strike freedom gundam vs. hulk and juggernaut
point one: Juggernaut will be harmed for sure! the laserbeams will cover whole juggernaut in a heat inferno he not can suvive.
point two: demn hulk too slow, freedom too quick. he just take his beam sabres and slice him from behind in two pieces.
point tree: in beserker mode kira is unbeliefable strong
"point one: Juggernaut will be harmed for sure! the laserbeams will cover whole juggernaut in a heat inferno he not can suvive.point 1 is completely untrue.
point two: demn hulk too slow, freedom too quick. he just take his beam sabres and slice him from behind in two pieces.
point tree: in beserker mode kira is unbeliefable strong"
actually, all three points are nonsense.
the human Juggernaut said:
"Wing Ultimate said:"point one: Juggernaut will be harmed for sure! the laserbeams will cover whole juggernaut in a heat inferno he not can suvive.point 1 is completely untrue.
point two: demn hulk too slow, freedom too quick. he just take his beam sabres and slice him from behind in two pieces.
point tree: in beserker mode kira is unbeliefable strong"
actually, all three points are nonsense."
gundam is bigger then both hulk and juggernaut. just take beam sabre and he will slice trough juggernaut like butter
"LOLthe human Juggernaut said:
"Wing Ultimate said:"point one: Juggernaut will be harmed for sure! the laserbeams will cover whole juggernaut in a heat inferno he not can suvive.point 1 is completely untrue.
point two: demn hulk too slow, freedom too quick. he just take his beam sabres and slice him from behind in two pieces.
point tree: in beserker mode kira is unbeliefable strong"
actually, all three points are nonsense."gundam is bigger then both hulk and juggernaut. just take beam sabre and he will slice trough juggernaut like butter
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again, you are 100% wrong.
"Wing Ultimate said:lol but idunno what BFR is but i think strike freedom will have a change to defeat it."too slow noobs no change"Noob? Take a look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see? Any way, juggernaut is invulnerable to everything due to his force shield, only a BFR can defeat him. Or major reality warping."
"Dreadnaught said:BFR stands for battlefield removal. Other than that only reality warping of a death level entity's work can get by juggernaut's shield. Or onslaught at full power."Wing Ultimate said:lol but idunno what BFR is but i think strike freedom will have a change to defeat it."too slow noobs no change"Noob? Take a look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see? Any way, juggernaut is invulnerable to everything due to his force shield, only a BFR can defeat him. Or major reality warping."
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strike freedom is made of phase shift armor and is also extremely though.
serious i think juggernauts armor is weaker than a gundam armor
"Hahahahahahahaha thats saying a galactus like entity's shields are weaker than gundam armor, Could a Gundam fight a 100% galactus? No he couldn't, could a gundam damage a 100% galactus's force fields? No he couldn't.strike freedom is made of phase shift armor and is also extremely though.
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serious i think juggernauts armor is weaker than a gundam armor
"Wing Ultimate said:i dunno who galactus is but i think strike freedom will own that fucking juggernaut for sure."Hahahahahahahaha thats saying a galactus like entity's shields are weaker than gundam armor, Could a Gundam fight a 100% galactus? No he couldn't, could a gundam damage a 100% galactus's force fields? No he couldn't."strike freedom is made of phase shift armor and is also extremely though.
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serious i think juggernauts armor is weaker than a gundam armor
fire all demn heatbeams on him and he is toast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Dreadnaught said:You can't say the f word here."Wing Ultimate said:i dunno who galactus is but i think strike freedom will own that fucking juggernaut for sure."Hahahahahahahaha thats saying a galactus like entity's shields are weaker than gundam armor, Could a Gundam fight a 100% galactus? No he couldn't, could a gundam damage a 100% galactus's force fields? No he couldn't."strike freedom is made of phase shift armor and is also extremely though.
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serious i think juggernauts armor is weaker than a gundam armor
fire all demn heatbeams on him and he is toast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Juggernaut is invincible to everything with his shield up. Plain and simple.
i saw in a comic that juggernaut was beaten by some lady with superhuman powes :P wow then u must shame yourself.
