Naruto & Sasuke Run the Dragonball Gauntlet

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VS

  1. Yamcha (Dragonball, pre 21st tournament)
  2. Krillin (pre 21st tournament)
  3. Goku ( pre 21st tournament)
  4. Giran
  5. Nam
  6. Krillin (21st tournament)
  7. Goku (21st tournament)
  8. Roshi as Jackie Chun (21st tournament)
  9. Anrdoid 8
  10. General Blue
  11. Mercenary Tao
  12. Goku (after drinking sacred water)
  13. Fangs
  14. Invisible man
  15. Bandages the Mummy
  16. Grandpa Gohan
  17. Tien & Chiaotzu (22nd tourney)
  18. Goku & Krillin (22nd tourney)
  19. Yajirobe
  20. Drum, Cymbal & Tambourine
  21. Demon King Piccolo
  22. Goku (after drinking ultra divine water)
  23. Yamcha, Krillin & Tien and Chiaotzu (23rd Tourney)
  24. Piccolo (23rd Tourney)
  25. Goku (23rd Tourney)
  26. Goku and Piccolo (DBZ, vs Raditz)
  27. Raditz
  28. 4 Saibermen
  29. Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and Chiaotzu (vs Vegeta & Nappa)
  30. Gohan & Piccolo (vs Vegeta vs Nappa)
  31. Vegeta & Nappa
  32. Goku (KaoKen x 3)
  33. Ozaru Vegeta
  34. Appule
  35. Dodoria & Cui
  36. Zarbon (transformed)
  37. Gohan& Krillin (after guru's boost)
  38. Nail
  39. Recoome, Jeice & Burter & Guildo
  40. Ginyu
  41. Vegeta (after various Zenkai boosts)
  42. Freiza
  43. Freiza (2nd form)
  44. Piccolo (synced with Nail)
  45. Freiza (3rd from)
  46. Vegeta (false SSJ)
  47. Goku (vs freiza)
  48. Freiza (final from)
  49. Freiza (100 % power)
  50. SSJ Goku
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Stops at 31

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@marshall_long said:

Stops at 31

Agree. Vegeta would even step in, like he tried when Goku fought Nappa, but Sasuke and Naruto aren't strong enough to instantly end Nappa, so it's likely Nappa wouldn't even die.

Nope, Nappa dies pretty quickly and the duo can take out Vegeta without too much difficulty. I don't see why Sasuke couldn't simply teleport a Goudoudama into his heart.

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*Genjutsu is allowed

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@hulkage: It really comes down to who can one shot each other first this time around. I see the Vegeta and Nappa team taking the majority.

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Both clear

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When did kishi state Nappa was as stong as Madara, and which version of Maddy?

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@ssjbatdan: Genjutsu is not why I think they clear, the reason they clear is because no one in Dbz can take a TSB that's just it, I shouldn't have to go into detail.

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i can see them making it to 34 or 35 then stopping

unless their game plan is to teleport TSB's into the enemies hearts then they make it to final form freiza because he's the only one that can survive a gudodama in his chest and still fight

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@ssjbatdan: They were never damaged by evening elephant.

Truthseeker Orbs is listed as just a ninjutsu (not kekkei mora), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independantly. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely oblitrate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both kekkei genkai and kekkei tota.

I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".

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The Truth seeking orbs don't atomize things they simply turn things into nothing which is completely different from turning things into tiny particles. The black orbs can turn ninjutsu into nothing back to point of zero.

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@ssjbatdan:

Hagoromo was thought to have created their world(or universe) with the Truth seeking orbs.

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We know Kaguya was about to create a whole new universe/dimension with hers.

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So the DB and Manga tell us that the black orbs are a universal power they can be used to create a world (universe, reality, etc) and using yin and yang release imagination can be turned into reality which Hagoromo was a skilled user at. His brother created a sun in the moon. Using a fraction of their power they can create celestial bodies.

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#20  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

Probably stops at 31. Although a case can be made that the combination of Rinnegan Genjutsu, teleportation as well as sealing could allow them to reach 33, but without knowledge that's where they undoubtedly stop.

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#21  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

@oblivion360 said:

i can see them making it to 34 or 35 then stopping

unless their game plan is to teleport TSB's into the enemies hearts then they make it to final form freiza because he's the only one that can survive a gudodama in his chest and still fight

I haven't thought of that...

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I don't see them getting past 40.

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It all seems like you're applying creation logic to the strength of an attack. Goku revived a bird once. What of it?

You're also completely neglecting their speed, and as for Goku, his ability to sense the attack before it's even launched.

If they could do what you claim with ease, why did they have so much trouble?

Twas non canon, but he can transfer his energy to already alive beings, like Freiza.

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@redranger said:

@ssjbatdan said:

It all seems like you're applying creation logic to the strength of an attack. Goku revived a bird once. What of it?

You're also completely neglecting their speed, and as for Goku, his ability to sense the attack before it's even launched.

If they could do what you claim with ease, why did they have so much trouble?

Twas non canon, but he can transfer his energy to already alive beings, like Freiza.

It's canon to the anime, and you did not specify a thing. It's completely beyond the point, though.

The bird might not have been dead though, just close

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Stops at 19. Yajirobe cuts them in half.

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Yajirobe comes after goku/krillian 22nd tourney?? Regardless they don't pass round 26

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Stops at 26, 31 if we're being generous.

