just wondering i never really see any striaght forward answers
Wonder Woman
Character » Wonder Woman appears in 8805 issues.
The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.
is wander woman a virgin
"1.Obviously it matters to the OP because he asked.Does it matter?Marvel and DC need to make their titles more all ages friendly, if they want to make more money."
"Cezar_TheScribe said:"1.Obviously it matters to the OP because he asked.Does it matter?Marvel and DC need to make their titles more all ages friendly, if they want to make more money."2.That's retarded.The average comic reader is 17 or older.If all age friendly comics sold,Marvel and DC wouldn't have resorted to making their comics more mature."
I agree with the all ages thing, have a separate line like Marvel does, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I shouldn't be afraid to give a Teen Titans comic to a child...
"Citizen Vance said:1.That makes no sense.If you are not a child..I don't see why you care if the comic is all ages.This is the same thing people b#tch about with video games.There are some for kids but the majority are for people 17 and up.The majority of the people who are really into comics or video games are not children therefore they make comics for more mature audiences.What you're doing is like being mad that they don't make porn for kids."Cezar_TheScribe said:"1.Obviously it matters to the OP because he asked.Does it matter?Marvel and DC need to make their titles more all ages friendly, if they want to make more money."2.That's retarded.The average comic reader is 17 or older.If all age friendly comics sold,Marvel and DC wouldn't have resorted to making their comics more mature."When the companies make their comics more "mature" it makes me not want to buy that title any more.I'm not saying dumbing them down to make them all ages. Just more like they used to be.I know many parents will not allow their children buy comics that are more "mature"Many older comic collectors have stopped buying them, because of the price increases and higher cost of living.Making comics all ages means more people can buy them and the prices can drop.The comic shop I used to go to has lost a lot of their regulars.It would only make sense to make the main titles all ages."
Remember this topic came from the same guy who said he's respect them big ol' t%*^(%ies of Power Girl.
His words...
I have bought some of those titles before.
I'm not saying make all the titles like that, at all.
But, the way the comics are going now. I will stop buying them sooner or later.
I don't need softcore porn in my comics or excessive cursing.
"Remember this topic came from the same guy who said he's respect them big ol' t%*^(%ies of Power Girl.Somebody needs to get out more.
His words..."
"Mainstream titles should be for all ages,"Cezar_TheScribe said:
"I don't need softcore porn in my comics or excessive cursing. "Maybe you don't but alot of people do. Its not a statement of quality about a comic whether or not it contains "mature" or "youth" or even "all ages" material, its a matter of taste on behalf of the creators who make them and the readers who buy them.
To say that mainstream titles should be for all ages is a biased and inaccurate view when the "mainstream" isn't really one collection of people. Its a huge number of people whose interests sometimes intertwine to make distinct groups and demographics, not all of whom share your view on what should be the common level of "taste" in the industry.
Frankly, if i couldn't read a comic book where a small girl violently dismembers a group of hoodlums with a samurai sword every once in a while...i would go insane.
"Cezar_TheScribe said:"Mainstream titles should be for all ages,"Cezar_TheScribe said:"I don't need softcore porn in my comics or excessive cursing. "Maybe you don't but alot of people do. Its not a statement of quality about a comic whether or not it contains "mature" or "youth" or even "all ages" material, its a matter of taste on behalf of the creators who make them and the readers who buy them.
To say that mainstream titles should be for all ages is a biased and inaccurate view when the "mainstream" isn't really one collection of people. Its a huge number of people whose interests sometimes intertwine to make distinct groups and demographics, not all of whom share your view on what should be the common level of "taste" in the industry.
Frankly, if i couldn't read a comic book where a small girl violently dismembers a group of hoodlums with a samurai sword every once in a while...i would go insane."
That's what Vertigo and MAX titles are for. Buy those titles.
Unless you want comic companies to fold altogether. I would hope that's not what you want.
now that's a interesting question but dc comics are made for children with the exception of the joker of course
"BrainDawg said:Seriously..WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Marvel and DC are doing as well as ever.If their content was a big issue they would have changed already."Cezar_TheScribe said:"Mainstream titles should be for all ages,"Cezar_TheScribe said:"I don't need softcore porn in my comics or excessive cursing. "Maybe you don't but alot of people do. Its not a statement of quality about a comic whether or not it contains "mature" or "youth" or even "all ages" material, its a matter of taste on behalf of the creators who make them and the readers who buy them.
To say that mainstream titles should be for all ages is a biased and inaccurate view when the "mainstream" isn't really one collection of people. Its a huge number of people whose interests sometimes intertwine to make distinct groups and demographics, not all of whom share your view on what should be the common level of "taste" in the industry.
Frankly, if i couldn't read a comic book where a small girl violently dismembers a group of hoodlums with a samurai sword every once in a while...i would go insane."That's what Vertigo and MAX titles are for. Buy those titles."
Unless you want comic companies to fold altogether. I would hope that's not what you want.
"Esther Cotillard LeBeau said:Currently as in as of right now Wonder Woman is a virgin."Currently, yes."currently?"
All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things
"Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL."
