Well?

@MasterJohn: MAGIC MAYBE???

@MasterJohn said:

Well?

@RoyHarperBLOW said:

@MasterJohn: MAGIC MAYBE???

i think he/she means that he/she want some scans to see what she is capable to do? :)

She can speak backwards, and whatever she says happens. So if she wanted you to disappear, she'd say:

NhojRetsaM raeppasid.

@JonSmith said:

She can speak backwards, and whatever she says happens. So if she wanted you to disappear, she'd say:

NhojRetsaM raeppasid.

Can she turn blood to fire?

@MasterJohn said:

Can she turn blood to fire?

Nrut sih doolb ot erif.

Her powers can do all kinds of random things. It is really interesting to see what she is capable of in terms of magical feats.

I like the character but I find her power just too...much. Is anything a contest for her?

I don't think she really has limits. If she can say it backwards, it'll happen.

Gnihtyna

I usually hate it when people say that Superman is too powerful and that Batman is way cooler than him because he does not have any powers (which is ridiculous because Batman is the very definition of overpowered).

However, when it comes to Zatanna, I do think that she is too powerful. Basically, she is omnipotent and everything she says just happens. "POTS!" is literally the solution to every fight. I really like the character but in my opinion, it has always been a huge problem.

she is a walking hail mary in dire situations, otherwise she gets her throat cut more than an inmate in guantanamo bay.

Im pretty sure she has a limit.

I mean think about it if she can say "enoyreve nrut ot enots" or "tcerusseR" she can rue the world and bring people back to life!

can you imagine her just speaking backwards doing anything...so yaa im not buying that she can just say anything backwards and it'll work. and i recall in a recent issue of JLD where she tried to say something backwards but she struggled and it didn't work. ill find a scan later but my point is i call BULL that she can just say a word backwards and its happening.

@zackattack529 said:

Im pretty sure she has a limit.

I mean think about it if she can say "enoyreve nrut ot enots" or "tcerusseR" she can rue the world and bring people back to life!

can you imagine her just speaking backwards doing anything...so yaa im not buying that she can just say anything backwards and it'll work. and i recall in a recent issue of JLD where she tried to say something backwards but she struggled and it didn't work. ill find a scan later but my point is i call BULL that she can just say a word backwards and its happening.

Actually that is part of the problem. Writers usually realise she needs limits so what they do instead of actually depowering her is they invent new limits while completely ignoring the previously established ones. For instance, at the beginning of her last series, for some reason, she no longer could affect the living directly but this came out of nowhere and it did not stick.

Instead of actually revamping her powers, writers just have her say "I cannot do that" when they need to, which is lame and does not make any sense when one year before, she could do it just fine and considering that she will be able to do it in a few issues.

It is kind of like Johns writing the Spectre in JSA, GL: Rebirth, Blackest Night, GL: Blackest Night and GL: The New Guardians (the story arc). Each time, he invents a new reason to explain why he cannot intervene in that specific situation.

I am glad Zatanna still has fans.

Over the years, Zatanna has stated a number of times that using her powers drains her more than people realize.

It's also easy to forget how much of a burden saying something backwards could be in genuine combat. In the time it takes her to say aloud "ezeerF!", The Batman or Black Canary or Lady Shiva could already have kicked her into unconsciousness before she had finished the one-syllable word. And her powers either malfunction or fail to work at all those rare times she has slurred, enunciated poorly, or been interrupted mid-sentence by a sneeze from sneezing powder, for example.

She has also admitted a number of times over the years that her backwards spells tend to occur literally, so if she miswords something, what she says will occur rather than what she had meant to say. This has been stated several times as her reason for avoiding any sorts of spells which deal with the human mind -- for example, if she told Superman "Llaf ni evol htiw rednoW namoW", she could not control whether he developed a fatherly adoration of Diana, a stalker's obsession with our favorite Amazon, or a healthy romantic desire for the Princess.

She has also admitted several times that the fact she can do almost anything often overwhelms her -- although intelligent and clever, she is not quick-witted, so although figuring out how to say something in reverse quickly is easy for her, deciding what to say is not. This is supported by her claim that she likes to follow the same routine every night in her nightclub magic act with little spontaneity. In at least one issue she has admitted that she often practices ahead of time what spells to use in combat to compensate for her difficulty with spontaneous planning.

