The latest batch of spy photos from the X-MEN: FIRST CLASS set seem to reveal that… *GASP* …the X-Men might be flying the Blackbird in the movie! Which I suppose is a spoiler on level with revealing that they’ll be hanging around in a mansion, too. In other words, it was pretty much a given, wasn't it? I’ve never quite understood the mystique the jet has had, but some curiosities have nevertheless been aroused over whether such a high tech jet would be anachronistic in the 60s. Considering that the ship debuted in the 70s (in X-MEN #104 natch!) I don’t think its inclusion should spur any time-keepers to blow their whistles. Still, the discussion does bring up the subject that this reboot's plot might actually concern time-travel...

I keep thinking about the statements Matthew Vaughn made early in the year wherein he said this flick would be a lot like the latest STAR TREK movie. The comparison easily could’ve been drawn on the basis of both being reboots but, if that were the case, it’d seem more appropriate to use BATMAN BEGINS as an example, wouldn't it? But time-travel? It's obviously a huge part of the former. It let the new Spock to meet the old Spock! And it let both continuities kept existing simultaneously. My mind was already on this track when I was reading this further statement Vaughn had about the script… == TEASER ==

"The story that Bryan Singer came up with is very, very smart… It's very clever when you see how he has integrated the characters into the time period where the film is set. I'll put it that way. I just don't want to give it away. ... It's a very clever way of getting these characters involved in recent history, in recent world events."

So we’re definitely talking about the past meeting the present. Whether it's metaphorically or literally remains to be seen. If it's the latter,then it might actually might long due because, if you think about it, time-travel’s a significant part of the X-Mythos (maybe even as integral as it is to Inferiorego’s beloved DR. WHO.) Bishop, Cable and Rachel & Hope Summers are all major mutants and they’re all time-travelers. Recent storylines (SECOND COMING, MESSIAH WAR) and classic ones (DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, AGE OF APOCALYPSE, LEGION QUEST) all revolve around time-travel. The fan who’s in too deep probably won’t notice - - he'll probably chalk all of that up as breaks from the norm - - but the outside observer would look at these comics and notice that many of them have to do with somebody going from the future to the past, or vice versa.

The mutant movies so far have addressed most of the major pillars of the X-Mythos. You got evil mutants and racial allegories inX-MEN, human anti-mutant efforts and sub-culture allegories in X2, negated mutations and the Phoenix force in THE LAST STAND and then mutant history and Weapon X in WOLVERINE. The only major parts left to address are the Sentinels, the Shi’Ar… and time travel. 

I always figured that the X-Men hauling it to farthest-flung principalities of Majestrix Lillandra would be way, way, way too outlandish to jibe with the kind of grounded verisimilitude Singer insisted on for the series. However, remember that other comment Vaughn had about about superhero movies probably being on the way out? The attitude might be that if millions of mainstream viewers have been steadily acclimated to believing in mutants over the past decade, then maybe they’re ready for the really crazy stuff in this last hurrah. You’ve already got a sign of that in the movie’s setting.  A period piece superhero movie? That definitely wouldn’t have flown in 2000.

If my borderline-conspiracy theory were true, it would explain a lot of things you maniacs have been confused about it with the casting. Latter-day mutants like AngeI Il, Havok, Banshee, Darwin and Azazel being around for the first iteration of the X-Men isn’t as perplexing if the rivers of time are flowing together. Oliver Platt’s mysterious, non-mutant “Man in Black” character could very well be one of the many time-traveling nemeses in the rogue’s gallery like Nimrod, Bastion, Fitzroy, Stryfe or even a heavily-reworked version of Apocalypse.

Do any of any you maniacs see what I'm seeing here? Or am I way off the mark? Have I been starring into the abyss for too long (not the Horseman of Apocalypse one) that the abyss is finally starring back at me? Even if I'm wrong about this, I've still got a strong hunch that these guys have more up their sleeves for this movie than just a brawl with the Hellfire Club.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of  HYBRID BASTARDS!  &  UNIMAGINABLE . Order them on Amazon   here  &   here .  Follow him on Twitter:  @tompinchuk

I can't wait to see the new X-Men Movie. I think there will be no time travelling. Instead of that the movie will be intelligient patched to the other X-Men Movies.

I always loved the Blackbird.

With this spin on it, Tom, you have actually got me intrigued about this movie. We have been fearing that this film we be yet another retooled/revamped origin with little to do with the source material or the previous films. But if this film is trying to tie in a modern team of X-Men with their origins in the 60's through time travel, I could enjoy this. 

I can't believed I missed this article over the weekend.  Still, I would like to see a Sentinal/Nimrod based story.  They're a classic X-Men foe, and even the original animated series managed to throw Nimrod into the mix (with Bishop tossed in there for good measure too!).

Is this definitely set in the 60's and not the 70's??
   

"Is this definitely set in the 60's and not the 70's??"

