@SarahB: It is when that's all she ever is around him. Rogue is only a leader in AoA or AoX because Magneto the real leader makes her one. He decides her role is to hang in the Tower in AoX because of her powers yet we clearly get over and over in the story that she really wants to be in the fight with everyone else. And I notice you blanked over the whole bit in AoA where he only figures out how she can touch him making him her only choice yet has no time in years later to help her touch her kid,. That's control and he even raised her during her young teen years in AoA. It was very twisted.
As you can see from AoX itself, Rogue wasn't locked in a tower. She was free to go wherever she pleased to go (expect X's basement Prison), she was allowed to be in any actual battles because of her role as the "reaper/legacy" and quite frankly no one wanted her there anyway.
AoA, Magneto was asked by Gambit to find a way around Rogue's powers (which is was doing anyway)he found out that he can "neutralize" her touch by using his powers to manipulate the powers she absorbed from Polaris (which gave her flight, and super strength). He was working on a way for her to touch charles and other people, but none of that came to fruition because they were attacked by apocalypse forces and they quickly went on an all out war after that.
He had no control over her whatsoever.
That's BS excuses. So you're telling me that Magneto had no control over his mechanical guard he was watching via cameras and so its not his fault? Who programmed her? More Rogue was not just electrocuted,. He specifically made her use her powers via his and messed with her mind about something that Psylocke had already fold them so it wasn't even necessary. You can defend it all you like but it was in print and I can interpret it as complete disregard for Rogue as a person and think Magneto owes her way way more than some appology he's not even bother to give anyway.
Yes, he programmed nanny to be a prison guard, but was he the one who told her at that exact moment to electrocute everyone? No. He's responsible by proxy not by direct involvement. There's a difference.
He used his powers on her to make her absorb gambit, yes. Psylocke said that rogue already knew what gambit had done, but she was in denial and hiding it from herself. That's when she was made to kiss Gambit and reveal everything. It was a dick move of course, but he thought of them as "enemies" so he didn't really care that much.
Never said anything about defending it. I'm just not going to mix one thing with the other just to make a point.
Magneto owes her no more than he owes anyone else. He has a lot of "debt" that needs to be payed out. Doesn't mean Rogue is going to get the bigger share.
If it's no big deal then why didn't he bother to do so?
Never said it's no big deal. I said it wasn't going to do any good to anyone. As for why he didn't apologize perhaps it's because he's Magneto? It's not like he's going to walk up to someone with a basket full of puppies and rainbows- asking for forgiveness. It's not exactly in his personality to just apologize first.
Sure she has. I don't sleep with people I haven't "forgiven or forgot". It was never brought up so is was forgiven by default.
Where was it stated that she had forgiven him? You're not exactly rogue not are you? lol
Not bringing something up doesn't mean it's forgiven or forgotten. People can hold grudges for years with their friends, family, lovers, co-workers, ect without even mentioning it. They keep it within themselves (which is extremely dangerous for them). You can actually be with someone without fully forgiving them for something they've done in the past.
So Magneto is not a grown ass man who can decide not to do an order? Magneto gets all pissy if anyone even talks about doing to Wanda what he was more than willing to do to Legion at any hint of provocation so don't tell me the hypocrite can't think for himself and decline if he really wanted to.
Magneto was for killing Wanda. he couldn't stand to see her in pain any longer and the psychic therapy wasn't helping at all. At the end he just gave up and decided maybe it was best for the Avengers to kill Wanda before she hurt herself or anyone else again. So yeah...
Magneto is going to do what it takes to protect mutantkind if that meant killing Legion then he was going to do it. No one saying it's right, but that's the way it is when it comes to Magneto and mutants. He's going to constantly sacrifice (which is one of the things he's realized is not helping him or anyone else) for the greater Mutantkind.
You mean the fact that he saved her twice while she was helpless and totally dependant on him and he could be all powerful and her all grateful couldn't have possibly lead to that "spark" at all? Nor that it seems like any time on any verse they are together, her power control seems to be so easily gotten past so that Magneto never has to deal with that.
How many times he saved her is irrelevant because they were on the same team together for a while. He's saved her a ton of times before the savage land. The "Spark" was sudden and had nothing to do with the fact that she didn't have her powers or that Magneto saved her life. She wasn't dependent on him for anything.
How many times has Magneto gotten over her powers so easily? Because AoA he didn't just come up with the answer overnight. it actually took a while.
AoX, she already had control over her powers due to the fact that her life went differently than 616. She never absorbed Cody in AoX so she never built that wall of guilt within her mind that kept her powers at bay.
Magnus homeworld we don't know how the hell she and magnus got together. She probably (like AoX rogue) had a different experience with her powers that led to her having control.
He doesn't have to cry but he can and should show some affection. It's a ccomplete excuse to say he wasn't talking about himself there too (he's says "the Stong" for a reason) not just says Rogue. How does he know what Rogue thinks about him coming to see her as Frenzy suggested? It's not like they've been together any time at all and I don't call that ADULT talk anyway, If you are so afraid of looking weak, you are acting like 7 year old.
Show affection? He doesn't show affection like normal people. In fact him saying that Rogue(the strong) might not like being fawned over(meaning having her weakness seen), is the basically his way of showing affection. Was it stupid? Kinda. Did it make sense for his character? Yes.
Honestly even if he did show concern over her everyone would have been complaining about that.
At the end of Magneto Not a Hero. Blatantly murdered a guy for his free speach against mutants becasue it pissed Magneto off.
I remember that part being kind ambiguous as to whether Magneto was the one to kill them or if he just let Joseph drop the building on that political guy?
Though, again, it shows that Magneto is the type of person who's going to protect mutantkind in his own way. No matter how stupid it really is, and a lot of it is stupid.
The fact is they had and have history that was not addressed
Their history was addressed. It wasn't the specific part of history that some people wanted addressed, but their history was addressed within the comic.
she's never seemed more dependant to me or acting like a 13 year old than she does now whining about him being over on Utopia and not calling while he never thinks of her at all.
And this right here is what the all the rogue/magneto arguments always boil down to. The fact that everyone is injecting their personal feelings into the actual storyline and creating their own "personal canon" while disregarding what's actually been written.
Rogue has never been dependent on Magneto. She has never relied on him to do anything for her. She has never let him make decisions for her, nor has she made decisions based on him. Everything she does is independent of him.
Is she acting like a brat because she feels that she's above calling magneto even if she wanted to talk to him, and that he's the one that should call her to prove his feelings for her? Hell yeah she is. It's stupid especially when you consider the fact that she is the one who instigated the physical relationship in the first place.
Hating the relationship is one thing, but when people start creating or mixing stories to justify the hate and then passing it off like it's the truth. That's when it gets ridiculous.Because it's not an argument based on what has happened or what is happening in the comic; it's based on someone's personal feelings and view of the comic.
It's not just with Rogue/Magneto is happens with other characters/stories too. You can't argue facts with someone's personal opinions.
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