Follow

    X-Men

    Team » X-Men appears in 12857 issues.

    The X-Men are a superhero team of mutants founded by Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.

    Original Member of the X-Men Revealed to be Gay

    Avatar image for gmanfromheck
    gmanfromheck

    42524

    Forum Posts

    259238

    Wiki Points

    192723

    Followers

    Reviews: 472

    User Lists: 2

    Edited By gmanfromheck
    No Caption Provided

    Have you been reading ALL-NEW X-MEN? The series started with Beast pulling the original X-Men out of the past and into the present to deal with Cyclops' ideas of a mutant revolution after he accidentally killed Professor X while under the influence of the Phoenix Force.

    With the original/young X-Men stuck in the present, there's been some changes for them. They've slowly discovered different events that are supposed to take place in their future. Jean Grey, who is getting used to the full extent of her telepathic and telekinetic powers, has been finding out more and more about everything, not just about her own future. While trying to get a grasp on her powerful telepathic abilities, she's accidentally pried into the minds of others more than once. This leads to the revelation in ALL-NEW X-MEN #40.

    Some pages for this week's issue managed to get leaked. Sites such as the ADVOCATE have run the pages in question that fully show the scene as it plays out. We're not big on spoilers around here but this is something everyone is talking about. Obviously, there will be SPOILERS below.

    The scene in question has the young X-Men and X-23 sitting around. After Magik teleports away, Iceman makes a comment on her "unbelievably hotness." This is when Jean privately calls him out on it.

    No Caption Provided

    There is much more to the scene than just these few panels. It is brought up that the present day Iceman isn't gay. Obviously that could be denial. ALL-NEW X-MEN #40 is on sale this week. Chances are people will be talking about this for some time so you might want to pick up a copy at your local comic shop.

    Avatar image for laabitres
    laabitres

    801

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    they need to create new characters and stop recycling smh

    Avatar image for the_stegman
    the_stegman

    41627

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    #2 the_stegman  Moderator

    Oh boy.....

    Avatar image for sammo21
    Sammo21

    733

    Forum Posts

    119

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #3  Edited By Sammo21

    Retconned** not reavealed, lol

    Avatar image for life_without_progress
    Life_Without_Progress

    31794

    Forum Posts

    5563

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 8

    BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!

    Avatar image for drellassassin
    DrellAssassin

    1028

    Forum Posts

    81

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 4

    User Lists: 0

    Oh man, this is sure to rustle some jimmies.

    Avatar image for ec2277
    EC2277

    741

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Avatar image for mr__kamikaze
    Mr. Kamikaze

    834

    Forum Posts

    623

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    I mean they messed with the timeline, things happen, ya know?

    Avatar image for maddpanda531
    Maddpanda531

    1635

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    I really hate that this got spoiled before the comic was released.

    Avatar image for black_arrow
    Black_Arrow

    10321

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    I knew it would be Iceman.

    Avatar image for darknightspideyfanboy
    darknightspideyfanboy

    2623

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Lol what

    Avatar image for saren
    Saren

    27947

    Forum Posts

    213824

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 14

    User Lists: 12

    #11  Edited By Saren

    What I find really offensive is that the page in question has eight panels and four images.

    Yeah, also Bendis's whole thing about how homosexuality is apparently something you can switch on and off as and when required raises the eyebrows, but really........eight panels and four images.

    Avatar image for tattacus
    Tattacus

    2520

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

    Avatar image for Shadowstare
    Shadowstare

    44

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    *Eye Roll* .

    Avatar image for psycho_soldier
    Psycho_Soldier

    137

    Forum Posts

    1201

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #14  Edited By Psycho_Soldier

    couldn't care less,... oh wait Northstar marriage, I can care less,...

    and I'm gay

    Avatar image for marcosvergara14
    MarcosVergara14

    543

    Forum Posts

    85

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Even tough I found this to be a as reasonable change, I'm gonna go ahead and say it F#UCK YOU Bendis!

    Avatar image for captainhoopla
    CaptainHoopla

    1974

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    What a way to come out of the closet, for somebody else to tell you. I'm still waiting on some freak accident that turns Kitty Pryde into a hermaphrodite. We need that diversity, and I can't think of a better candidate. Sorry I didn't tell you before Star-Lord, but...

    Avatar image for the_stegman
    the_stegman

    41627

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    #17 the_stegman  Moderator

    @tattacus said:

    Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

    That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

    Dear Diary.

    It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

    Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

    that nosy b...

    Avatar image for redmanta
    redmanta

    606

    Forum Posts

    73760

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    so the older iceman is straight and the young is gay

    Avatar image for andyphifer
    AndyPhifer

    131

    Forum Posts

    14

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Worth it for Jean's facial expressions.

    Avatar image for human_rocket
    HumanRocket

    11233

    Forum Posts

    3996

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 2

    User Lists: 1

    #20  Edited By HumanRocket

    I never really cared about Iceman, so I'm not going to pretend to be upset about this.

