@ShootingNova said:

@FMStyyx said:

(im not trolling) im seriously interested in what vader could do.

What were vaders powers that put him so far up there??

and wat did luke know that let him beat vader who (as anny had lots of adventures and experiences using his saber)

Didnt nihilus know more than force drain??

Like Force Scream, and lighting (vader vs lightening would trash him)

Wasnt Nihilus force grip more powerful than vaders??

What made vader so great? he was a living embodiment of the force with no real force powers??

Okay, I can tell you know little about Vader. He can Force Crush/Grip/Choke/Throw/Push/Wave/Repulse amongst other things and own people with it. He has been ambushed by Eight Jedi on Kessel and has killed 5 of them, he has defeated the An'ya Kuro, the Dark Woman (one of the most powerful Jedi Masters), Celeste Morne, Ferus Olin twice, and has moved so fast when he killed Roan Lands that Ferus didn't even manage to react, much less protect his best friend from being stabbed in the heart. He can be almost invincible with his rage alone (like Sion) and does not need the Orbalisk armor (like Bane does) and is the strongest Sith Lord physically.

Nihilus knows more than force drain, sure, but none of them hurt Vader. I can asure you, he had MANY real force powers, more than enough to kill Nihilus.

Also, Lightning doesn't own Vader, that was Sidious' lightning, or in other words, the most powerful Sith Lord's lightning, plus Vader was heavily injured then. Just to tell you, Vader has a massive (if not the greatest) resistance to Force Lightning.

And I never said you were trolling.

Yea thats y im asking :/

(i know but i know trolls press an press)

(vader can move quickly with robotick legs, i didnt know that)

Okay but arint those the most basic force powers?? and cant nihilus use them too?? Wasnt nihilus one of the greatest masters of the dark side??

wouldnt vaders robotic limbs be damaged if attacked with lightning??

Its just hard for me to see vader as being so great when theres others that seem like they are so much better.

vader has lots of feats, but answer one more question, nihilus can affect entire planets with his force so wouldnt he bable to counter basic force powers with the same force is that jst me wishful thinking?? again im serious was vader all that great??