In My Humble Opinion, her best appearances have dealt with her power level in the same way that Superman's power level is often dealt with -- as something she fights to remain humble about because she has seen how easily power can corrupt. Both Zatanna and Superman have to survive in a "world of cardboard" in which their great power could easily do damage they could not undo. In Zatanna's case, there is the added danger that, as one of the premier magic-wielding mortals, she is constantly looked in on by both the evil supernatural powers and the good supernatural powers of her reality. Unlike Superman, she is often visited by evil forces which would just love to see her corrupted by her power level, and unlike Superman, she can find herself chastised by an angel for misuse of her powers. It has been made quite clear that beings such as the Spectre or Dream can ignore her spells without effort.

It is unclear whether she avoids bringing back the dead because she is unable to do so or because she knows that the spiritual powers that be will make her quite sorry for reversing the life-death cycle if she does so.

In many ways, the best appearances of Zatanna have been reminiscent of the uses of magic in the lauded 1960s sitcom Bewitched. Samantha Stephens could have taken over the world, but she had no interest in such power and knew how worthless such power would be be for one such as she. Additionally, it was fairly clear that the time and effort it took to cast a spell made magic ineffective on a tactical level (strategically useful, and useful against non-combatants, but not tactically useful). Her species of magic-wielders also had to worry about the literalism of their spells on occasion (thus, Esmeralda once brought forth Julius Caesar while trying to conjure up a Caesar Salad.) Fortunately for Samantha, she had a number of spells she could cast with a quick nose twitch or snap of the fingers, which gave her the clear advantage over Zatanna were the two ever to fight.

On Zatanna's page it says that she knows martian kung fu. Does anybody know anything about this? Where did she learn it, is red belt the highest belt, who else knows it, what issue is this info from, etc?

be my fav DC girl.

Neato magic tricks and looks great in fishnets

she's too overpowered.

She can never have an adventurous story.

@thorson: why can't she?

i think in Young Justice she said she has to have enough energy to power the spell

Magic.

With her magic she can do practically anything and doesn't seem to have any problems against her unless... plot device.

But what are her limits? Do her powers have effect on Spectre or powerful magician? How can we know they doesn't work?

@jigen879: Her limit was clearly shown in her fight with lobo. She was able to stop him in place with a word and flay his skin with another.

But it only held him for around half an hour which is when her magic was too drained to keep containing Lobo.

She was also able to effortlessly freeze Despero.

@chimeroid: Wow please me bring me an image. Thanks

When was the last time Zatanna made an appearance anyway, did not see her since Justice League Dark

@jigen879:

VS Lobo

Gallery

And for Despero

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@chimeroid: But if she wanted to, she could say die backward to The Spectre or Shazam or Nabu and they will die? Is there an explanation? Can we know who her spells work and who does not?

@jigen879: Her magic can be shielded from if you have a magic source yourself. We have seen Alan Scott shielding Superman and Kara from one of her spells with his lantern.

And Ofc, Spectre is waaaaay too above her paygrade to kill.

As i have shown, her limit is about at Lobo level, as it drained her magic after half an hour to hold him in place. And then he came back and lolstomped her team.

If you want a detailed debate on it just visit one of my CaVs from earlier this year. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/pick-3-darkraiden-vs-chimeroid-voting-open-1781037/

@chimeroid: Pretty sure she is a bit above lobo level seeing as though she has had spells to affect much more powerful characters.

@storm-is-life: She manhandled Lobo indeed, but she only had enough juice to restrain him for a while. Keep in mind Lobo is as unkillable as Deadpool is.

It is a good measuring stick that shows Zatanna can freeze a Superman level character for half an hour. That is the limit of her powers.

@chimeroid: I see what you mean. Your talking about the duration she can retain a spell.

@storm-is-life: Well, i am talking about the amount of power she has. I will assume she could hold down someone 30X more powerful than Lobo for 1 minute.

That would be what i mean.

Also i don't think she ever used instakill magic as such, could be that she can't.

@chimeroid: Thank you for elaborating, also I'm pretty sure she just chooses not to instakill.

@chimeroid: Thanks so much. A friend of mine belivies she is omnipotent! Can you write me the comic where Zatanna fights Lobo? And where Lantern shields Superman? However what if Zatanna said ied, ie die, to Lobo? And an other thing Zatanna is more speed than Lobo in speaking? What?

@jigen879: magic of comic books. They all speak so fast that they hold friggin conversations in combat :)

She had never used ieD as a spell. But she has transmuted a person into a block of gold.

