Title says all. Can Captain Marvel defeat Thanos while he was in Infinity War?
Thanos (Endgame) vs Captain Marvel (MCU)
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
Assuming that what Killermovies said is true, Thanos wins. She clearly wasn't that efficient at using her speed against individual targets such as Thanos.
@killermovies: no she was holding his hand with 2 hands
Captain Marvel didn't absorb energy from the Infinity gauntlet, she is simply stronger than Thanos. She wins here.
Thanos was also weakened from wearing the gauntlet. It hurts enough that the Hulk was forced to knee.
Thanos is feeling the pain in this scene too, giving IM the chance to steal the gems.
The only one who wasn't hurt is Tony , well it's his gauntlet, but even he felt it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.
This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!
Captain Marvel was powering up. Something we already know she can do. It's just expanded upon in this movie. Instead people make up a far more extravagant excuse about absorbing the stones because apparently the only interesting villains are the ones that are stronger than all of the heroes. All the other attributes that make Thanos threatening be damned.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.
This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!
Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.
He didn't even get a chance to hit Thanos.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.
This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!
Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.
Oh I most definitely am. They had an amazing opportunity right in their faces to show us a truly savage Hulk form when the Ancient One smacked Bruce out of Hulk. We could have seen other Hulk personas try to fight for control of the vacant body, but nope. It was very very disappointing as a Hulk fan. I try to console myself with the IG feat but it's such an out of combat feat and tailored to Hulk due to Gamma that it doesn't help me feel much better.
While I did think they were nearly evenly matched in strength and neither could really damage the other in the movie, thanos’ blade was never tested against carol. I’d wager that thanos would be able to tag carol with the blade before she lands enough shots to KO him. I had not thought about the gauntlet weakening the user though as another poster mentioned.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
You're wrong. No such thing happens. It's head-canon by people who don't to accept what Marvel has been telling us about how strong live action CM was going to be. CM is going to be a powerhouse. It's why she's not in the vast majority of the movie. People on these forums just see in VS topic vision though and have little to no comprehension of what they are actually seeing/reading.
This brings me back to after IW when I had to keep repeating that Hulk wasn't afraid of Thanos and that anybody that isn't an idiot could see that it wasn't fear of Thanos that was keeping Hulk from coming out. Then because people (especially fanboys of a certain hero) like to interpret things in way that can diminish a character, that's what they do. Then the Russo brothers had to come outright and state that Hulk wasn't afraid. EVEN THEN PEOPLE STILL WENT WITH THEIR HEAD-CANON!
Is that the reason why Hulk is still a joke in endgame? Sorry aren't you disappointed as a Hulk Fan? I know I am.
Oh I most definitely am. They had an amazing opportunity right in their faces to show us a truly savage Hulk form when the Ancient One smacked Bruce out of Hulk. We could have seen other Hulk personas try to fight for control of the vacant body, but nope. It was very very disappointing as a Hulk fan. I try to console myself with the IG feat but it's such an out of combat feat and tailored to Hulk due to Gamma that it doesn't help me feel much better.
I feel you bro!
@nomar: I think the best get out thanos has here a is that the infinity gauntlet damages the individual user. Now that I think about it, they did fight twice, and in one instance thanos seemed to get the upper hand and in the other instance carol seemed to be getting the upper hand. The only difference being that thanos didn’t have the gauntlet in one instance and did have on the gauntlet on in the other instance.
Kinda makes sense. Outside of this one instance, there’s nothing that she has done that Thor could not replicate. People overrate her feat of destroying thanos’ ship. She didn’t actually destroy the ship. She just flew through the explody parts.
@nomar: I think the best get out thanos has here a is that the infinity gauntlet damages the individual user.
The gauntlet certainly does that as proven by the Hulk scene. If someone like the Hulk can't stand and is screaming because of pain , it is definitely a thing. Thanos screamed when he put the power gem back as well and he stopped when the gems were stolen.
Marvel in binary has a force field serrounding her I’m not even sure Thanos can get past it she also casually dodged two of his punches in close combat and brought him down with one hand she wins easily
@rem: Only because he has no counter to her abilities or ranged attacks.
Her ability is hax against him and only amped because she was blood lusted.
He still outranks in every stat department.
Anyway, Thanos wins. Carol's feats are nice but he was still able to get the upper hand and throw her even when weakened.
No, that was never stated nor implied.
She is outright stronger than him. She overpowered him on the farm as well.
