Kizaru vs Kaido

• Kaido starts in base
• Fight at Marineford
• Win via any means necessary

Current Kizaru vs Current Kaido. Who wins?

Kaido high diff til the Current battle expands in the manga.

Either Way

Leaning on Kaido extreme diff

Kaido MId-High diff until further notice

Kaido extreme diff at least until kizaru gets more feats

Kaido mid-high diff

Kaido high diff. Kizaru has the stats but his haki game leaves much to be desired

we'll probably see him using haki in the next few chapters. i highly doubt the admirals aren't proficient haki users.

@allmidas23: we know he at least has basic observation and the first stage of ryuo

he seems to be handling Luffy alright without using any advanced haki techniques. past few chapters have been really good for the admirals. I'm honestly inclined to say he could take on Kaido extreme diff rn but not sure.

Kizaru mid-high diff

Lmao.

Im gonna go With Kizaru now but High-Extream diff hes just too OP with his DF.

This is incredible If he's that strong than akainu must be Roger and WB level.

Also that means Shanks is for sure Stronger than Roger as being hyped for a very long time now unless there is a huge gap between the Admirals which i dont see.

Ahh such a time to be alive and be vindicated aswell... a lotta people looking like clowns since the past few chapters dropped (1092/1093) which just essentially outright proved my take of Admirals ≈ Yonko.

Extreme Diff Either Way.

(Though I've been really impressed so far with Kizaru's kit especially the dozens of light clones combo'd with his light sabers. I'm looking forward to more and more up and coming from Kizaru and G5 Luffy aswell. Oh not to forget Kizaru accelerating past lightspeed which was a treat aswell).

Here we go again.

Kaido mid-high diff. Nothing Kizaru has done compares to Kaido's feats against Luffy so far.

@allmidas23: fair enough

Kaido now. That’ll change soon tho.

let's get some actual debate in here.

Probaly Kaido very high diff but in theory could go either way. Kizaru's powers are very versatile and there are not many counter feats/statements against him. That said, Kaido's durability makes me lean towards his win for now if I have to choose one. This take might get old soon tho when we possibly get to see more feats for Kizaru.

Kizaru seems like the better fighter, his speed and versatility are making G5 look like a joke. He should beat kaido, just take a while to deal with his durability and endurance

@plaguedocter: It’s funny seeing the people who essentially labelled the admirals as fodder to Luffy do a complete 180 and dickride them. People really thought Oda would build up the admirals for 10+ years just to shit on them. 💀

Kaido high diff

It was only a matter of time before someone would do this fight.

Kizaru has yet to do anything that would exceed Kaido's performance.

It's still up in the air how far he will push G5 or if Saturn will intervene.

Mind you, it's not even clear what Big Mom and Kaido's fates are.

@tektonic: hes been fighting G4 and g5 and taking 0 damage, thats already a much better start than kaido. He’s handling G5 luffy much more casually than kaido ever did.

Kizaru has shown nothing to suggest he has the firepower to reliably damage Kaido.

That Kaido came from fighting against samurai´s, against Zoro, against Law, against Kid, and all that while making Onigashima fly and move.

Kizaru comes from fighting with Sentomaru...

Not to mention Kaido inflicted actual damage on G5 with several attacks (Boro Breath, wind scythes, his stronger Thunder Bagua variants and of course the Flame Dragon) something Kizaru has yet to do.

Kaido takes this with Extreme difficulty.

@shirso: raws are out and kizaru seems to do some massive damage with a single laser blast. Snakeman Luffy also definitely got hurt by kizaru’s charged kick.

You mean this?

In what world is that damage lol

@shirso said:

@manimalman said:

@shirso: raws are out and kizaru seems to do some massive damage with a single laser blast. Snakeman Luffy also definitely got hurt by kizaru’s charged kick.

You mean this?

In what world is that damage lol

It seems the consensus is he absorbed and released the light.

Kaido on the other hand hurt him with all of the following against Luffy in G5:

• Bit him in his giant form causing him to scream
• Blasted him far away from Onigashima with boro breath leaving him blackened
• Bashed his head through the roof with Ragnaraku
• Struck him multiple times with Gundari Meteor Shower
• Did serious damage with Death Destroyer Thunder Bagua
• And of course the final showdown with Flame Dragon

Not including all the random haki infused swings or air blades that caused him to bleed or cry out in pain.

@tektonic:

It seems the consensus is he absorbed and released the light.

Yeah, I have no clue where tf he got "massive damage" from lol

hahahhahahaha, bro, i actually laughed out loud when i read this, lol, hahahahahahahahahahaha, my man kizaru on fraud watch

@shirso: fair enough, we’ll find out how much damage he took next week.

Why'd you even assume he took damage, Kizaru's lasers normally never behave like that, it's clear this is some G5 shenanigans to refract the light or something...

Kaido high diff, his endurance is still too much for Kizaru to handle. Kizaru also has no way of dealing with the Flame Susanoo (assuming he even needs to use it)

Kizaru wins

Kaido gets clowned worse then G5 Luffy

@tektonic: @shirso:

Luffy just by getting hit by the smallest graze from a single one of the dozens of holograms' light sabers and he was damaged and cut.

And Luffy after freaking out again trying to save his crew he then ate the laser beam Kizaru shot being hurt quite a bit once again by the heat of Kizaru's.

Kizaru has the speed, the ap, the devil fruit, etc... he has shown off more than enough to say he'd give like anyone in the verse a high to extreme diff fight at least.

Kaido.

This man jumps of sky islands and survive only getting a small headache. I don't think kizaru is up against a person like that. But i still think that there is time for kizaru to grow. Maybe in the upcoming seasons he might be a worthy foe.

Kaido has blitzed Gear 5 Luffy and has clashed with Bajrang Gun for an extended period of time. Kaido is the superior fighter, let's stop with the recency bias. Kizaru has yet to show AP on par with even Luffy's Over Kong Gun as of this moment.

Kaido. Another emperor might be in trouble tho 👀

Kaido high diff for now

in-verse it'll end up Kizaru withdrawing once he realize he can't win

@plaguedocter said:

@tektonic: @shirso:

Luffy just by getting hit by the smallest graze from a single one of the dozens of holograms' light sabers and he was damaged and cut.

And Luffy after freaking out again trying to save his crew he then ate the laser beam Kizaru shot being hurt quite a bit once again by the heat of Kizaru's.

Kizaru has the speed, the ap, the devil fruit, etc... he has shown off more than enough to say he'd give like anyone in the verse a high to extreme diff fight at least.

Damn,someone who is piss weak to swords got hurt by a sword...insane feat lol

Classic CV bias...Kaido mid diffs

Kizaru matched G5 Luffy who is stronger than Kaido so cope harder

Kaido high diffs

Nice counter argument.

Someone who claims Ruffy is stronger as Kaido is by default a joke and deserfs any mockery it can get

@shirso: he was bleeding from the light sword and the raws made it look like he was burning from the inside.

Translations out now and he’s screaming about it being hot so looks like it really did burn him not just harmlessly refract.