Current MUI Goku and True Granola vs Current Beerus

still beerus

Beerus mid to high diff

beerus but its gonna be a good fight

It has never been proven that beerus is stronger. The dragon's statement is vague as fck and Granola stomps. Lol at Beerus winning.

For now, I don't think he can take them both, but he does fold them mid-diff 1v1.

Beerus wins. The dragon plainly states that it couldn't make Granolah surpass the gods. Goku and Granolah are both relative to Vegeta, who's definitely below Beerus. The perpetual goalpost moving done to keep that damn cat relevant annoys me, but unfortunately that's how they wrote it.

Either team in an hard fight, or Beerus probably wins as much as I hate to say it...

Keeping Beerus as the top dog in Universe 7 is kinda annoying. Excluding Whis, of course.

I’d say Beerus wins 8/10.

@nixtollo: My man Whis deserves to remain on top, it's just that Toyopedro and Toriyama love this cat for whatever reason smh. 😖

Beerus stomps using only 20% of his power lol like I said only current Vegito or Gogeta stand a chance that’s it.

Beerus wins , but it won't be easy

Beerus stomps zero difficulty

beerus stomps the fodder

beerus wins easily

Beerus still finger flicks

Beerus is around one septillion times universal so he wins.

With heavy nerfs to Goku MUi and constant retcons of Beerus power levels he wins unfortunately.

Goku was way ahead of Beerus after his Moro fight, but was retconned by power levels of granola and vegeta sadly.

Also noted Goku could still be above Beerus his goal is to be low Angel tier like Mérus

God I hate that this can still be discussed when Goku had already surpassed him years ago during the ToP. Goku will be training with the grand priest by the time we can stop wondering if Beerus can beat Goku or not

Who wins? The one who gets retconned every arc/movie.

MUI Goku is only good for like 15 seconds. As stated his accuracy and reactions drop rapidly the longer he is in the form.

But for those 15 seconds he's a beast. And could probably swerve Beerus hard until he starts losing power.

@scotchbear: except in the previous arc he basically mastered it against Moro, he held it for long periods of time even was so tough Moro (who is/should be stronger than Jiren and Broly who were both in the Beerus ballpark if not outright above at the time of their introduction) broke his entire arm but punching Goku there is no logical way Beerus should be above Goku and definitely not that much above Moro who’s is a Jiren level threat,

Same Jiren who is stronger than belmond who Beerus can’t just fodderize the way Goku stomped Moro it just doesn’t make sense

Beerus due to his stupid retcon stomps

The Dragon statement was vague like someone already said and don't we have on panel statements of Jiren being stronger than the GoDs and Goku curbstomping him? Beerus wank is getting out of hand.

Goku solos.

Beerus stomps.

Beerus most likely wins. I'm not sure he stomps though.

Also adding on the fact that Merus stated he wouldn't fall to Moro or anyone after being able to do it at will. That would also include Beerus. Literally a direct statement that MUI Goku is > Beerus.

Beerus has no statement or feat to suggest he's above MUI, but that won't stop the stans from creating imaginary confirmation.

@pandaemperoriv: didn't granola 1 shot mui goku and now vegeta after his asspulled karate kid tier training under beerus about to stomp granola?

next issue will tell us - but from this alone beerus > mui

@thorwins1875: Granola targeted his vital point after having him wear down Goku's MUI with his clone by his own admission. He could not see any weakness in his defense prior to this.

Also why do you think Vegeta will stomp Granola. Vegeta is 100% getting beat here. History has shown this to always be the case. Then he'll come back and get stronger and master his new form.

@pandaemperoriv: sounds like cope and excuses for mui getting outplayed and 1 shot effortlessly also vegeta literally tanked that same attack and laughed it off seconds later so yeah point still stands unrefuted

@thorwins1875: Nah it's not. Let me know when you have a better argument besides "cope!". Beerus isn't Granola. One can see the interworkings of your bloodflow and neuron signals throughout someone's body while the other can't. Saying Beerus wins because Granola hits his vital point is silly since Beerus has no feats to suggest that he can do this. Vegeta didn't "tank" anything. He lost his form, keeled over while coughing up blood. If anything Goku takes it better than he does before Granola knocks him out after he reverted to base.

@pandaemperoriv: more cope

@thorwins1875:

@pandaemperoriv:

Beerus >>> Hakaishin Vegeta >= PUI Goku

You need to get past Beerus' pupil before trying to wank Goku above Beerus lmao.

@crxckerkiid: Jiren is currently fodder who gets stomped by SSBE Vegeta after training with Beerus.

The poor delusional Jiren stans on Comic vine can't accept that reality.

still beerus

@pandaemperoriv: whis made it clear Goku hadn't fully mastered UI

@thorwins1875: Lmfai😂😂😂

MUI Goku at his peak is significantly superior to Granolah. Granolah's victory over Goku is completely circumstantial. Beerus being within Belmod's league does not help his case either, given their performances in the Zen Exhibition Match, as this puts him equal, or more realistically inferior, to Jiren.

Goku solos.

@noobsnowman: Except current Vegeta SSBE (not counting his new Destruction form) >>> fodder Jiren.

@scotchbear: Yes I know. That's pretty clear.

@walrico: These Beerus denialists must be reading some fanfic version of the manga when Beerus' new pupil stomps Jiren WITHOUT his new Destruction form. Just SSBE.

Lololol I said over a year ago in the dragon ball forum no one is surpassing Beerus until it is explcitly stated and no one believed me. I said based upon just traditional story telling it wouldn't make sense for goku to have surpassed Beerus without the two having fought after the ToP. Beerus was introduced as a wall for goku to break and you'd be foolish to think Toriyama would have him surpass that wall without the two fighting.

Beerus.