Fernus vs WorldbreakerHulk
Still WBH.
Still WBH.
? you only answered once?
@thedailybagel: Interesting, I didn't think telepathy would work on a Hulk of this level. Wouldn't his mind be inpentrable at World Breaker levels?
@heirtothekingdom: it wouldn't work for most marvel telepaths, but j'onns TP is on a whole different level. There's far too much going for it saying it will work than hulk has saying it won't.
@thedailybagel: Oh I see
Fernus all day
Fernus.
fernus
Fernus stomps.
Fernus stomps hard!
TP or phasing, take your pick.
Fernus.
Lol... Fernus stomps.
Fernus.
Fernus wins easily even against this incarnation of Hulk.
Fernus lolstomps.
Fernus.
^
Still WBH.
If Thanos can control Hulk for a good bit, Fernus can at least put him down
If this was regular MMH, then I'd say he can't win due to emotions making it harder for him to use his powers, but Fernus doesn't care so this doesn't matter here.
If Thanos can control Hulk for a good bit, Fernus can at least put him down
If this was regular MMH, then I'd say he can't win due to emotions making it harder for him to use his powers, but Fernus doesn't care so this doesn't matter here.
It's not just that "emotions makes it harder", it's that ALL of Hulk's attributes rise with his anger, including resistance to being controlled. Noone has been able to come close to controlling Green Scar, much less worldbreaker Hulk.
Fernus with TP wins with certain difficulty. This would be a High Herald (maybe Low Transcendent) vs a Mid Herald.
Fernus without TP, would be good fight!
@20damon: That's because the telepaths that were trying to take him down weren't at Fernus's level.
We're talking about the guy who was doing stuff that his regular self had to struggle to do, like modify Joker's mind (which has been shown to be pretty much immune to mind games or any sort of telepathy in the past, yet Fernus changed him and everyone else in Arkham Asylum into sane people, who were literally breaking down because they realised the impact of their crimes)
And this was before J'onn even became Fernus. This was when it was just a small subconscious within him, yet he was doing that casually along with mind wiping people all over the planet and hiding his true self from everyone else.
Keep in mind that regular Manhunter was fighting against Starro by himself with Aquaman (who was a being with five galaxies worth of minds to use, even Despero couldn't beat him in direct TP) and had prevented nine White Martians (who scale close to Manhunter himself through not as good as him) who had been amped a million times beyond their standard power levels from entering his mind via TP.
When he became Fernus, he was TP'ing the Justice League casually, which is something he's basically never done before.
I believe that Fernus can put Hulk down because people like Emma Frost or whatever aren't near MMH level, let alone Fernus. There's no comparison.
@20damon: That's because the telepaths that were trying to take him down weren't at Fernus's level.
We're talking about the guy who was doing stuff that his regular self had to struggle to do, like modify Joker's mind (which has been shown to be pretty much immune to mind games or any sort of telepathy in the past, yet Fernus changed him and everyone else in Arkham Asylum into sane people, who were literally breaking down because they realised the impact of their crimes)
And this was before J'onn even became Fernus. This was when it was just a small subconscious within him, yet he was doing that casually along with mind wiping people all over the planet and hiding his true self from everyone else.
Keep in mind that regular Manhunter was fighting against Starro by himself with Aquaman (who was a being with five galaxies worth of minds to use, even Despero couldn't beat him in direct TP) and had prevented nine White Martians (who scale close to Manhunter himself through not as good as him) who had been amped a million times beyond their standard power levels from entering his mind via TP.
When he became Fernus, he was TP'ing the Justice League casually, which is something he's basically never done before.
I believe that Fernus can put Hulk down because people like Emma Frost or whatever aren't near MMH level, let alone Fernus. There's no comparison.
Xenmu has some insane telepathy feats, including TP-ing billions of beings at the same time, shitstomping characters like Strange with his TP, effortlessly TP-ing other characters, but he couldn't touch Green Scar.... so.... unstoppable force meets immovable object.... Neither of us can PROVE the other has the edge in that battle.
@kevd4wg: If that's actually consistent for Xenmu, then he's not comparable to Fernus. Moondragon is a high mid tier at best.
Fernus probably wins, but I’m not sure TP is a viable option. Hulk’s TP resistance gets better with anger and in his normal Green Scar form has already thrown out Professor X and Emma Frost at the same time and was immune to Xenmu.
It’s unquantifiable but WBH should be a good deal harder to TP than Green Scar who’s already up there with the best in terms of mental resistance.
@kevd4wg: If that's actually consistent for Xenmu, then he's not comparable to Fernus. Moondragon is a high mid tier at best.
Yeah I think I've seen Battle-axe say Cho-Hulk resisted him too
@kevd4wg: Cho-Hulk as well? lol, that's ass
@professorrespect: I remember She-Hulk fought him in her original run too, but I can't remember what happened with that.
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