as orochi.

Fight going long range doesn't make the least bit sense in manga context at any version starting from platinum fight garou. Boros would get blitzed that version and above.

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polling are just randos, they aren't participants in the thread who post in it and will be potentially tagged.

ONE sensei is still the writer for the manga, murata is just an artist. the manga tweaks stuff here and then and is flexible with what it adapts tho it still follows the general notes of the webcomic. nothing deviated from that so far

if you don't think boros wins against R6 garou then👍tho boros has the long ranged attacks, regeneraton and a lot of firepower to attack garou with. he for example would have incinerated that whole area unlike garou who fought hands to hands

so yeah 👍

anyways, R6 is up in the air and is impossible to say who is stronger than who as ONE sensei has stated

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Could stop at 6. Boros suffer from stamina issues and Garou can exhaust him

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@nwname:

Nonsense and you know it.

The answers in the manga panels that I posted. The gap cannot get more clearer then that.

Saitama was pretending to fight Boros

Saitama was literally throwing punches at him and clashing with him and took his arm. That's not "pretending" to fight that is fighting.

and he splattered meteoric burst with 1 handed consecutive punched while garou tanked 2 handed consecutive punches for a good while. This obviously doesn't mean base boros >>>> meteoric burst.

Didn't Saitama shatter Garou's monster form right after the last panel you posted? And you're forgetting that Saitama clearly was not trying to kill Garou because he made a promise, he had killing intent against Boros but not against Garou. Big difference. And strength =/= durability.

Its 2024 and people still pretend Saitama's hits are all the same

Then why did you bring up Saitama's consecutive punches as a way to determine the power difference between Boros and Garou when Saitama clearly had killing intent against one of them and not the other.

to keep their favorite alien cyclops relevant.

Boros returned in the webcomic and his disaster level was so high that it could not be measured by Genos despite being in a crippled state/coma in his base form. Not even meteoric burst. If he's that relevant in the webcomic then he is still bound to return in the manga or at least still scales to it to some extent. The alien cyclops is still very much relevant assuming he is the one that actually returned and not just another member of his species but that seems unlikely.

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Agreed on there being a huge visual gap, comparing their best hits makes it very clear that Boros is massively outclassed in that department.

Your scans just prove my point. The kick sent Saitama to the moon so fast that he was surprised that he was actually in space, he even called it "almost" a real fight. Saitama did not care about whatever Garou did.

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Cosmic Fear is needed fr

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Probably loses at winged garou. Not because Boros is weaker, but because Winged Garou is relative to Boros, and OP didn't specify no evolving for Garou. Winged Garou with evolution negs Boros *in due time*, since Boros wouldn't be able to put him down in time before Garou evolves.

:offtopic: i hate what murata did with the OPM manga ):

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@gorilla_d_ruffy: agreed about the Murata ruining the Manga part. The Manga ruined the entire Saitama vs Garou fight by weird time travel stuff so basically the fight was meaningless. The web comic actually did not ruin it like that and the entire God plot was also not trash like in the Manga. God simply ruined Garou as a character in the Manga imo.

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The answers in the manga panels that I posted. The gap cannot get more clearer then that.

Saitama was literally throwing punches at him and clashing with him and took his arm. That's not "pretending" to fight that is fighting.

Didn't Saitama shatter Garou's monster form right after the last panel you posted? And you're forgetting that Saitama clearly was not trying to kill Garou because he made a promise, he had killing intent against Boros but not against Garou. Big difference. And strength =/= durability.

Then why did you bring up Saitama's consecutive punches as a way to determine the power difference between Boros and Garou when Saitama clearly had killing intent against one of them and not the other.

Boros returned in the webcomic and his disaster level was so high that it could not be measured by Genos despite being in a crippled state/coma in his base form. Not even meteoric burst. If he's that relevant in the webcomic then he is still bound to return in the manga or at least still scales to it to some extent. The alien cyclops is still very much relevant assuming he is the one that actually returned and not just another member of his species but that seems unlikely.

