Original Member of the X-Men Revealed to be Gay

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Have you been reading ALL-NEW X-MEN? The series started with Beast pulling the original X-Men out of the past and into the present to deal with Cyclops' ideas of a mutant revolution after he accidentally killed Professor X while under the influence of the Phoenix Force.

With the original/young X-Men stuck in the present, there's been some changes for them. They've slowly discovered different events that are supposed to take place in their future. Jean Grey, who is getting used to the full extent of her telepathic and telekinetic powers, has been finding out more and more about everything, not just about her own future. While trying to get a grasp on her powerful telepathic abilities, she's accidentally pried into the minds of others more than once. This leads to the revelation in ALL-NEW X-MEN #40.

Some pages for this week's issue managed to get leaked. Sites such as the ADVOCATE have run the pages in question that fully show the scene as it plays out. We're not big on spoilers around here but this is something everyone is talking about. Obviously, there will be SPOILERS below.

The scene in question has the young X-Men and X-23 sitting around. After Magik teleports away, Iceman makes a comment on her "unbelievably hotness." This is when Jean privately calls him out on it.

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There is much more to the scene than just these few panels. It is brought up that the present day Iceman isn't gay. Obviously that could be denial. ALL-NEW X-MEN #40 is on sale this week. Chances are people will be talking about this for some time so you might want to pick up a copy at your local comic shop.

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they need to create new characters and stop recycling smh

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#2 the_stegman  Moderator

Oh boy.....

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#3  Edited By Sammo21

Retconned** not reavealed, lol

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BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!

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Oh man, this is sure to rustle some jimmies.

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I mean they messed with the timeline, things happen, ya know?

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I really hate that this got spoiled before the comic was released.

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I knew it would be Iceman.

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Lol what

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#11  Edited By Saren

What I find really offensive is that the page in question has eight panels and four images.

Yeah, also Bendis's whole thing about how homosexuality is apparently something you can switch on and off as and when required raises the eyebrows, but really........eight panels and four images.

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Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

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*Eye Roll* .

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#14  Edited By Psycho_Soldier

couldn't care less,... oh wait Northstar marriage, I can care less,...

and I'm gay

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Even tough I found this to be a as reasonable change, I'm gonna go ahead and say it F#UCK YOU Bendis!

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What a way to come out of the closet, for somebody else to tell you. I'm still waiting on some freak accident that turns Kitty Pryde into a hermaphrodite. We need that diversity, and I can't think of a better candidate. Sorry I didn't tell you before Star-Lord, but...

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@tattacus said:

Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

Dear Diary.

It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

that nosy b...

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so the older iceman is straight and the young is gay

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Worth it for Jean's facial expressions.

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#20  Edited By HumanRocket

I never really cared about Iceman, so I'm not going to pretend to be upset about this.

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Now I'm believing of this alternate past thing, this O5 is not the Earth-616 O5.

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#22  Edited By MarcosVergara14

@tattacus said:

Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

Dear Diary.

It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

that nosy b...

It was cringeworthy

"Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

"I could be Bi"

"Nope you're gay"

Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

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BENDIS!!!!!!!!

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The only thing about this that bothers me is that present day Bobby is not gay. And if what they are saying is present day Bobby is gay then it does not fit with any of his history to date.

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I don't believe he's really gay. Create a new gay character. Don't use ones that clearly aren't gay.

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"Ok marvel employees, we have to throw diversity in the publics face, we already have a Muslim ms marvel, a black spiderman, a Hispanic ghost rider, what else could we do to another existing character........Oooooh make them gay! Ok bring out the spinning well of popular characters"

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#28  Edited By Maddpanda531

@the_stegman said:

@tattacus said:

Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

Dear Diary.

It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

that nosy b...

It was cringeworthy

"Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

"I could be Bi"

"Nope you're gay"

Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her as a character after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean. Not cool.

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Marvel trying to hard...again

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Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her him as a character writer after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean Bendis. Not cool.

Fixed. :-)

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#32  Edited By Zelos797

well that was completely unneccery...

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I have no issue with this, mainly because I have not accepted them to be the same characters as the present day counterparts. Ever since they were pulled from the timeline they were not the same - of course this raises some continuity issues - it could mean that either present day Bobby was just curious at one point, maybe he is secretly (it happens) or maybe he just doesn't know yet, or maybe present day Bobby is still straight and his younger counterpart is not, but we still do not know the entire story. There are so many possibilities and until we know more I don't think we can just hate Bendis for this.

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@marcosvergara14 said:

@the_stegman said:

@tattacus said:

Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

Dear Diary.

It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

that nosy b...

It was cringeworthy

"Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

"I could be Bi"

"Nope you're gay"

Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her as a character after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean. Not cool.

Exactly. I never really cared for Jean. But after learning this, I care less for her.