    Avatar image for mutant_god
    Mutant God

    3957

    Forum Posts

    2496

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Now I'm believing of this alternate past thing, this O5 is not the Earth-616 O5.

    Avatar image for marcosvergara14
    MarcosVergara14

    543

    Forum Posts

    85

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #22  Edited By MarcosVergara14

    @tattacus said:

    Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

    That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

    Dear Diary.

    It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

    Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

    that nosy b...

    It was cringeworthy

    "Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

    "I could be Bi"

    "Nope you're gay"

    Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

    Avatar image for judasnixon
    judasnixon

    12663

    Forum Posts

    699

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 4

    BENDIS!!!!!!!!

    Avatar image for illmatic4177
    illmatic4177

    429

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    The only thing about this that bothers me is that present day Bobby is not gay. And if what they are saying is present day Bobby is gay then it does not fit with any of his history to date.

    Avatar image for derf_jenkins
    derf_jenkins

    757

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    I don't believe he's really gay. Create a new gay character. Don't use ones that clearly aren't gay.

    Avatar image for zackattack93
    zackattack93

    112

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    "Ok marvel employees, we have to throw diversity in the publics face, we already have a Muslim ms marvel, a black spiderman, a Hispanic ghost rider, what else could we do to another existing character........Oooooh make them gay! Ok bring out the spinning well of popular characters"

    Avatar image for maddpanda531
    Maddpanda531

    1635

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #28  Edited By Maddpanda531

    @the_stegman said:

    @tattacus said:

    Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

    That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

    Dear Diary.

    It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

    Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

    that nosy b...

    It was cringeworthy

    "Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

    "I could be Bi"

    "Nope you're gay"

    Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

    Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her as a character after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean. Not cool.

    Avatar image for hiddenlight
    Hiddenlight

    3749

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Avatar image for sinestro_gl
    sinestro_GL

    3651

    Forum Posts

    6530

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 14

    User Lists: 8

    Marvel trying to hard...again

    Avatar image for ec2277
    EC2277

    741

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her him as a character writer after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean Bendis. Not cool.

    Fixed. :-)

    Avatar image for zelos797
    Zelos797

    1721

    Forum Posts

    252

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 2

    User Lists: 2

    #32  Edited By Zelos797

    well that was completely unneccery...

    Avatar image for psycho_soldier
    Psycho_Soldier

    137

    Forum Posts

    1201

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Avatar image for tattacus
    Tattacus

    2520

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    @marcosvergara14 said:

    @the_stegman said:

    @tattacus said:

    Was she reading his mind without his consent? Because if so that's a naughty naughty Jean!

    That's more upsetting to me than Bobby being gay. Total violation of privacy. It's like Jean reading his diary.

    Dear Diary.

    It's me, Bobby, I was about to take a shower and walked in on Scott changing..I liked what I saw.

    Jean: OHMAHGAWD, BOBBY, YOU'RE GAY!!!

    that nosy b...

    It was cringeworthy

    "Bobby I've read your mind you're gay"

    "I could be Bi"

    "Nope you're gay"

    Jesus Jean respect his privacy.

    Yeah, seriously. I kinda lost a lot of respect for her as a character after seeing this. Not only was it a total invasion of privacy, but she also called him out on it and then forced him to come out. Not cool, Jean. Not cool.

    Exactly. I never really cared for Jean. But after learning this, I care less for her.

    Avatar image for hexthis
    HexThis

    1136

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 3

    User Lists: 1

    #36  Edited By HexThis

    All subtext aside, there are so many gay characters already who never get featured or get to be prominent. It's like how DC basically nixed every lesbian they could in the new 52, made Harley & Ivy STRAIGHT (as soon as Harley reached a broad audience & was cast in a movie), but then un-daringly made Catwoman bi as if that's progressive. Marvel has so many X-men compatible characters who are queer that never get any play or are in limbo like...

    -Wiccan

    -Northstar

    -Prodigy

    -Anole

    -Greymalkin

    -America Chavez

    -Striker

    -Bling!

    -Teen Loki (creators said he'd be bi)

    So it's not that amazing when these creators arbitrarily turn established characters queer while simultaneously brushing so many aside.

    Avatar image for 98115
    98115

    1748

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    jean needs to learn to stay out of peoples private thoughts what a bad friend

    Avatar image for andyphifer
    AndyPhifer

    131

    Forum Posts

    14

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #38  Edited By AndyPhifer

    This isn't a retcon. It is incredibly common for a person in his 30s to be gay and living a heterosexual lifestyle, dating women and denying their actual wants. I have known people like this in my life. It isn't a crazy thought for Bobby to be a gay man who just isn't admitting it to himself, nor is it crazy for him to have been with women in the past. Perhaps Young Bobby's experience living in 2015 America has made it easier for him to accept this about himself at this young age. It isn't erasing any of Old Bobby's past or Young Bobby's future to make it known that he was/is living as a closeted gay man.

    Avatar image for currentthor2015
    CurrentThor2015

    687

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    It's Bendis, what did you expect. But I dont care if anyone is gay, I just dont read anything by Bendis.