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Your scans just prove my point. The kick sent Saitama to the moon so fast that he was surprised that he was actually in space, he even called it "almost" a real fight. Saitama did not care about whatever Garou did.

Saitama could have one shot Boros at any point saying otherwise is straight up delusional. He even lied and told Boros it was a challending fight and Boros called him out on it himself. It can't more clear that he was just giving Boros the fight he wanted.

I brought it up to show you can make Garou look way stronger than Boros using "Saitama scaling" too. Saitama was not trying with either of them, he just pretended to with Boros and was clear about it with Garou.

Genos in webcomic is pretty fodder and just recently became somewhat strong and even there he was preparing to kill Boros again. Being relevant to people like Genos is extremely different than being relevant to actual high tiers like blast and saitama etc. Also in manga Genos called Psykos' power immeasureable too.

Saitama has never been to space before, he didn't even know he could survive in space without air then. Are you implying Boros' kick was faster than saitama could perceive? lol.

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Saitama could have one shot Boros at any point saying otherwise is straight up delusional.

One-shot someone who has regeneration. Makes sense.

He even lied and told Boros it was a challending fight

He never said it was a challenging fight. He did not even say that it was a fight to begin with he literally thought to himself "this is almost a real fight". Keyword: ALMOST. He said it was almost a real fight, not that it was. And he was not saying that to praise Boros because they were worlds apart and Saitama thought it to himself when no one else was around.

and Boros called him out on it himself.

He called out Saitama for his lies, he was not using his full power and that's all Boros said. I never once claimed that Saitama went all out against Boros.

It can't more clear that he was just giving Boros the fight he wanted.

This argument is both weak and old and I honestly wonder what you people even think of Saitama. Boros outright told Saitama that he wiped out entire civilizations/planets for amusement and that his world was next. Why would Saitama even give someone like him exactly what he wanted? Are you saying he felt bad for a man who murdered countless civilizations for fun? He was even surprised in both anime and manga that Boros survived his punch.

His entire planet was at stake and his city was trashed yet according to you Saitama is willing to let all that slide just so he could give an intergalactic war criminal (who was responsible for the mess in city A) the luxury that he wanted. How heartless.

I brought it up to show you can make Garou look way stronger than Boros using "Saitama scaling" too.

Oh well, you failed.

Saitama was not trying with either of them, he just pretended to with Boros and was clear about it with Garou.

He called Boros strong multiple times, even calling him "almost" a real fight. What did he say to Garou? Did his expression ever change throughout the fight?

Genos in webcomic is pretty fodder and just recently became somewhat strong

What does that have to do with what I said? I said that Genos was not able to measure Boros's disaster level, it has nothing to do with his own tier in the verse.

and even there he was preparing to kill Boros again.

Boros was in a coma so anyone could've killed him by unplugging the life support.

Being relevant to people like Genos is extremely different than being relevant to actual high tiers like blast and saitama etc.

I never said he was relevant to Genos. You did. His disaster level was not measurable and Genos claimed "Is he going to release such a thing intoto the world?" implying that Boros was a threat to the world, which is what a god level threat. Proving that he is still relevant to the story and intent is that he is clearly above any hero on the Earth other than Saitama.

Also in manga Genos called Psykos' power immeasureable too.

That has nothing to do with her disaster level. Genos claimed that Boros' DISASTER level was impossible to measure. Not his power. Psykos can have immeasurable power and still be a high dragon.

Saitama has never been to space before, he didn't even know he could survive in space without air then.

He decided to hold his breath when he reached the moon, why did he not hold it mid-way? Or ever since he left the Earth's atmosphere?

Are you implying Boros' kick was faster than saitama could perceive? lol.

That's what the manga was implying. It was just to show how powerful Boros was, he obviously is not faster since we saw Saitama statue him after.

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One-shot someone who has regeneration. Makes sense.