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#36  Edited By HexThis

All subtext aside, there are so many gay characters already who never get featured or get to be prominent. It's like how DC basically nixed every lesbian they could in the new 52, made Harley & Ivy STRAIGHT (as soon as Harley reached a broad audience & was cast in a movie), but then un-daringly made Catwoman bi as if that's progressive. Marvel has so many X-men compatible characters who are queer that never get any play or are in limbo like...

-Wiccan

-Northstar

-Prodigy

-Anole

-Greymalkin

-America Chavez

-Striker

-Bling!

-Teen Loki (creators said he'd be bi)

So it's not that amazing when these creators arbitrarily turn established characters queer while simultaneously brushing so many aside.

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jean needs to learn to stay out of peoples private thoughts what a bad friend

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#38  Edited By AndyPhifer

This isn't a retcon. It is incredibly common for a person in his 30s to be gay and living a heterosexual lifestyle, dating women and denying their actual wants. I have known people like this in my life. It isn't a crazy thought for Bobby to be a gay man who just isn't admitting it to himself, nor is it crazy for him to have been with women in the past. Perhaps Young Bobby's experience living in 2015 America has made it easier for him to accept this about himself at this young age. It isn't erasing any of Old Bobby's past or Young Bobby's future to make it known that he was/is living as a closeted gay man.

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It's Bendis, what did you expect. But I dont care if anyone is gay, I just dont read anything by Bendis.

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@darkrider: that confuses me in itself...then again alot of All New Xmen confused me.I don't have a problem with him being gay,don't really care really.I just think it's weird that Jean just basically reads his mind without his consent it seems.So to me that right there makes Jean ,not Jean to me if that makes sense.

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If anything he should have been bi. Purely gay doesn't really make sense for the character, unless somehow they're gonna try and make young Bobby a different Bobby and not actually the young Bobby of 616.

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It's not the present Bobby so I could careless about him or the young Jean Grey.

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@psycho_soldier: This panel it's from Batgril not Batwoman that was a character specially crated fot that book the reason why people don't like this it's beacuse it's Bobby Drake one of the X-Men founding members, whom Bendis just "changed" his secuality for the sake of change (AKA Retcon) .

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Gay works differently in the Marvel 616.........

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#45  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

Cool. Young bobby is always funny.

From all the comments I'm reading, no wonders comic book nerds get a bad rep sometimes.

~MiB

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Quick, someone ring the political correctness alarm!!!

Ok, on a more serious note, I think a lot of people aren't surprised by this reveal. Marvel have played with it in stories involving adult Bobby several times now. What would be a particularly interesting move is if they don't dwell on it, but instead it rebounds back on Jean (seriously... dick move there Ms Grey).

And, ignoring the inevitable cries that Social Justice Warriors are ruining our comics... I think a lot of the problems and issues people have with this are due to it being Bendis, not due to them changing a character.

It's similar to his recent heavy-handed tactics with Rich Rider... he's a bit like that kid who, when told to put his toys back in the box, breaks a few so no-one else can play with them. That's how it feels with Rich and, to a lesser extent, with Bobby. Not that being gay is "broken" (before anyone jumps to THAT conclusion) but because it's Bendis it feels like he's making changes JUST to leave his mark and mess with other readers/writers. It feels self-serving and I'm not surprised there are multiple threads about Bendis and his writing more as a form of "trolling" than actually serving the characters/stories.

Whereas a really good writer tends to leave doors open and tease potential plot-threads that subsequent writers can pick up, or not, and do with what they will... Bendis frequently seems unable to leave a character or book behind without trying to FORCE subsequent writers to carry on his plot threads. It's a subtle, but in my mind very noticeable, difference in approaches.

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Good for him.

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This isn't a retcon. It is incredibly common for a person in his 30s to be gay and living a heterosexual lifestyle, dating women and denying their actual wants. I have known people like this in my life. It isn't a crazy thought for Bobby to be a gay man who just isn't admitting it to himself, nor is it crazy for him to have been with women in the past. Perhaps Young Bobby's experience living in 2015 America has made it easier for him to accept this about himself at this young age. It isn't erasing any of Old Bobby's past or Young Bobby's future to make it known that he was/is living as a closeted gay man.

Bobby had a story just two or three years ago where his subconscious created duplicate Icemen to protect everyone he had ever loved, and all of them were women. That was his subconscious at work, and you cannot just magically turn your subconscious straight no matter how deep in denial you are. He also had an arc when he was involved with Polaris about feeling inadequate as a result of competing for her affections with Havok. It is a retcon, and the bit about him being in perpetual denial is completely unnecessary, especially when Bobby has known Northstar, Anole, Rictor and Shatterstar for years. It might be incredibly common in certain places, but think of what place Iceman comes from. Is he afraid the X-Men of all people are going to have a problem with him being gay?

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Maybe Jean should mind her own business,like the rest of world. just because she is a comic book character doesnt mean she has to be rude. you don't just go up to somebody and say you are gay. if i did that i would get punched in the face. the fact that she isn't real doesn't mean she has to act like a jerk. God,teach super-heroe some frakking social ettiquete.

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