@depinhom: I think the speed of his mech suite is going to be an issue. It was that slow that Wolverine should have no issue stabbing him in the face.
FOX Wolverine vs DCEU Batman
Batman seems to outclass him in every category except durability. I think he should win by KO.
What about damage output, speed, strength (excluding the Mech Suite), healing factor etc?
Hell their skill is even debatable:
Batman has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his armor tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Unfortunately the moment he does this against Wolverine his armor isn't going to stop his claws (adamantium ones at least).
Wolverine has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his healing factor and durability tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Fortunately for him, Batman does not have the damage out put to keep him down.
@captain_batman_ftw: I'm not so sure. He could easily keep his distance and use his firepower. The suit was strong enough to knock around Superman - it won't have an issue with Logan.
His mech suit managed to survive a direct punch to the face by superman which was strong enough to create a full shockwave, so he survived more than being thrown through walls of concrete at over 100mph. I can tell superman wasn't holding back there since all of his punches in MoS created shockwaves.
This was about 5 seconds before Superman stated he was holding back.
What are you talking about? You should watch the scene again or read my paragraph again. I own the ultimate edition and re-watched this scene dozens of times already. After smashing batman through a building and throwing him down on the rooftop he stated "If I wanted it you'll be dead already". The fight eventually ended up inside the GCPD building and in the bathroom where he leaped to do a ground pound on batman which involved a shockwave. Batman was hit in the face then was thrown meters away by the shockwave. Seeing that all his hits in MoS were shockwaves it obviously that put good effort in that ground pound. Superman was not holding back on the ground pound which makes sense, since earlier in the film it was told to him that words don't do anything to batman but only fists(check out Clark Kent in Gotham scene). Superman tried talking to batman earlier in this fight but since he's not getting through to him, it's reasonable that he knew the only way to get through him is with violence.
@captain_batman_ftw: I'm not so sure. He could easily keep his distance and use his firepower. The suit was strong enough to knock around Superman - it won't have an issue with Logan.
His mech suit managed to survive a direct punch to the face by superman which was strong enough to create a full shockwave, so he survived more than being thrown through walls of concrete at over 100mph. I can tell superman wasn't holding back there since all of his punches in MoS created shockwaves.
This was about 5 seconds before Superman stated he was holding back.
What are you talking about? You should watch the scene again or read my paragraph again. I own the ultimate edition and re-watched this scene dozens of times already. After smashing batman through a building and throwing him down on the rooftop he stated "If I wanted it you'll be dead already". The fight eventually ended up inside the GCPD building and in the bathroom where he leaped to do a ground pound on batman which involved a shockwave. Batman was hit in the face then was thrown meters away by the shockwave. Seeing that all his hits in MoS were shockwaves it obviously that put good effort in that ground pound. Superman was not holding back on the ground pound which makes sense, since earlier in the film it was told to him that words don't do anything to batman but only fists(check out Clark Kent in Gotham scene). Superman tried talking to batman earlier in this fight but since he's not getting through to him, it's reasonable that he knew the only way to get through him is with violence.
So you're assuming that Superman was not holding back and couldn't kill Bruce even though he was trying to? Because of a shockwave? Or maybe Snyder thinks shockwaves look cool so he added one in? I could even believe that Superman was hitting him harder then before but he certainly wasn't trying to kill him, if he was Bruce would of been killed in a second. Compare how hard Superman and Zod were hitting one another in MOS, that's what Superman's hits look like when he's trying to kill.
Batman seems to outclass him in every category except durability. I think he should win by KO.
What about damage output, speed, strength (excluding the Mech Suite), healing factor etc?
Hell their skill is even debatable:
Batman has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his armor tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Unfortunately the moment he does this against Wolverine his armor isn't going to stop his claws (adamantium ones at least).
Wolverine has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his healing factor and durability tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Fortunately for him, Batman does not have the damage out put to keep him down.
This compared to Batman in fighting speed is nowhere close. Also in terms of strength you can see Batman pulling a crate probably at least 150-200 pounds with one hand and making it fly across the room. And if we look at durability we can see a military grade weapon being fired at Bats and just bouncing off his armour. Where as in X-2 Wolverine got knocked out for like 2 minutes from a standard police hand gun.
@captain_batman_ftw: I'm not so sure. He could easily keep his distance and use his firepower. The suit was strong enough to knock around Superman - it won't have an issue with Logan.
His mech suit managed to survive a direct punch to the face by superman which was strong enough to create a full shockwave, so he survived more than being thrown through walls of concrete at over 100mph. I can tell superman wasn't holding back there since all of his punches in MoS created shockwaves.
This was about 5 seconds before Superman stated he was holding back.
What are you talking about? You should watch the scene again or read my paragraph again. I own the ultimate edition and re-watched this scene dozens of times already. After smashing batman through a building and throwing him down on the rooftop he stated "If I wanted it you'll be dead already". The fight eventually ended up inside the GCPD building and in the bathroom where he leaped to do a ground pound on batman which involved a shockwave. Batman was hit in the face then was thrown meters away by the shockwave. Seeing that all his hits in MoS were shockwaves it obviously that put good effort in that ground pound. Superman was not holding back on the ground pound which makes sense, since earlier in the film it was told to him that words don't do anything to batman but only fists(check out Clark Kent in Gotham scene). Superman tried talking to batman earlier in this fight but since he's not getting through to him, it's reasonable that he knew the only way to get through him is with violence.