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@ssjbatdan:

by episode 1 DBZ goku and Piccolo have surpassed everybody on earth in all feats. Even Roshi had difficulty keeping up with gokus speed during the World tourney and that was before/up to his battle against Junior. Not only are they matched in speed at that point, they are horribly outclassed in terms of power

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#35  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

@vashtanerada88 said:

by episode 1 DBZ goku and Piccolo have surpassed everybody on earth in all feats. Even Roshi had difficulty keeping up with gokus speed during the World tourney and that was before/up to his battle against Junior. Not only are they matched in speed at that point, they are horribly outclassed in terms of power

No they aren't. The only thing goku and Piccolo have over them is energy output. Actual physical strength and durability against non-energy based attacks as well as versatility, goes to Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, they could easily win by having sasuke teleport his sword inside of Goku's heart while Naruto seals Piccolo with a Shukaku rasengan.

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Genjustu doesn't work on beings without chakra. They stop at 31.

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Stop at 31, can't believe Raditz doesn't solo anymore

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@mudamudamuda:

Roshi destroyed the moon(I believe) to stop gokus monkey form. By DBZ's first episode goku and piccolo are wayyy above that in terms of power output. ok(I understand what you mean how its not comparable) but both have had dealt with gun fire(of all arms and calibers) in the DB series and were easily avoiding them or would just tank the bullet with nothing more than a welt. So if Team Naruto does have them beat in speed it isn't by all that much and nothing DB couldn't handle. Naruto&Sasuke have no idea their fighting a Saiyan/Nemekian duo and no nothing about any of their "species traits/tricks" Not to mention Team DB has had more experience fighting/training ( piccolo is the reincarnate of his father and has his memories/power of Demon King P. and Goku has been raised/trained by the best fighters sense from birth)

@ssjbatdan:

How do you figure they have them beat in Durability?? Piccolo can regenerate entire limbs and goku's durability shouldn't even be in question, he has survived more than any of these people and he just keeps on kicking. the only way they could hope to win is teleporting his sword into one of them

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@sheeno64 said:

Genjustu doesn't work on beings without chakra. They stop at 31.

Been debunked.

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Don't make it past 3

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@mudamudamuda:

Roshi destroyed the moon(I believe) to stop gokus monkey form. By DBZ's first episode goku and piccolo are wayyy above that in terms of power output. ok(I understand what you mean how its not comparable) but both have had dealt with gun fire(of all arms and calibers) in the DB series and were easily avoiding them or would just tank the bullet with nothing more than a welt. So if Team Naruto does have them beat in speed it isn't by all that much and nothing DB couldn't handle. Naruto&Sasuke have no idea their fighting a Saiyan/Nemekian duo and no nothing about any of their "species traits/tricks" Not to mention Team DB has had more experience fighting/training ( piccolo is the reincarnate of his father and has his memories/power of Demon King P. and Goku has been raised/trained by the best fighters sense from birth)

Roshi destroying the moon is honestly a massive inconsistency. The same Kamehameha used to destroy the moon was used several times and the results were always mountain level. Both Naruto and Sasuke have shown above re-entry speed as well as lightning timing so dodging bullets isn't exactly what I'd call impressive, although I have no interest in debating speed because "lol speed blitz" is one of the lamest arguments one could make in such an interesting battle. Still, even with speed somehow equalized Naruto and sasuke both posses move reading and precog so that's a huge advantage for them. I don't really see why knowing their race would matter ? Also, both Naruto and Sasuke have been raised as ninjas ever since birth so it goes without saying that they have just as much experience and if you want to get all technical then Naruto and sasuke being the reincarnations of the sage's twin sons who have been fighting for centuries should give them advantage in that area lol

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@mudamudamuda: Because they can control their power, did you read/watch DB? if you did you should know that, just like Piccolo could destroy the moon in a bast or control it to destroy a cliff with a blast

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@redranger said:

@sheeno64 said:

Genjustu doesn't work on beings without chakra. They stop at 31.

Been debunked.

It hasn't been though. It's stated that Six Path created the world of chakra and that chakra effects the chakra nervous system. Kaguya using genjutsu on people is an inconsistency, or an exception because of her power to give chakra.

This nonsense is being repeated for no reason. Since you're claiming it's an inconsistency, give an on-panel example where genjutsu doesn't work because the target doesn't have chakra. Or concede.

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@mudamudamuda: Because they can control their power, did you read/watch DB? if you did you should know that, just like Piccolo could destroy the moon in a bast or control it to destroy a cliff with a blast

That has never been explained... ever. The only way for you to actually limit the range is by decreasing the power of the explosion.

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#48  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

@princearagorn1 said:

@ssjbatdan said:

@redranger said:

@sheeno64 said:

Genjustu doesn't work on beings without chakra. They stop at 31.

Been debunked.

It hasn't been though. It's stated that Six Path created the world of chakra and that chakra effects the chakra nervous system. Kaguya using genjutsu on people is an inconsistency, or an exception because of her power to give chakra.

This nonsense is being repeated for no reason. Since you're claiming it's an inconsistency, give an on-panel example where genjutsu doesn't work because the target doesn't have chakra. Or concede.

Get ready for 10 or so posts of nonsense and dodging around the question, a couple of posts about your logic not makings sense because he could not properly understand what you said, then a final post where he completely ignores the arguments and calls you hopeless, ignorant or spammer lol

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@mudamudamuda: no, they can control the blast, like whereas final flash, , it could've destroyed a galaxy, but it just destroyed what Vegetas wanted it to, which was where cell was

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@mudamudamuda: no, they can control the blast, like whereas final flash, , it could've destroyed a galaxy, but it just destroyed what Vegetas wanted it to, which was where cell was

No they can't. Show me proof not empty claims.