He never said it was a challenging fight. He did not even say that it was a fight to begin with he literally thought to himself "this is almost a real fight". Keyword: ALMOST. He said it was almost a real fight, not that it was. And he was not saying that to praise Boros because they were worlds apart and Saitama thought it to himself when no one else was around.

He called out Saitama for his lies, he was not using his full power and that's all Boros said. I never once claimed that Saitama went all out against Boros.

This argument is both weak and old and I honestly wonder what you people even think of Saitama. Boros outright told Saitama that he wiped out entire civilizations/planets for amusement and that his world was next. Why would Saitama even give someone like him exactly what he wanted? Are you saying he felt bad for a man who murdered countless civilizations for fun? He was even surprised in both anime and manga that Boros survived his punch.

His entire planet was at stake and his city was trashed yet according to you Saitama is willing to let all that slide just so he could give an intergalactic war criminal (who was responsible for the mess in city A) the luxury that he wanted. How heartless.

Oh well, you failed.

He called Boros strong multiple times, even calling him "almost" a real fight. What did he say to Garou? Did his expression ever change throughout the fight?

What does that have to do with what I said? I said that Genos was not able to measure Boros's disaster level, it has nothing to do with his own tier in the verse.

Boros was in a coma so anyone could've killed him by unplugging the life support.

I never said he was relevant to Genos. You did. His disaster level was not measurable and Genos claimed "Is he going to release such a thing intoto the world?" implying that Boros was a threat to the world, which is what a god level threat. Proving that he is still relevant to the story and intent is that he is clearly above any hero on the Earth other than Saitama.

That has nothing to do with her disaster level. Genos claimed that Boros' DISASTER level was impossible to measure. Not his power. Psykos can have immeasurable power and still be a high dragon.

He decided to hold his breath when he reached the moon, why did he not hold it mid-way? Or ever since he left the Earth's atmosphere?

That's what the manga was implying. It was just to show how powerful Boros was, he obviously is not faster since we saw Saitama statue him after.

You think Boros' regeneration is limitless or something? Ofc saitama could have one shot him at any point.

Yes he did stop lying.

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Yes, saitama did relate to Boros. It's really clear, why else would he lie about the fight being challenging and draw out the fight? Even the punch that killed Boros with mere air pressure was him not trying. Saitama isn't some hero of vengeance, he was casually looking at the ship and the leveled city without any anger or sadness. He is doing hero work for fun not for vengeance. He was also just riding along with Beefcake and looked at him with a smile on his face and just sitting on his shoulder after he killed 10000s of people.

So what are you implying with that? Genos not being able to measure the disaster level implies what to you?

Because people don't take a breath many times a second.

You are contradicting yourself. You are claiming the implication here is Boros could throw Saitama millions of meters away before he can notice and saying he is not faster at the same time.

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polling are just randos, they aren't participants in the thread who post in it and will be potentially tagged.

ONE sensei is still the writer for the manga, murata is just an artist. the manga tweaks stuff here and then and is flexible with what it adapts tho it still follows the general notes of the webcomic. nothing deviated from that so far

if you don't think boros wins against R6 garou then👍tho boros has the long ranged attacks, regeneraton and a lot of firepower to attack garou with. he for example would have incinerated that whole area unlike garou who fought hands to hands

so yeah 👍

anyways, R6 is up in the air and is impossible to say who is stronger than who as ONE sensei has stated

ONE being the writer doesn't change the fact that manga is way different than webcomic. Earlier plan was for Garou to evolve after fighting Golden Sperm in the manga but he ended up fighting someone waay stronger than Golden Sperm (Sage Centipede) to complete his evolution. Several year old statement about the webcomic versions does not hold that much weight in a debate about manga versions.

He won't get a chance to use any attacks due to getting blitzed and his firepower pales in comparison to Garou's power and durability (at least against 4 arms form, 2 arm is debatable but still likely the case). His energy blasts only had city wide AoE, far smaller than Garous physical hit.

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@jurance: what are these people going to do when boros comes back in the manga and is revealed that he isn’t fodder like ONE intends