@chimeroid:@lord-parallax:

In this comic, Zatanna says that their power does not work on living organic matter. What does it mean? Indeed she deceives her and she asks her to kill her by tearing out his heart to her but this does not work magic and magic creates an explosion.

@jigen879: that is contradicted by feats.

@chimeroid: What do feat contradict this?

@jigen879:The scans you shared are from Zatanna's monthly series (2010 - 2011, canceled for the New 52 reboot), written by Paul Dini, who is one of the most knowledgeable writers in the business when it comes to her character.

However, the story in question was written by another writer due to Dini's unavailability. The author made a mistake, which is clear, given that Zee has affected living people directly in every one of her appearances, including in every issue of the same monthly series that statement appeared in. The reason for the error is that her own cousin, Zachary, cannot directly affect living beings. She does not share his weakness, though (as you can see below.)

As to Zee's power level, according to Paul Dini she could "shake down the gates of Heaven if she wanted to," and Dr. Fate has referred to her as the most powerful magical being in the world. I don't doubt that both statements are accurate, given the feats she's accomplished over the years.

She's effortlessly manipulated the time/space continuum...

...turned a man into a lump of gold, eradicating his soul...

...permanently cured an entire group of were-hyenas...

...forced the demonically empowered Brother Night to renounce his Faustian bargain, dooming himself to an eternity in Hell, and enslaved the nightmare demon Fuselli in her hat after almost destroying him...

...effortlessly engaged in dimensional teleportation...

...and even transformed multiple simultaneously fired bullets into paper airplanes after they were in flight, among other impressive accomplishments.

A common misconception is that she needs to speak to cast spells, but this isn't true. She learned magic from her father's journals, which used a speech based technique (specifically reciting spells in backwards speech), which was a limitation that she did have for a time. However, over time she has learned to perform magic in other ways.

She regularly uses non-verbal magic to perform feats such as telekinesis and conjuration...

...flight/levitation...

...and even astral projection and divination.

She also learned how to cast spells verbally, but speaking normally, in the "Come Together" mini-series, and has shown the ability to cast non-verbal spells with written magic or blood magic...

...or even via proxy...

or sign language.

I don't believe Zatanna has ever used a spell designed to instantly kill someone, however under the control of sorcerer Brother Night (Zatanna #03), her father's spirit has cast such a spell against her (which she successfully blocked with a counterspell.)

Since her father's magical abilities are identical to her own, this clearly indicates that she is capable of casting killing spells.

As to the notion that her spells do have to be specific in order to work, this is not true, but her intentions while casting do. Though she needs to focus her mind on what she specifically wants to happen in order to accomplish the desired results, her words can remain vague.

Her only real limitations are available magical energy, ability to concentrate, and imagination (though a more powerful magic caster does, of course, have the ability to potentially defend themself against her magics.) This does not add up to a serious weakness under most circumstances, however, given she can perform impressive tasks with little to no effort...

...and she can borrow magical energy from other sources, including other magic users.

Hopefully, all that helped you or anyone else who comes here in the future understand Zatanna a little bit better.

Everything you can imagine. It can range from throwing a human thief's weapon to rewriting a villain's personality, manipulating reality to resurrecting someone, it can freeze time to invoke his father's spirit, from stopping a bloodthirsty Lobo to taking control of a powerful demon from the justice league.

Well, she has only one limit so far: She can be disabled with a rope around her mouth or something. However, she can loosen up in less than 28 seconds of ropes and removing her mouth doesn’t stop her, in addition, she can cast “minor” spells without speaking, for example, explosions strong enough to injure John, teleport , use telekinesis and even create shields. She is also trained in combat, but obviously not at batman level.

RESPECT ZATANNA ZATARA (DC COMICS)

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/zatanna-respect-thread-new-52rebirth-2091280/

She is pretty good against speedster too

here one against Barry

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/naM1CB4wBudE7u8tN050gLCETFeshwSDeodDI9vC4j7kY-hzUNRNlStMXtVx0Uc2ZwPETvxapsykmQ=s1600

Against Superman in JLD Movie

https://youtu.be/4UlpX9e5AnY

Forcing charging Captain Marvel tu blurt out Shazam

https://youtu.be/42hm3gDnTFA

Also she defeating Pralaya, The God aspect that put everything in the multiverse to the sleep even the God. She also forcing Upside Down Man to pay for magic cost and crush it at recent JLD