In their second fight she beat him back with ease while he couldn't even budge her. She had him scared, his face had clear and obvious look of fear right before she dropped him to his knee. If it wasn't for the Stone she would have ended him.
I'd say Thanos. Captain Marvel was using all her strength on Thanos in that particular scene (as well as her flying) , and Thanos was only using that one arm and upperbody strength he didn't use all his strength and she was barely winning.
I find it upsetting that a character who derives her powers from a fragment of a fragment of an infinity stone is even able to be debated in strength against someone who was more powerful than characters wielding full infinity stones.
The gauntlet weakens Thanos as someone already stated and he was already tired fighting the trio among others.
Base Thanos wins in an entertaining fight.
Carol wins without issue. This whole "weakened Thanos" thing is a pipe dream contradicted by onscreen evidence.
Carol wins without issue. This whole "weakened Thanos" thing is a pipe dream contradicted by onscreen evidence.
So why does Thanos shout when he put the powerstone back? Actually this is onscreen evidence that it hurts him. Why was Tony so easily able to grab the gauntlet?
@azrael1973: Because controlling the gems is a matter of will. You only need tank the initial burst. See the guardians use of the power stones. He's calling out as an exertion of will not pain.
@azrael1973: That doesn’t really prove anything it just shows that it hurts at first. Grabbing him isn’t hard, he wasn’t ready, besides immediately after Tony was hit back.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason thanos couldn't move captain marvel is because she was absorbing energy from the gauntlet right?
I think so as well. She was clearly not overpowering Thanos that much in other instances, but that one time. Plus, she's an energy absorber who got her power from space gem, so it makes total sense. The gems possess a very powerful energy, and it'd also make sense that she draws power from her source of power. Tbh, not everything has to be outright stated. These stuffs are strongly implied.
Carol - Better feats and arguably and definately had the edge in their battle until Thanos grabbed the power stone. Only problem will be putting him down.
It'd be a really close fight
Thanos should win, someone mentioned the Russo brothers saying that Thanos cannot be beaten 1v1. Also breaking Vibranium gives him the greatest striking feat in the MCU as no one has done that before without Vibranium.
Man I don't even know. If this was IW Thanos I would say Thanos wins, but in EG, Carol brought this man to his knees dawg. The man had to get power stones just to fend off her. There's no doubt in my mind that Carol stomp.
Thanos stomps, she overpowered him when he was using one arm, so we can't definitively say that she is stronger, he also has a oneshot weapon, better combat ability, better striking, and great enough durability to tank whatever she puts out. Honestly she wasn't all that impressive, Doctor Strange, Wanda, IW Thor, and Composite Iron Man are all more powerful Avengers than she is.
Title says all. Can Captain Marvel defeat Thanos while he was in Infinity War?
Title says Endgame, yet you say Infinity War here, so I'm confused.
In Endgame we see them fight, and it seemed Captain Marvel was overpowering Thanos, but he overpowered her with the power stone. So any version of Thanos in IW would beat her due to the gems. She would mostly likely beat any version of Thanos without the gems, though he has a chance fully armored up with his weapon.
People are wanking Capitain Marvel like they had taken a viagra pill. Capitain Marvel is not fodderizing Thanos. She is not fodderizing Ego and would be fodderized by Dormammu.
Right now CM is indeed the strongest on the hero side so far if we ignore IW Thor's Stormbreaker feat.
Carol was shown to be on Thanos's league and this is not debatable. However as the wank gets rough and the mind goes numb as I hear the "oh CM overpowered Thanos" there is a very convenient dismissal of details as it is very easy to see that this "overpowering" was a clash consisting of Carol using her full body strength and powers to only prevent Thanos from closing his hand.
I can see base Thanos losing against Capitain Marvel in a fight however Thanos still gets the slight mayority from me.
As per OP's topic I get confused because the title says Endgame Thanos while the description says Infinity War Thanos.
In Infinity War Thanos at his earliest allready had the power gem so I can see this going to Thanos mid-easy diff.
If we are talking about Base Thanos still Thanos 6/11 with extreme diff.
So many delusional people. Dr Strange himself said that he used the timestone and he saw just one way to win from 14 million alternate realities.
And even in endgame he told Stark that if he revealed the future to him it wouldn't happen. There was just one way to win and it wasn't Captain Marvel beating Thanos. So in the realities shown by the timestone Captain Marvel lost over and over again and failed to prevent Thanos from wearing the IG.
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