@zenkaigod:
Lol no. DC is 5D
Iihiko blinks the whole verse.
If he can negate any fictional hax, Lucifer gets killed by the rubberband. Once the rubberband bisects Lucifer, he can never come back to life. Any destruction from Iihiko is based on fictional things that cannot be undone by real life things. Iihiko is a real human that takes our reality as his power. Since us humans/readers can rip Featherine’s drawing, thus killing her permanently. We delete demonbane’s and Azathoth image, thus killing demonbane and Azathoth permanently. Before anyone said that he was hit by a car, this is according to Iihiko’s plan since he can possess characters and he wasn’t hit by a car at all. And iihiko let Medaka hit him for possessing another character.
The destruction that Iihiko deals to anything is impossible to heal or repair. A glass he smashes will stay smashed. An arm he breaks will never heal. This irreversible destruction trumps even reality warping or any healing ability used on it. If Iihiko wounds you by ANY means, whether by using a weapon or letting you hit him, you will be injured forever.
The second thing that makes Iihiko so powerful is that he ignores powers. Iihiko has blatantly ignored any fictional hax. He blatantly ignored dealing hax from bookmaker, a skill that can deal anything and they can’t escape from it and it seals anything and any powers and stats. He cannot be reality warped, cannot be affected by time control or any sort of energy attack. If it’s any sort of superpower, Iihiko literally just doesn’t register it as an attack, and it doesn’t affect him. To best describe what fighting Iihiko is like, imagine some kids on the playground playing X-men. All the kids playing play along, pretending each other has the powers of the X-men they chose. Then Iihiko strolls in, and they all try shooting him with pretend Cyclops laser beams or cutting him with sticks between their fingers to imitate wolverine’s claws. Iihiko just starts beating the shit out of them with his fists while they run away screaming “You’re supposed to be dead, I shot you with my laser!” Powers and abilities literally do not affect him whatsoever.
So now you’re thinking, “Okay, so I guess you just have to beat him in a straight up fist fight.” Okay, so that leads into the last thing that makes Iihiko OP. The best offense is a good defense, and Iihiko’s defense is lethal as fuck. Any attack used against Iihiko is broken down and turned on the attacker instead. If you punch him, you will take damage instead of him. The stronger the attack you use on Iihiko, the more damage the user will take.
Iihiko is a representation of the reader in the story. Every time he cries out for something fresh it's the bored reader who cries out for something new (the kanji for fresh and new is the same). His immunity to everything stems from this exact characteristic of being a "real entity" or his powers embody "real life" (a hint given to us by the author himself is when Medaka shows that she would be torn apart if she copied her strength in the same way she did shatters a notebook where her own drawing was - note the allegory of Iihiko's strength to the strength of a Jump reader who can easily tear up the magazine). Iihiko could not be simply tricked into recognizing something or someone, as this is an element of his subconscious/unconscious. Because of these characteristics no matter the origin or properties of the power or ability, no matter how infinite, conceptual, transcendent or whatever, they will always be treated as mere fiction in the face of Iihiko's subjective immunity (which is a characteristic of his representation from reality as I already mentioned). Its destruction is irreversible because it is real, it is the strength and actions of a real reader that cannot be undone by any fictional element be it healing, regeneration, resurrection, temporal rewind, causality reversal, reality warping, history change, plot manipulation, fate manipulation, event denial, conceptual destruction, etc (in fact all this was tried in the manga, but nothing worked). Iihiko is so unique that even if Yuzuriha mimicked his existence on a conceptual level she couldn't beat him or even tie with him (said in the manga) and Nisio who commented that Hanten could create infinite skills and is still inferior to Ajimu could not defeat him either (all this already said by the author). Besides the fact that he is a hero and the narrative will always be on his side, because in this case the narrative refers to the author himself.
Also, the author states that iihiko can only be defeated if he hit himself. This is why that characters like featherine, Hajun, demonbane, and Omnipotents in fiction cannot truly defeat the real human being named iihiko.
For instance, i tell you how his hax works. Let’s say we have Reinhard Heydrich(Dies Irae) he throw his conceptual spear at Iihiko, however Iihiko denies reinhard’s spear and Reinhard cannot use his hax anymore since Iihiko views it as fiction, then he bisects Reinhard with a rubber band and permanently kills Reinhard and ignore all of his hax, resistance, and immortality since Iihiko is a meta-narrative real life human that view all of the infinite Omniverse of other powerful fictional verse as fiction. Another thing of how Iihiko hax is that he can bypass any defensive ability, for example, if you have accelerator with his vector shields, kamijou touma’s imagine breaker, Reimu’s fantasy nature, Giorno’s GER, and Battler’s endless nine, Iihiko can simply bypass these defensive ability and permanently kills them by his strength and anything that he throws(Like his rubber band) since his ability reflects our real life reality and these defensive abilities are fiction to Iihiko.
Iihiko’s thinking reflects our reality. ANY POWER YOU SEND AGAINST HIM, OF ANY WORK AND ANY CHARACTER, iihiko denies that.
Also DC verse isn’t beyond 5D because all of feats are hyperbole and flowery language.
Ignore the Medaka box downplayers since they use ad populum fallacy, they use vs battle wiki/reddit/amino/spacebattles, and they disingenuously downplay the verse, and they don’t understand the meaning of the Medaka box manga and the symbolism of the characters like Iihiko and ajimu.
The Medaka box cosmology is based on our real planet earth where we can view ultimate Madoka, a Multiversal reality warper, as fiction.
All Medaka box characters are boundless due to that logic.
Just because The Medaka box downplayers don't like it doesn't mean it's not viable. Meta-narrative is definitely a tier above multiversal(or in vs battle wiki terms Outerversal+++) You can't specifically ignore points you don't like because you can't argue against meta-narrative.
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