The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.
Sorry. Maybe, ten years ago, I'd be down with the possibility. But after everything the writers have done to Logan since Schism and especially AvX, the thought of Jean ever being with him is just... blegh.
(Incidentally, I felt the same way during that creepy Beast/Jean period we had going. Even Wolverine would be preferable to him.)
@njchrispatrick: Logan hasn’t done anything wrong to warrant that Jean would feel any different towards him than she has in the past.
Well,logan was always a saint.Even when he tried to kill hope & later betrayed her trust.
It really depends on what agenda the writers go in wanting Jean to have. I mean, I would love, LOVE, for Jean to call out Logan, Hank, Storm, and the others on all the B.S. and hypocrisy they've been spouting since AvX, from their constant pinning all the blame on Scott, to the simply dumb decisions which resulted from the writers trying to stir up conflict. In the case of Logan, it is that he is so willing to blame Scott for absolutely everything wrong in the world, while simultaneously letting lots of others (like Bobby, who went full psycho ice-god) off the leash. I just think it would be nice for Jean to address the fact.
Of course, I doubt we'd ever get it. That would require the writers to be willing to address their own past screw-ups, and I don't really see that happening.
@njchrispatrick: Logan hasn’t done anything wrong to warrant that Jean would feel any different towards him than she has in the past.
Well,logan was always a saint.Even when he tried to kill hope & later betrayed her trust.
It really depends on what agenda the writers go in wanting Jean to have. I mean, I would love, LOVE, for Jean to call out Logan, Hank, Storm, and the others on all the B.S. and hypocrisy they've been spouting since AvX, from their constant pinning all the blame on Scott, to the simply dumb decisions which resulted from the writers trying to stir up conflict. In the case of Logan, it is that he is so willing to blame Scott for absolutely everything wrong in the world, while simultaneously letting lots of others (like Bobby, who went full psycho ice-god) off the leash. I just think it would be nice for Jean to address the fact.
Of course, I doubt we'd ever get it. That would require the writers to be willing to address their own past screw-ups, and I don't really see that happening.
I forgot logan also killed hank pym in the past in age of ultron story & also tried to kill kid apocalypse.But there's nothing wrong with that i guess.
@njchrispatrick: Logan hasn’t done anything wrong to warrant that Jean would feel any different towards him than she has in the past.
Well,logan was always a saint.Even when he tried to kill hope & later betrayed her trust.
It really depends on what agenda the writers go in wanting Jean to have. I mean, I would love, LOVE, for Jean to call out Logan, Hank, Storm, and the others on all the B.S. and hypocrisy they've been spouting since AvX, from their constant pinning all the blame on Scott, to the simply dumb decisions which resulted from the writers trying to stir up conflict. In the case of Logan, it is that he is so willing to blame Scott for absolutely everything wrong in the world, while simultaneously letting lots of others (like Bobby, who went full psycho ice-god) off the leash. I just think it would be nice for Jean to address the fact.
Of course, I doubt we'd ever get it. That would require the writers to be willing to address their own past screw-ups, and I don't really see that happening.
I forgot logan also killed hank pym in the past in age of ultron story & also tried to kill kid apocalypse.But there's nothing wrong with that i guess.
In the past I always liked Wolverine's character, but I liked it more because he was so unashamed of what he was. But then he almost turned into a self-hating mutant, and he kind of fell apart as a character. Dying did him well.
@njchrispatrick: What hypocrisy are you talking about storm did logan yay did alot but don't act like Scott was innocent of anything and he certainly not was not right about alot.
So if we are looking to find a love interest for Bishop then I would say put him with Sage or even Monet. In fact I have a story involving Monet and Bishop and Emplate could be pretty interesting
@weatherwitch21: Storm was part of the whole "Scott is the evil Magneto Xavier-killer" craze, irregardless of several other events of equal or worse scale. She was the best of the bunch, but still suffered from the writers wanting to make everyone believe Scott was a villain. Of all the Jean Grey School characters she fared the best but I still struggled through stuff with her sometimes--not because she herself was explicitly ignorant, but because she was always surrounded by Iceman and Beast who were. It always sucks when the goal of the writers overwhelms the character themselves.
@njchrispatrick: I mean some of icemans anger was understandable he saw scott kill the professor whether it was intentional or not. Mind you I still whole heartly believe most of the bad in that story was the avengers fault and have never really looked at them the same again. Storms position made the most sense because she had been the most vocal about her feelings towards what scott was doing to the xmen and the total disregard for what she had to say.
