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    Character » Wonder Woman appears in 8805 issues.

    The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.

    Is Wonder Woman the same level as Ms. Marvel?

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    Nucleon

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    @agent41: And heal like nothing happened like we have seen more than once. Stay on topic please.

    Which is, unless I am wrong, a comparison of Wonder Woman and Carol Danvers' respective power levels. You can't kill Carol Danvers (assuming she's somehow powered) with a .38 revolver. In terms of power levels, only street levels and glass canons are easily killeable with a .38 shot. Wonder Woman can tank hits by Supes yet she can be killed by a kid holding a shop keeper's snub-nosed .38? What about fragments in a pitched battle, what about shrapnel? The fact that WW hasn't encountered a real, simple fragmentation grenade's effect shows some mary-sueish treatment of the character, IMO.

    Wonder Woman isn't a balanced, stable or consistant character. Okay, Danvers hasn't been a paragon of stability neither, but at least one can safely send her to arrest a Bullseye or a Deadshot with having her getting killed.

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    Wonder Woman stomps Carol.

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    #156  Edited By Nucleon

    @agent41: Wonder Woman has never been killed by a bullet. I remember her being shot in the chest, the adomen, and the head in Rebirth alone, and being fine afterwards. And she has contained granade explosions with her bare hands.

    She wasn't fine - she was hurt as heck. She would have been killed, too, if it was Deadshot firing it. I have seen a Gail Sinome run when she fights Shrapnel; the writers found nothing more to do for Shrapnel but staying there, conveniently passive, waiting for his turn at being demolished by WW.

    It's like the Sleeping Beauty and her spining wheel "vulnerability"; Like the SB's father, DC writers take great cares to not getting her in contact with lethal firearms and explosive specialists, although one or two slipped by here and there. In other words, they job. Danvers doesn't get such a Mary-Sueish treatment at Marvel's.

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    @nucleon said:

    @agent41: Wonder Woman has never been killed by a bullet. I remember her being shot in the chest, the adomen, and the head in Rebirth alone, and being fine afterwards. And she has contained granade explosions with her bare hands.

    She wasn't fine - she was hurt as heck. She would have been killed, too, if it was Deadshot firing it. I have seen a Gail Sinome run when she fights Shrapnel; the writers found nothing more to do for Shrapnel but staying there, conveniently passive, waiting for his turn at being demolished by WW.

    It's like the Sleeping Beauty and her spining wheel "vulnerability"; Like the SB's father, DC writers take great cares to not getting her in contact with lethal firearms and explosive specialists, although one or two slipped by here and there. In other words, they job. Danvers doesn't get such a Mary-Sueish treatment at Marvel's.

    What are you talking about? WW has healing factor. Go to DC website check for yourself

    You are taking about Stupid Priest JL run where he conveniently forgot WW has healing factor and superspeed. In Greg Rucka WW run .she literally take sniper bullet to heart and shrugs it off or grenades explodes in her hand and is fine.

    There is nothing Mary Suiesh about it but DC conveniently forgetting her powers or nerfing her . In the DCEU she can't even fly even though she has been flying comics since the 1950s. Will DC ever dare to take flight power from Superman or Shazam

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    @agent41: Seriously hating on Carol for Marvel treating her like WW should be treated by DC

    If she succeeds DC will be forced to make WW more powerful and give her a larger role like Batman and Superman in DC Universe. DC has been sexist with WW nerfing her so she is inferior to Superman, Batman or Flash. Captain Marvel's success is paramount for DC to up there game with WW in DCEU and comics.

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    @agent41: Because Marvel knows how WW like character should be treated.Poweful and as a Leader Marvel made her a superhero because of WW Tv series popularity in 70s She is a healthy competition unlike Supergirl or Harley Quinn and will only help WW in the long run.

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    #162  Edited By dshipp17

    @geraldofvengerberg said:
    @nucleon said:

    @agent41: Wonder Woman has never been killed by a bullet. I remember her being shot in the chest, the adomen, and the head in Rebirth alone, and being fine afterwards. And she has contained granade explosions with her bare hands.

    She wasn't fine - she was hurt as heck. She would have been killed, too, if it was Deadshot firing it. I have seen a Gail Sinome run when she fights Shrapnel; the writers found nothing more to do for Shrapnel but staying there, conveniently passive, waiting for his turn at being demolished by WW.

    It's like the Sleeping Beauty and her spining wheel "vulnerability"; Like the SB's father, DC writers take great cares to not getting her in contact with lethal firearms and explosive specialists, although one or two slipped by here and there. In other words, they job. Danvers doesn't get such a Mary-Sueish treatment at Marvel's.

    What are you talking about? WW has healing factor. Go to DC website check for yourself

    You are taking about Stupid Priest JL run where he conveniently forgot WW has healing factor. In Greg Rucka WW run .she literally take sniper bullet to heart and shrugs it off or grenades explodes in her hand and is fine.