"i saw in a comic that juggernaut was beaten by some lady with superhuman powes :P wow then u must shame yourself.
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yea in an spiderman comic
1. WTF wats with this healing stupid marvel
2. how are they supposed to hit freedom??? he can fly and is incredibly fast.
3. freedom will fire all his weapons till hulk is reduced to a piece of green meat.
Admittedly, my knowledge of that Gundam is limited. But isn't he huge? I mean, massve; skyscraper big. This is probably both a blessing and a curse. A punt from Gundam will send Hulk or Juggernaut atmospheric. But does that count as battlefield removal?
However, honestly, Gundam is probably stronger than either of them, or at least can apply more force with each of his hits. I doubt his beams will do much to Juggernaut (his armour being pretty badass, or so I'm told). However, the concentrated beams will certainly not leave Hulk unscathed. It is difficult to compare, but looking at the damage it inflicts on static targets (such as buildings) perhaps it is on par with Gladiator's eye beams? Which are capable of piercing Hulk's skin.
Doesn't Gundam have a hammer of somesort? If caught between something REALLY hard (i.e. pure adamantium) and a hit from the hammer I suspect that Hulk (not juggernaut; his armour is stronger) would be pulp. However, blocks of Adamantium aren't just found lying around, and considering that Hulk is probably harder (probably - lol) than concrete or whatever, all it would succeed in doing is make a big hole.
Also, a hit from a positron blaster cannon may prove effective against the heroes, as there is no evidence to prove that Hulk's atom's are 'stronger' (which is impossible - atoms are atoms afterall). It is more difficult to judge it's effects on Juggernaut, as I am willing to bet that due to his armour's nature, the atomic deconstruction would prove less effective. However, if it hit flesh... who knows?
(Note: if you didn't know, positron blaster cannons in the Cosmic Era universe 'fire positrons, the antimatter equivalent of electrons. When the beam comes into contact with something, the positrons and electrons annihilate eachother, causing the target to break down on an atomic level. It also releases pure energy in the form of gamma radiation, according to E=mc2' I realise that the gamma radiation would strengthen hulk, but he would not be there in the first place, as the gamma raditation would only be caused if Hulk actually vapourised. I know his regeneration is good... but I KNOW it's not THAT good)
Phase shift armour would provide protection against hits; that is until the battery drains. However, Gundam can fly up and wait until the battery recharges if that happens. Phase shift armour can protect against anything, as long as the battery remains. It might only stand up to a handful of hits from hulk or Juggernaut, however as I stated, Gundam send the pair of them flying, fly up and wait for the batteries to recharge.
Gundam's targetting systems are highly developed, and would have no trouble hitting Juggernaut or Hulk.
Also, but this is just a guess, I reckon the massively advanced A.I. aboard Gundam would find a way...
I make it sound clear cut... but it is most definetly not; I am simply trying to provide both sides of the arguement, before Wing Ultimate gets destroyed by these Hulk / Juggernaut fanboys... :P
:lol:
"Admittedly, my knowledge of that Gundam is limited. But isn't he huge? I mean, massve; skyscraper big. This is probably both a blessing and a curse. A punt from Gundam will send Hulk or Juggernaut atmospheric. But does that count as battlefield removal?wow....................
However, honestly, Gundam is probably stronger than either of them, or at least can apply more force with each of his hits. I doubt his beams will do much to Juggernaut (his armour being pretty badass, or so I'm told). However, the concentrated beams will certainly not leave Hulk unscathed. It is difficult to compare, but looking at the damage it inflicts on static targets (such as buildings) perhaps it is on par with Gladiator's eye beams? Which are capable of piercing Hulk's skin.
Doesn't Gundam have a hammer of somesort? If caught between something REALLY hard (i.e. pure adamantium) and a hit from the hammer I suspect that Hulk (not juggernaut; his armour is stronger) would be pulp. However, blocks of Adamantium aren't just found lying around, and considering that Hulk is probably harder (probably - lol) than concrete or whatever, all it would succeed in doing is make a big hole.
