@akbogert said:
@minigunman123: But, like, we have a woman here who is an athlete saying she isn't flat-chested. No need for appeals to the convenient relative (not that it's fair to just assume everyone who says they have an aunt or uncle is lying). The point of this thread is to challenge stereotypes. We're really no better off if we say "all fit women have small breasts" because it's going to have exceptions to disprove it. I think it's fair to say that, while some sports may dictate different body types, on the whole the majority of fit women probably have smaller chests, and smaller chests than they would if they were to drop out of the sport.
I liked very much of what @SC said, but in particular:
I mean I love sexy woman, personally, and so I like sexy female characters in my comics, but my personal definition of sexy tends to be different from the majority, and I like my comics to have its fair share of sexy men, and unsexy men, and unsexy women, and body diversity, and character diversity, and costume diversity. Balancing act. What also might work for me, might not work for others. Try and cover bases without losing ground.
And the point about sexy character versus sexy clothing is definitely a strong one. I think the major reason that celebrity beach photos/private pictures are so sought-after and have such a big deal made over them is because we're used to seeing those people wearing clothing, so seeing what's underneath becomes a titillating experience. Once we know what's there, we lose interest. Bikini pictures are a big deal for every new bikini, but the moment an actress "goes nude" the rest fails to sell. You've got to wonder...if every (LEGAL) celebrity just did a naked photoshoot, would the paparazzi industry be half as successful? I kind of doubt it. For whatever reason, we're actually more turned on by the occasionally sexy outfit than by someone who is just showing off their wares at all times. Based on that, I think the industry would do well to have some more modest characters, so that when things got hot, it mattered.
First of all, I appreciate your interest in our (SC's and mine) small conversation, and thank you for your post; but first off, anyone stating anything about themselves or someone they "know" is anecdotal evidence, and while it may be relevant to some conversations, it is irrelevant here. They may be part of the exception you speak of, for another thing.
However, I wasn't trying to say "all athletic women have tiny, tiny boobs". I was saying, in fact, exactly what you said, that if you are athletic, you ahve a smaller chest; often, the more athletic and physically active, the smaller the boob size. This is due to having low body fat percentage (certain diets can help with this goal) and boobs being primarily fatty tissue.
I in fact did recognize there are exceptions, but I said that if DC or Marvel wanted to accurately portray their female heroes, the small-chested heroes should be the norm, rather than the exception as they currently are, and voluptuous women should be the minority of their heroes.
I think a lot of this is misunderstanding, and on SC's part a failure to comprehend (as he/she misunderstood other aspects of one of my posts as well), that led to this. All I'm saying is exactly what you're saying. Athletic = smaller chest, normally. If you are highly athletic and have a large chest as a woman, that is actually fairly abnormal.
Also, I think people enjoy the "occasional" hot picture rather than constant hot picture because that's how it remains mysterious and taboo to us, and humans tend to love the "forbidden fruit". Once we start seeing something a lot, it becomes less sensitive, less interesting, less appealing, to the human psyche. Not all experiences are normalized by frequent exposure (for example, seeing an actual murder happen in front of you might never become "normal" for your eyes to see), but it is the extreme norm for most things, such as seeing naked people, seeing violent movies, or swearing. Once we are exposed to it a lot, it becomes normal and not as interesting.
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