"All" the Uchiha vs. "All" the Summers (X-Men)

Uchiha: Madara (No Edo Tensei but Rinnegan permissible), Izuna, Obito, Fagaku, Baru, Sasuke, Itachi (Healthy), Shisui, Sarada

Summers: Corsair, Cyclops, Hope, Vulcan, Havok, Cable, Nate Grey, Rachel Grey-Summers

Round 1: Standard versions
Round 2: Everyone at their absolute peak as displayed in (e.g., composite versions, but only Rachel can be the Phoenix).
Round 3: Like Round 2 but Uchiha have 3 days prep.

Assume perfect teamwork, energy and chakra are equally manipulable by the same techniques, genjutsu and TP work the same (even if you personally believe they do not; that is another discussion)

Who wins and why?

Rachel should low+diff them with tp

Nate solo, Rachel Solo, Cable solo, Vulcan solo

Because telepathy and energy manipulation.

I don't necessarily disagree, but how could I equalize this fight?

Round 2 Uchiha can't win no matter what

Round 3 I don't think Uchiha prep do much

Probably just remove genjutsu and telepathy completely and make it energy based fight, but people like Nate and Vulcan are still way above Uchiha in firepower.

Yeah I noticed that these Omega Level mutants are broken as all get out.

Summers.

The Summers have too much power where it counts, be it mental or in energy projection. I mean, how do they want to stop Nate?

Only arguable one is Round 1. Round 2 and 3 Summer Family shitstomp

Shouldn’t Nate or cable solo?

@ecoblitz: so should Vulcan, Rachel and Hope considering she'll have the combined powers of every mutant here. Corsair is the only one that doesn't belong here.

No love for Hope? Aside from lord, no one has mentioned the fact that Hope can mimic every single one of the Summers family powers.

I seriously think the Summers family stomps every round, it would take a lot to convince me otherwise due to the large amount of omegas here.

Nate should solo all rounds... Cable could do it except they probably would blitz him

@warlockmage: Cable at half power has tk sensitivity, he can launch tk probes that let him sense the physical world. At full power his psi spread all over the world and allowed him to briefly fight Silver Surfer. He's not getting blitzed in this fight.

Hmmm, okay

Nate solos the verse.

@lordofallhumans: you deleted your comment? I still got a notification of it lol

R1- Nate and/or Rachel can solo
R2- The kids stomp the verse.
R3- Not enough prep in the world to handle Shaman Nate, Phoenix Rachel an Savior Cable at once.

Team Summers. Only relevant Uchiha here are Madara, Obito, Itachi and Sasuke and don’t think they have enough to deal with the Summers Family.

@invadedtbd: If shisui is as impressive as hyped up to be he might be an issue

@streak619

@hypnos0929: Yeah I forgot about him.

@invadedtbd: The only thing I know, I haven't finished shipuden admittedly, is he was supposedly the best visual jutsu user to the point even Itachi was below him. He even was able to break Kabuto's reanimation control over Itachi. Bad issue is apparently the high end move of breaking that jutsu made the eyes unusable for 12 or 15 years.

I think with prep, between Kotoamatsukami, Izanagi, and Izanami, the Uchiha should be able to do the thing. Without prep there are just too many Omega-level mutants running wild like Hogan in the 80s.

@captfalcon725: How do you prep for someone like Shaman Nate?

Uchiha speedblitz everyone to death.

With the hax to alter reality. Kotoamatsukami, if used correctly, is actually a decent counter for Nate. Unlike other genjutsu, it doesn't work as an analogue to TP, which obviously Shaman Nate would simply no sell the s**t out of.

The prep match is their best shot and I think they pull it off.

@captfalcon725: It is more about things like time stopping, existing without an actual body, BFR'ing the whole other side, completely crush them with TP and other things he can do. He is basically all Uchihas in one person.

And then you also have Phoenix Rachel, Savior Cable and the whole rest of the Summers

@hypnos0929: yeah and Danzo also used it at the hokage summit to try to influence the other kage but Aoi(the dude from the hidden mist with byakugan) figured it out and exposed him

Shisui’s MS seeemed pretty op to bad they killed him off and only showed snippets. BTW u should finish shippuden it’s pretty good and naruto and sasuke get crazy strong.

Team summers

@invadedtbd: I'm at the part where they are finishing off the old kage leaders.

@ruthlesskiller: luled at your answer....just, just no.

OT: Nate solos all rounds.

omegalul at them not getting their molecules dispersed on the place by nate.

Xman solos and it ain’t close

Actually debateable in round 1 since Nate is often an idiot and he's the only one that can 100% hang with everything on the other team barring TP spam.

But Phoenix Rachel tanked planet cracking magma eruptions and the creation of a sun in her face.....what are they blitzing her with?

Marvel team all three rounds. Uchiha’s get taken out quickly with body manip before they can spam off their hax, especially with shit equal. The other rounds are just a stomp for the Summers clan at their heights of power.

summers stomp hard

@koays: their handsome faces?

They lose every other round. Phoenix force is too much.

@ruthlesskiller: Their faces won't save them. If they combine their somewhat moody and depressing thoughts some of them have though...

Summers stomps

@ruthlesskiller: Madara does have a godly chin....

They're not touching Nate, so I don't see why he doesn't solo.

How do they possibly prep for a phoenix they get stomped for sure rounds 2 and three and TP round 1 anyway

I think you are underselling Vulcan in terms of energy projection/manipulation here. That guy could create himself an energy suit to fight Black Bolt during War of the Kings and other things