Also, a hit from a positron blaster cannon may prove effective against the heroes, as there is no evidence to prove that Hulk's atom's are 'stronger' (which is impossible - atoms are atoms afterall). It is more difficult to judge it's effects on Juggernaut, as I am willing to bet that due to his armour's nature, the atomic deconstruction would prove less effective. However, if it hit flesh... who knows?
(Note: if you didn't know, positron blaster cannons in the Cosmic Era universe 'fire positrons, the antimatter equivalent of electrons. When the beam comes into contact with something, the positrons and electrons annihilate eachother, causing the target to break down on an atomic level. It also releases pure energy in the form of gamma radiation, according to E=mc2' I realise that the gamma radiation would strengthen hulk, but he would not be there in the first place, as the gamma raditation would only be caused if Hulk actually vapourised. I know his regeneration is good... but I KNOW it's not THAT good)
Phase shift armour would provide protection against hits; that is until the battery drains. However, Gundam can fly up and wait until the battery recharges if that happens. Phase shift armour can protect against anything, as long as the battery remains. It might only stand up to a handful of hits from hulk or Juggernaut, however as I stated, Gundam send the pair of them flying, fly up and wait for the batteries to recharge.
Gundam's targetting systems are highly developed, and would have no trouble hitting Juggernaut or Hulk.
Also, but this is just a guess, I reckon the massively advanced A.I. aboard Gundam would find a way...
I make it sound clear cut... but it is most definetly not; I am simply trying to provide both sides of the arguement, before Wing Ultimate gets destroyed by these Hulk / Juggernaut fanboys... :P
:lol:
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"wrigglybear said:You do realize, you have yet to prove that your smarter than a holocaust denier or a creationist."Admittedly, my knowledge of that Gundam is limited. But isn't he huge? I mean, massve; skyscraper big. This is probably both a blessing and a curse. A punt from Gundam will send Hulk or Juggernaut atmospheric. But does that count as battlefield removal?wow...................."
However, honestly, Gundam is probably stronger than either of them, or at least can apply more force with each of his hits. I doubt his beams will do much to Juggernaut (his armour being pretty badass, or so I'm told). However, the concentrated beams will certainly not leave Hulk unscathed. It is difficult to compare, but looking at the damage it inflicts on static targets (such as buildings) perhaps it is on par with Gladiator's eye beams? Which are capable of piercing Hulk's skin.
Doesn't Gundam have a hammer of somesort? If caught between something REALLY hard (i.e. pure adamantium) and a hit from the hammer I suspect that Hulk (not juggernaut; his armour is stronger) would be pulp. However, blocks of Adamantium aren't just found lying around, and considering that Hulk is probably harder (probably - lol) than concrete or whatever, all it would succeed in doing is make a big hole.
Also, a hit from a positron blaster cannon may prove effective against the heroes, as there is no evidence to prove that Hulk's atom's are 'stronger' (which is impossible - atoms are atoms afterall). It is more difficult to judge it's effects on Juggernaut, as I am willing to bet that due to his armour's nature, the atomic deconstruction would prove less effective. However, if it hit flesh... who knows?
(Note: if you didn't know, positron blaster cannons in the Cosmic Era universe 'fire positrons, the antimatter equivalent of electrons. When the beam comes into contact with something, the positrons and electrons annihilate eachother, causing the target to break down on an atomic level. It also releases pure energy in the form of gamma radiation, according to E=mc2' I realise that the gamma radiation would strengthen hulk, but he would not be there in the first place, as the gamma raditation would only be caused if Hulk actually vapourised. I know his regeneration is good... but I KNOW it's not THAT good)
Phase shift armour would provide protection against hits; that is until the battery drains. However, Gundam can fly up and wait until the battery recharges if that happens. Phase shift armour can protect against anything, as long as the battery remains. It might only stand up to a handful of hits from hulk or Juggernaut, however as I stated, Gundam send the pair of them flying, fly up and wait for the batteries to recharge.