    Avatar image for DCcomicfreak7
    Surza7

    353

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @darkrider: that confuses me in itself...then again alot of All New Xmen confused me.I don't have a problem with him being gay,don't really care really.I just think it's weird that Jean just basically reads his mind without his consent it seems.So to me that right there makes Jean ,not Jean to me if that makes sense.

    Avatar image for Feartheliving
    FearTheLiving

    8837

    Forum Posts

    125466

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    If anything he should have been bi. Purely gay doesn't really make sense for the character, unless somehow they're gonna try and make young Bobby a different Bobby and not actually the young Bobby of 616.

    Avatar image for daredevil21134
    daredevil21134

    15942

    Forum Posts

    22

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 15

    It's not the present Bobby so I could careless about him or the young Jean Grey.

    Avatar image for marcosvergara14
    MarcosVergara14

    543

    Forum Posts

    85

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @psycho_soldier: This panel it's from Batgril not Batwoman that was a character specially crated fot that book the reason why people don't like this it's beacuse it's Bobby Drake one of the X-Men founding members, whom Bendis just "changed" his secuality for the sake of change (AKA Retcon) .

    Avatar image for judasnixon
    judasnixon

    12663

    Forum Posts

    699

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 4

    Gay works differently in the Marvel 616.........

    Avatar image for madeinbangladesh
    MadeinBangladesh

    12494

    Forum Posts

    53

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 59

    User Lists: 172

    #45  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

    Cool. Young bobby is always funny.

    From all the comments I'm reading, no wonders comic book nerds get a bad rep sometimes.

    ~MiB

    Avatar image for andysynn
    AndySynn

    89

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Quick, someone ring the political correctness alarm!!!

    Ok, on a more serious note, I think a lot of people aren't surprised by this reveal. Marvel have played with it in stories involving adult Bobby several times now. What would be a particularly interesting move is if they don't dwell on it, but instead it rebounds back on Jean (seriously... dick move there Ms Grey).

    And, ignoring the inevitable cries that Social Justice Warriors are ruining our comics... I think a lot of the problems and issues people have with this are due to it being Bendis, not due to them changing a character.

    It's similar to his recent heavy-handed tactics with Rich Rider... he's a bit like that kid who, when told to put his toys back in the box, breaks a few so no-one else can play with them. That's how it feels with Rich and, to a lesser extent, with Bobby. Not that being gay is "broken" (before anyone jumps to THAT conclusion) but because it's Bendis it feels like he's making changes JUST to leave his mark and mess with other readers/writers. It feels self-serving and I'm not surprised there are multiple threads about Bendis and his writing more as a form of "trolling" than actually serving the characters/stories.

    Whereas a really good writer tends to leave doors open and tease potential plot-threads that subsequent writers can pick up, or not, and do with what they will... Bendis frequently seems unable to leave a character or book behind without trying to FORCE subsequent writers to carry on his plot threads. It's a subtle, but in my mind very noticeable, difference in approaches.

    Avatar image for captainmarvel4ever
    CaptainMarvel4Ever

    9920

    Forum Posts

    1337

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 2

    User Lists: 0

    No Caption Provided

    (I don't even care about this at all, I just wanted an excuse to use this)

    Avatar image for tommythehitman
    TommytheHitman

    7183

    Forum Posts

    104

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 5

    Good for him.

    Avatar image for saren
    Saren

    27947

    Forum Posts

    213824

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 14

    User Lists: 12

    This isn't a retcon. It is incredibly common for a person in his 30s to be gay and living a heterosexual lifestyle, dating women and denying their actual wants. I have known people like this in my life. It isn't a crazy thought for Bobby to be a gay man who just isn't admitting it to himself, nor is it crazy for him to have been with women in the past. Perhaps Young Bobby's experience living in 2015 America has made it easier for him to accept this about himself at this young age. It isn't erasing any of Old Bobby's past or Young Bobby's future to make it known that he was/is living as a closeted gay man.

    Bobby had a story just two or three years ago where his subconscious created duplicate Icemen to protect everyone he had ever loved, and all of them were women. That was his subconscious at work, and you cannot just magically turn your subconscious straight no matter how deep in denial you are. He also had an arc when he was involved with Polaris about feeling inadequate as a result of competing for her affections with Havok. It is a retcon, and the bit about him being in perpetual denial is completely unnecessary, especially when Bobby has known Northstar, Anole, Rictor and Shatterstar for years. It might be incredibly common in certain places, but think of what place Iceman comes from. Is he afraid the X-Men of all people are going to have a problem with him being gay?

    Avatar image for gothicshieldagent
    gothicshieldagent

    133

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Maybe Jean should mind her own business,like the rest of world. just because she is a comic book character doesnt mean she has to be rude. you don't just go up to somebody and say you are gay. if i did that i would get punched in the face. the fact that she isn't real doesn't mean she has to act like a jerk. God,teach super-heroe some frakking social ettiquete.

    This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for:

    Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

    Comment and Save

    Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Comic Vine users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.