@weatherwitch21: True, but it coming from Iceman especially was obnoxious given that he himself caused a global ice age and undoubtedly killed thousands of people. But you're not wrong about the Avengers part. Storm did make some previous references to Scott's path, it just annoyed me when they were having her go all-out "Scott you're going crazy" when she always struck me as someone who, if not totally agreeing with him, would be able to really sit down and discuss it. She got better, but for a while it was really hard. I still can't read Extraordinary X-Men because of that whole group.
@weatherwitch21: True, but it coming from Iceman especially was obnoxious given that he himself caused a global ice age and undoubtedly killed thousands of people. But you're not wrong about the Avengers part. Storm did make some previous references to Scott's path, it just annoyed me when they were having her go all-out "Scott you're going crazy" when she always struck me as someone who, if not totally agreeing with him, would be able to really sit down and discuss it. She got better, but for a while it was really hard. I still can't read Extraordinary X-Men because of that whole group.
@njchrispatrick: I mean some of icemans anger was understandable he saw scott kill the professor whether it was intentional or not. Mind you I still whole heartly believe most of the bad in that story was the avengers fault and have never really looked at them the same again. Storms position made the most sense because she had been the most vocal about her feelings towards what scott was doing to the xmen and the total disregard for what she had to say.
Intentional???Really?
If it was intentional Scott would've burned down whole avengers squad.
So if we are looking to find a love interest for Bishop then I would say put him with Sage or even Monet. In fact I have a story involving Monet and Bishop and Emplate could be pretty interesting
The goal was to look for a love interest for jean.
@njchrispatrick: I mean in exm it was going a little overboard with the scott thing but storm tried on many occasions to talk to scott and he was either dismissive or rude so her reaction is definitely justified especially since she tried he didn't except when he was begging her not to leave during schism which i thought was a spit in her face and she should have told him to eat dick.
@njchrispatrick: I mean in exm it was going a little overboard with the scott thing but storm tried on many occasions to talk to scott and he was either dismissive or rude so her reaction is definitely justified especially since she tried he didn't except when he was begging her not to leave during schism which i thought was a spit in her face and she should have told him to eat dick.
@mrnihal: I'm guessing you're a big cyclops fan. So is he innocent of prof x murder? If so then what happened then its just the phoenix force fault? Also it wasn't one page and the fact he didn't regret it later but lets just ignore all that huh
@mrnihal: I'm guessing you're a big cyclops fan. So is he innocent of prof x murder? If so then what happened then its just the phoenix force fault? Also it wasn't one page and the fact he didn't regret it later but lets just ignore all that huh
@mrnihal: I must have read avx consequences wrong cause I could have sworn he said to wolverine he would have done it all again because of mutants reappearing
@mrnihal: I must have read avx consequences wrong cause I could have sworn he said to wolverine he would have done it all again because of mutants reappearing
If you think the "it" is referring to killing xavier.SALUTE!
@mrnihal: i mean he didn't exclude it so that would be something he didn't regret in that statement I mean I guess he could have not been meaning that but wouldn't you have more remorse then that I mean but whatever floats your boat. I swear cyclops gets a pass for everything with yall.
@mrnihal: i mean he didn't exclude it so that would be something he didn't regret in that statement I mean I guess he could have not been meaning that but wouldn't you have more remorse then that I mean but whatever floats your boat. I swear cyclops gets a pass for everything with yall.
That's lots of "mean" for me to get a clear idea.Whatever he did show remorse.
And gets a pass?After AvX he was literally in jail without proper conviction.Then written as a "pariah" in the eyes of X-men,hunted down like a dog by shield & avengers,after secret wars labeled as a hitler & then we found out he actually didn't do anything.He was the one who was gassed to death.So,really sorry as we feel bad for the guy & try to defend his actions realistically.
@mrnihal: Yes he was jailed without a trial as was emma. He also wasn't the only one to die from the gas jamie was dying when they go there. I also never said the avengers were correct in the scenario. After avx I was like fuck the avengers and everything they stood for. The reason he was a pariah was because he killed xavier I mean there was no way for him not to be. Scotts actions routinely get defended no matter what they are, whether its forming xforce and involving x23 when that was the 1 thing wolverine asked not to happen, sending a kill squad after his son, constantly disrespecting teammates and treating them like weapons, all I ever hear is how he was justified in all those actions thats why I said get a pass because he can apparently do no wrong.
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