Time traveling. Seriously? I'll let them get away with it if the movie is as kick-ass as the last Star Trek was. With every leaked image and news my faith in this project fades a little bit. I'm usually (unreasonably) optimistic about any comic-to-silver-screen-project but I have a bad feeling about this one.

I have no idea what is going on with this movie at all. Cast looks good but it is so confusing on what exactly they are doing and Bryan Singer ain't exactly bulletproof and neither is Matthew Vaughn. Either it is going to be awesome or a complete mess, which most of the X-Men movies have been recently (X3 & Wolverine). Even the next Wolverine movie, "The Wolverine" won't really acknowledge the first movie. This franchise begs for a reboot under Marvel Studios :/

" However if the Hellfire club is involved then what appears to be time travel could well be a mental construct of the time period from Mastermind. "

Sentinels did get a very brief cameo in one of the films... as a danger room scenario.

If it's like Star Trek, they'll pay homage to Singer but in the end reinvigorate the franchise into something new.

time traveling wasn't that popular till the 80s, where it was set. This is the 60s were everything extremely simple.

More, Meh.  I'm not looking forward to this flick at all.  I'm open to being pleasantly surprised though, I'm just not anticipating this will be any good. 

Well if there's ANY time travelling, hopefully it's to give the series a soft reboot or something, because X3 and Origins were craptastic.

I will see this movie when it's released. But I can't say I'm excited with the whole time-travel thing, if it's true of course.

" With this spin on it, Tom, you have actually got me intrigued about this movie. We have been fearing that this film we be yet another retooled/revamped origin with little to do with the source material or the previous films. But if this film is trying to tie in a modern team of X-Men with their origins in the 60's through time travel, I could enjoy this.  "

I STILL could care less about this f***ing movie...

I have a feeling this movie is going to do its level best to kill the super hero movie genre

I can't say that Vaughn has inspired a lot of confidence in me with what he's been saying about this film. Altering the film because of Inception and making remarks about comic book films "being on their way out" sound to me like the actions of someone unsure of his own product.

I still want to see this movie, even though they broke my heart with the last 4...... I still have hope
but I'm not seeing it in theaters, that wastes too much money

I appreciate the fact you didn't crap and are giving it an actual chance than say 97% of the population are not.

I refuse to see an "X" film called First Class and it not be about the original five.

The only thing i know is that it takes place in the 60's and present day. Though i will probabl see

If Tom is right then this movie just became really interesting.

I have no idea what to think of this movie.  None.

don't get to excited with a reeboot. i think it won't be time travelling at all. i think we will get a glimpse of the hows and when the leaders of mutant kind formed and the events that gave them their distinct points of view. it might involve flashbacks or deep mind probes. the way i see it xavier might be missing along with magneto and emma and it fall upon the x men to solve a puzzle from the past of all thise leaders toshared past to rescue them.

Eh...don't trust the studio to get anything X-Men right, so I'll be watching this from home. No matter what the plot may be. And I've never liked time travel stories...

I think what these people do not take into consideration is the fact that the film industry does not have the budget to make X men movies the way comic people want them to. If they were able to do that, we would be stuck in a theater for at least SIX HOURS !!! Now, I enjoyed the movies, and I have been an Uncanny X Men collector since 1981, but people need to understand that a movie script is 130 pages, ( I know because I write them) and forone comic book script is 40 pages, again (I know because I write them), so, what comic number is Uncanny X Men on today? How many wonderful writers has X Men had?   (40 pages X 500 books) = 20,000
HOW IN THE WORLD CAN A PRODUCER SQUEEZE 20,000 PAGES OF COMIC BOOKS  INTO A  100 - 200 PAGE SCRIPT???  

It can not be done, so give the producers a hats off and an applause, because I bet most of you own the movies you are bad talking about, anyways.

seeing blackbird is great!!!!1

" If Tom is right then this movie just became really interesting. "

" I refuse to see an "X" film called First Class and it not be about the original five. "

Will they features Balesco and two Magiks?

I just want the Hellfire Club. I'm over Magneto vs. Xavier, I'm tired of finding a cure for mutants, just give me Sebastian Shaw. 

son of a b****

that would've been awesome if they made a movie based on Days of Future Past...im still uncertain of what to think of this movie, but i wont keep my expectations high.

The franchise is a bit too messy, I'm sorry but they have really got to get everything in line and just make an X-men movie that follows the cannon. 
 
What the hell did all these writers, artists, and editors work for in the past 60 decades? To have everything just turned on it's head to suit the last couple years? Bryan Singer did a good job with the X-men but he was working within the constraints of a budget which hindered a lot of the things we would've liked. Now that we have millions upon millions going into the effects alone would it kill someone to actually throw some of that money at a screenplay writer with some actual talent and knowledge of the franchise?

Time travel...
My fears for this disaster have now been multiplied by a 100!!

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Still have no plans to see this movie. It isn't First Class without Scott Summers or Jean Grey.