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
"Citizen Vance said:1.In case you weren't aware...the countries economy is in the toilet.Comic companies aren't rolling in money as it is.3 bucks is generous if you ask me."Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
"All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things"It's not a bad idea but that's why Marvel is already doing it.Marvel Adventures is for the kids.They have all the major characters in them.
"Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:1.In case you weren't aware...the countries economy is in the toilet.Comic companies aren't rolling in money as it is.3 bucks is generous if you ask me."Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
2.Kids don't read comics.It's not the fault of the companies.As long as Marvel keeps kids interested in certain characters though..they can always own that part of the market though.Action Figures,animated series,movies,merchandise...they buy most of it."
- Yeah, I'm aware of the economy, however, I still think that's a lot of money. Your point, further supports my statement in my book.
- I bought comics as early as 12 years old or less. My first comics were handed down to me from my uncle. That's around the age of 9. You may right about the majority of kids not purchasing comics, but that may be due to not earning enough money, or spending their allowances on something else kid-ish.
"I will be her first........
holds up Magic Staff
"
What are you going on about? LOL.
"Citizen Vance said:Kids not reading comics has nothing to do with money.They don't buy comics because most kids don't spend money to read for pleasure.Alot of them don't have the attention span for it."Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:1.In case you weren't aware...the countries economy is in the toilet.Comic companies aren't rolling in money as it is.3 bucks is generous if you ask me."Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
2.Kids don't read comics.It's not the fault of the companies.As long as Marvel keeps kids interested in certain characters though..they can always own that part of the market though.Action Figures,animated series,movies,merchandise...they buy most of it.""
- Yeah, I'm aware of the economy, however, I still think that's a lot of money. Your point, further supports my statement in my book.
- I bought comics as early as 12 years old or less. My first comics were handed down to me from my uncle. That's around the age of 9. You may right about the majority of kids not purchasing comics, but that may be due to not earning enough money, or spending their allowances on something else kid-ish.
"Nighthunter said:that's why in my first post I said like marvel"All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things"It's not a bad idea but that's why Marvel is already doing it.Marvel Adventures is for the kids.They have all the major characters in them."
DC used to do it a lot with mainstream titles in the 90's with Robin, Impulse, Superboy, Young justice, etc.
Now for some reason they make it for people like 5 years old, tiny titans is actually good (wouldn't spend money there though) but the joker are mostly for teen titans fans and grown-ups
"Citizen Vance said:I agree.I like Tiny Titans and I read Marvel Adventures even though it's directed at kids.I just feel like now isn't a good time to be experimenting with the market.DC should continue to sell books to the people they know for a fact will buy the books.Marvel doesn't have to worry as much because they make more money but with the economy the way it is i'm not so sure they can keep certain books out there if they aren't going to move any units."Nighthunter said:that's why in my first post I said like marvel"All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things"It's not a bad idea but that's why Marvel is already doing it.Marvel Adventures is for the kids.They have all the major characters in them."
DC used to do it a lot with mainstream titles in the 90's with Robin, Impulse, Superboy, Young justice, etc.
Now for some reason they make it for people like 5 years old, tiny titans is actually good (wouldn't spend time there though) but the joker are mostly for teen titans fans and grown-ups
"
"Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:Kids not reading comics has nothing to do with money.They don't buy comics because most kids don't spend money to read for pleasure.Alot of them don't have the attention span for it.""Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:1.In case you weren't aware...the countries economy is in the toilet.Comic companies aren't rolling in money as it is.3 bucks is generous if you ask me."Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
2.Kids don't read comics.It's not the fault of the companies.As long as Marvel keeps kids interested in certain characters though..they can always own that part of the market though.Action Figures,animated series,movies,merchandise...they buy most of it.""
- Yeah, I'm aware of the economy, however, I still think that's a lot of money. Your point, further supports my statement in my book.
- I bought comics as early as 12 years old or less. My first comics were handed down to me from my uncle. That's around the age of 9. You may right about the majority of kids not purchasing comics, but that may be due to not earning enough money, or spending their allowances on something else kid-ish.
You may be right about that too. Being the individual and isolationist I am, I wouldn't have known that and that makes me (and those like me) an exception. I still think most people like comics. Not with the same degree of enthusiasm, but on some level. When I tell people my hobbies, reading comics, they laugh and then say they use to do that. I usually assume they did before becoming adults, with all the rewards and drawbacks that come with it, like siring children, they probably just lose interest. However, I never asked if this is the case. Do you have any proof that the majority of comic readers are 17 years old and up? What is the ratio between adults and children who purchase comics and opposed to just reading them? Do you think there is a way to figure it out?
Now i see the :p and I'm savvy enough to infer you speak with a bit of jest but if i misjudge, please chalk it up to Net-Speak inexperience.You "need" porn in your comics? Maybe, you need a therapist. :p
My point is though, I don't understand why you had to quote and bold the word need. I didn't say or imply i needed porn or any form of mature content in a comic, what i like in comics is variety, not conformity.
Some days i' "want" an all-ages tale, so i go out and buy one. Typically i will try to buy a quality comic and if my choice reflects the choices of many other people, that title will become Mainstream (if not so already). Other days though i "want" a mature comic, so i go out and buy one. Like before, if the comic i buy is also bought by a great deal of other people, it will become Mainstream.