Gundam's targetting systems are highly developed, and would have no trouble hitting Juggernaut or Hulk.
Also, but this is just a guess, I reckon the massively advanced A.I. aboard Gundam would find a way...
I make it sound clear cut... but it is most definetly not; I am simply trying to provide both sides of the arguement, before Wing Ultimate gets destroyed by these Hulk / Juggernaut fanboys... :P
:lol:
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Juggernaut will be invulnerable to the gundam, knock it's guns and engines off, and hulk tears the gundam to pieces.
You do realize, you have yet to prove that your smarter than a holocaust denier or a creationist.What are you on about?
Dreadnaught said:
Juggernaut will be invulnerable to the gundam, knock it's guns and engines off, and hulk tears the gundam to pieces."It's big... really big. They are not going to be able to 'tear it to pieces'. How is Juggernaut going to get at the engines or guns?
"Dreadnaught said:Hulk has tore a asteroid much larger than a gundam apart, juggernaut can simply wait for all the fuel to run out if he wanted too.You do realize, you have yet to prove that your smarter than a holocaust denier or a creationist.What are you on about?
Dreadnaught said:Juggernaut will be invulnerable to the gundam, knock it's guns and engines off, and hulk tears the gundam to pieces."It's big... really big. They are not going to be able to 'tear it to pieces'. How is Juggernaut going to get at the engines or guns?"
"kira isnt that stupidBelieve me, Japanese military men are incredibly stupid, they will fall for some of the most stupidly simple traps you can come up with in the droves. Kira will fall for it and he will be destroyed as juggernaut rips him out of his gundam and rips him in half.
he's a coördinator that means that he is extrememe inteligent"
"Wing Ultimate said:"kira isnt that stupidBelieve me, Japanese military men are incredibly stupid, they will fall for some of the most stupidly simple traps you can come up with in the droves. Kira will fall for it and he will be destroyed as juggernaut rips him out of his gundam and rips him in half."
he's a coördinator that means that he is extrememe inteligent"
lol but thats not a proper opinion
"Dreadnaught said:An opinion is a opinion unless it can be scientifically proven."Wing Ultimate said:"kira isnt that stupidBelieve me, Japanese military men are incredibly stupid, they will fall for some of the most stupidly simple traps you can come up with in the droves. Kira will fall for it and he will be destroyed as juggernaut rips him out of his gundam and rips him in half."
he's a coördinator that means that he is extrememe inteligent"
lol but thats not a proper opinion"
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Regardless whether or not Kira himself is stupid (...), the onboard A.I. is not.
That sentinel made no attempt to try and tear or shake Juggernaut off. Juggernaut is slow and unable to reach the engines thanks to Gundam's height (who says he will ever come within range of Jugger's arms?) and Hulk is vulnerable to certain weapons in Strike Freedom's arsenal.
Dreadnaught said:
"Wing Ultimate said:I think what he meant was... you have no proof of this and are talking out of your arse."Dreadnaught said:An opinion is a opinion unless it can be scientifically proven. ""Wing Ultimate said:"kira isnt that stupidBelieve me, Japanese military men are incredibly stupid, they will fall for some of the most stupidly simple traps you can come up with in the droves. Kira will fall for it and he will be destroyed as juggernaut rips him out of his gundam and rips him in half."
he's a coördinator that means that he is extrememe inteligent"
lol but thats not a proper opinion"
"Wing Ultimate said:Hulk is vulnerable to Strike Freedom's weapons (who also has sufficient targetting to actually hit him); and a car is not going to hurt the 80 ton robot with phase shift armour."but really slow and freedom will just fire high in the skies at them"
then he just bfr'ed himself and if not then he's with in hulks jumping range and i dont care who u are a car thrown by the juggernaught is going to hurt."
How powerful is Juggernaut's shield? Could someone post a scan or a source describing it?
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