    There is nothing Mary Suiesh about it but DC conveniently forgetting her powers or nerfing her . In the DCEU she can't even fly even though she has been flying comics since the 1950s. Will DC ever dare to take flight power from Superman or Shazam

    That wasn't stupid at all, just good writing by Priest; Wonder Woman is supposed to be venerable to bullets and sharp objects; that's the way her creator made her; if anything, it's Rucka who is off. Messner-Loebs got this right too; during his run, Wonder Woman needed to go through a recovery phase; once through that, she had to regain her ability to fly; that's good, realistic writing that is intended for Wonder Woman.

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    @dshipp17 said:
    @geraldofvengerberg said:
    @nucleon said:

    @agent41: Wonder Woman has never been killed by a bullet. I remember her being shot in the chest, the adomen, and the head in Rebirth alone, and being fine afterwards. And she has contained granade explosions with her bare hands.

    She wasn't fine - she was hurt as heck. She would have been killed, too, if it was Deadshot firing it. I have seen a Gail Sinome run when she fights Shrapnel; the writers found nothing more to do for Shrapnel but staying there, conveniently passive, waiting for his turn at being demolished by WW.

    It's like the Sleeping Beauty and her spining wheel "vulnerability"; Like the SB's father, DC writers take great cares to not getting her in contact with lethal firearms and explosive specialists, although one or two slipped by here and there. In other words, they job. Danvers doesn't get such a Mary-Sueish treatment at Marvel's.

    What are you talking about? WW has healing factor. Go to DC website check for yourself

    You are taking about Stupid Priest JL run where he conveniently forgot WW has healing factor. In Greg Rucka WW run .she literally take sniper bullet to heart and shrugs it off or grenades explodes in her hand and is fine.

    There is nothing Mary Suiesh about it but DC conveniently forgetting her powers or nerfing her . In the DCEU she can't even fly even though she has been flying comics since the 1950s. Will DC ever dare to take flight power from Superman or Shazam

    That wasn't stupid at all, just good writing by Priest; Wonder Woman is supposed to be venerable to bullets and sharp objects; that's the way her creator made her; if anything, it's Rucka who is off. Messner-Loebs got this right too; during his run, Wonder Woman needed to go through a recovery phase; once through that, she had to regain her ability to fly; that's good, realistic writing that is intended for Wonder Woman.

    Realism in a story about a Goddess level Amazon can piss off.

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    @agent41: She was fine and continued fighting. She didn't die from a shot to the head. A human being would have been dead after that. She just stood up and continued fighting. And she has encountered well trained snipers, including the likes of deadshot.

    The susceptibility to bullets may be silly.

    No - it's great; WW deflecting bullets with her bracers is one of her iconic poses.

    The problem here is that as far as DC is concerned, "powerful" = "Superman". In other words, there's just no alternate ways to be powerful other than becoming a Superman clone. Just look at Wolverine: He is in fact an alternate brick, trading durability with fast healing and brute strength with enhanced damage capabilities (the claws). There's just no other path to power and/or respectability in DC than sooperstrint/speed, invulnerability, flight and theme-vision.

    But WW has never been treated as a spoiled princess like you try to make it out to be. Usually she is just there, doing nothing. It's been like this for years. On the other hand you have danvers. You think danvers doesn't get mary sue treatment? She has been pushed down our throats for years now. They are trying like there is no tomorrow to make her happen as an A list character. See civel war 2 for example. Or her upcoming movie where they gave her planetary level feats and made her more powerful than everybody else right from the start. When she was nowhere near that level in the comics. If DC tried even half as hard with Wonder Woman, what a story that would be. danvers is currently the defination of sjw hype.

    I can't deny the stuff you wrote, and I also feel for cramming Marvel's Cap Marvel down our collective throats ever since Monica Rambeau, but yet the character always was kind of powerful, even when he was a Kree man.

    And yet, I must rest my case and denounce how DC conveniently shielded WW from the yet abundant ways to hurt her.

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    @geraldofvengerberg: What are you talking about? WW has healing factor. Go to DC website check for yourself

    You are taking about Stupid Priest JL run where he conveniently forgot WW has healing factor and superspeed. In Greg Rucka WW run .she literally take sniper bullet to heart and shrugs it off or grenades explodes in her hand and is fine.

    There is nothing Mary Suiesh about it but DC conveniently forgetting her powers or nerfing her . In the DCEU she can't even fly even though she has been flying comics since the 1950s. Will DC ever dare to take flight power from Superman or Shazam

    Huh? I thought the original one flew with an invisible plane, well into the 80s.

    Just as well, IMO. Wonder Woman does look kind of ackward when she flies, as if she had a flight ring instead of being a natural at it. Maybe it's just me. In anycase, making WW fly on her own is part of a process that aim to "Supermanize" her.

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    @agent41: Her creator also made her to be Superman's equal. Yet you want to deny it. And Marston WW does have a healing factor too.

    The Superman of that time was kind of humble. And everybody's got a "healing factor", unless one of us is a cyborg or a bot of some kind. But like WW's, it isn't elevated enough in her case to be a significant power, not when compared to invulnerability.

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