So you're assuming that Superman was not holding back and couldn't kill Bruce even though he was trying to? Because of a shockwave? Or maybe Snyder thinks shockwaves look cool so he added one in? I could even believe that Superman was hitting him harder then before but he certainly wasn't trying to kill him, if he was Bruce would of been killed in a second. Compare how hard Superman and Zod were hitting one another in MOS, that's what Superman's hits look like when he's trying to kill.
It's been hinted earlier in the film. That ground pound was defiantly was not much hold back there. The mech suit was designed to take blows from superman. The shockwave superman created defiantly proves effort if not entire strength. In MoS superman wasn't exactly trying to kill.
Batman seems to outclass him in every category except durability. I think he should win by KO.
What about damage output, speed, strength (excluding the Mech Suite), healing factor etc?
Hell their skill is even debatable:
Batman has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his armor tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Unfortunately the moment he does this against Wolverine his armor isn't going to stop his claws (adamantium ones at least).
Wolverine has a simple but very effective style. It's direct and relies on his healing factor and durability tanking hits to allow him to land a knockout or killing blow. Fortunately for him, Batman does not have the damage out put to keep him down.
1. Batman
2. Wolverine stomps
3. Batman
Batman all rounds
Fox Wolverine loses consciousness for like 2 minutes after he is his by just a bullet.
I don't think Batman will have any troubles KO'ing him with an explosive and then tying him up ending the fight. He will only have some troubles in Round 2, but I think he should still win the majority there, the rest is a stomp.
Rnd 1: Batman
Rnd 2: Wolverine eviscerates Batman.
Rnd 3: Hmmmnnn. I THINK Wolverine MIGHT get to Batman eventually...though Batman might just step on him and keep him there if he can...
1. Batman
2. Wolverine stomps
3. Batman
This. Wolverine gets wanked a lot, he got taken down by a random cop ffs.
I love how people ignore all the times Logan walked through bullets like nothing, and keep pointing to his worst low end feat.
What's with this idea that Wolverine doesn't do well against skilled opponents? He won both those fights with Mystique and Deathstrike.
What's with this idea that Wolverine doesn't do well against skilled opponents? He won both those fights with Mystique and Deathstrike.
He didn't actually beat them in fights though, at least not because of skill. Mystique beat him, left and then tried to trick him but didn't know about his senses. Lady Deathstrike had him beat as well and he has to resort to pumping her with adamantium.
OT: He guts Bruce all rounds
This isn't fair with wolverines healing ability. And I don't think bats could KO Logan.
batfleck Gets gutted.
Batman all rounds
Fox Wolverine loses consciousness for like 2 minutes after he is his by just a bullet.
I don't think Batman will have any troubles KO'ing him with an explosive and then tying him up ending the fight. He will only have some troubles in Round 2, but I think he should still win the majority there, the rest is a stomp.
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@uugieboogie: They were both more agile than him, and Lady Deathstrike seemed to be vastly stronger as well, yet even though that allowed them to land more hits, Logan was still at least on par with them as far as martial arts go. They were faster, and he was tougher. They landed a greater quantity of hits, but his hits were all superior quality. You have to understand that is Logan's fighting style, he doesn't land a great number of hits, but whenever he does, they are critical strikes. Then, he was able to finish it by outsmarting them both, proving his cunning. They made mistakes, it's as simple as that, Logan beat them fair and square. Neither of them had him "beat" as you say, rather they took momentary advantages which Logan was able to reverse and use to win the fights.
@uugieboogie: They were both more agile than him, and Lady Deathstrike seemed to be vastly stronger as well, yet even though that allowed them to land more hits, Logan was still at least on par with them as far as martial arts go. They were faster, and he was tougher. They landed a greater quantity of hits, but his hits were all superior quality. You have to understand that is Logan's fighting style, he doesn't land a great number of hits, but whenever he does, they are critical strikes. Then, he was able to finish it by outsmarting them both, proving his cunning. They made mistakes, it's as simple as that, Logan beat them fair and square. Neither of them had him "beat" as you say, rather they took momentary advantages which Logan was able to reverse and use to win the fights.
Logan wasn't really on par with them in terms of martial skill. The thing that saved him in both fights were his claws and his healing factor. He ONLY stabbed mystique because she had her guard down and tried to trick him by pretending to be Storm. She didn't know about his enhanced senses or that he could tell it wasn't her. When she was actually attacking she was dominating him the entire time.
Logan was only able to reverse his situation with Lady Deathstrike is because of his healing factor, not his skill. She already had him sliced multiple times before he landed a single hit on her. Logan would've been dead in that first 15 seconds on their fight and was able to come back because of his healing factor, not his skill.
Assuming batman came in throwing some batarangs and wolverine made it obvious he can heal and to stop trying, batman in bvs is very likely to go for straight kill moves. Nothing to stop batman from shooting a grapple hook through wolverine and swinging him around. The claws dont make wolverine good enough to tag batman if batman is way superior h2h.
R1. Batman
R2. Very close, idk if batman keeps any magnetic tools on belt, but getting not killed is what this guy does best, his reactions in bvs against doomsday show how well he can stay out of harms way, wolverine just takes whatever, but he can be tied up and subdued. Batman has to just not get stabbed.
R3. This is dumb.. logan def wins this. Adamantium could honestly cut through anything batman has, and he’s a slower target. This is meant to reduce dmg from superman while leading him to a place..basically a prep device. He’d be too slow to keep up with logan, but if he does hit him a few times, or out fights him..maybe a tiny chance, but logan has the better odds
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