You'll find popular, Mainstream titles that reflect many different types of material or content, and to expect them all to reflect any specific one is ignorant of the rest of the community who buy comics.
Even if you believe that what the majority of people want is all-ages - the truth is in the numbers. if you see alot of titles containing mature content, well shit, i guess thats what people want.
Btw, one last point. If i wanted a porn comic, why would i need a therapist? I like porn mate, in any medium, and if you wanted to split hairs about what type of material is good for the industry then let me tell you something...
There is NOTHING more popular than porn.
"Omega-level Supreme said:"King Saturn said:King Saturn wants to be wonder woman's first time..""I will be her first........
holds up Magic Staff
"
What are you going on about? LOL."
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You guys are to much. To get back on track, I don't know if she's a virgin or not. I have nothing to add here. Sorry for derailing the topic. :(
"Citizen Vance said:"Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
"Citizen Vance said:Do I have any proof that comic readers are 17 years old and up? None that I could show you.I know people who work at comics shops and who have interacted with people in the industry.I met Brian Reed the writer of Ms.Marvel.They all are aware of the same thing.Kids don't read comics.I don't know what the ratio is between adults and children who purchase comics is but I can tell you that even comics geared toward children are bought more by people in my age bracket rather than children."Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:Kids not reading comics has nothing to do with money.They don't buy comics because most kids don't spend money to read for pleasure.Alot of them don't have the attention span for it.""Omega-level Supreme said:"Citizen Vance said:1.In case you weren't aware...the countries economy is in the toilet.Comic companies aren't rolling in money as it is.3 bucks is generous if you ask me."Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
2.Kids don't read comics.It's not the fault of the companies.As long as Marvel keeps kids interested in certain characters though..they can always own that part of the market though.Action Figures,animated series,movies,merchandise...they buy most of it.""
- Yeah, I'm aware of the economy, however, I still think that's a lot of money. Your point, further supports my statement in my book.
- I bought comics as early as 12 years old or less. My first comics were handed down to me from my uncle. That's around the age of 9. You may right about the majority of kids not purchasing comics, but that may be due to not earning enough money, or spending their allowances on something else kid-ish.
You may be right about that too. Being the individual and isolationist I am, I wouldn't have known that and that makes me (and those like me) an exception. I still think most people like comics. Not with the same degree of enthusiasm, but on some level. When I tell people my hobbies, reading comics, they laugh and then say they use to do that. I usually assume they did before becoming adults, with all the rewards and drawbacks that come with it, like siring children, they probably just lose interest. However, I never asked if this is the case. Do you have any proof that the majority of comic readers are 17 years old and up? What is the ratio between adults and children who purchase comics and opposed to just reading them? Do you think there is a way to figure it out?"
"Omega-level Supreme said:That isn't true..stop saying it."Citizen Vance said:"Cezar_TheScribe said:3.Comics are like 3-4 bucks.If people can't afford comics..it has nothing to do with the target market.4.Marvel has several titles geared toward kids...THEY DON'T SELL WELL.""
- That's expensive. I remember when comics were $ 1.50 - 3.00. I even have some $ 0.10 comics.
- That's too bad.
Citizen Vance said that not me. You quoted the wrong person. :pComics are becoming more expensive. Because the companies have backedthemselves into a corner trying to be "mature.""
"Omega-level Supreme said:[="King Saturn said:King Saturn wants to be wonder woman's first time..""I will be her first........
holds up Magic Staff
"
What are you going on about? LOL."
Uh Huh
Oooops. Okay, so we're on the same side about the prices then right?Citizen Vance said that not me. You quoted the wrong person. :pComics are becoming more expensive. Because the companies have backedthemselves into a corner trying to be "mature.""
Citizen Vance said:
Do I have any proof that comic readers are 17 years old and up? None that I could show you.I know people who work at comics shops and who have interacted with people in the industry.I met Brian Reed the writer of Ms.Marvel.They all are aware of the same thing.Kids don't read comics.I don't know what the ratio is between adults and children who purchase comics is but I can tell you that even comics geared toward children are bought more by people in my age bracket rather than children."
Then all I have is your word? Well I don't have any proof either. So peace.
"Nighthunter said:I feel a big sales drop for marvel with the prize rise"Citizen Vance said:I agree.I like Tiny Titans and I read Marvel Adventures even though it's directed at kids.I just feel like now isn't a good time to be experimenting with the market.DC should continue to sell books to the people they know for a fact will buy the books.Marvel doesn't have to worry as much because they make more money but with the economy the way it is i'm not so sure they can keep certain books out there if they aren't going to move any units.""Nighthunter said:that's why in my first post I said like marvel"All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things"It's not a bad idea but that's why Marvel is already doing it.Marvel Adventures is for the kids.They have all the major characters in them."
DC used to do it a lot with mainstream titles in the 90's with Robin, Impulse, Superboy, Young justice, etc.
Now for some reason they make it for people like 5 years old, tiny titans is actually good (wouldn't spend time there though) but the joker are mostly for teen titans fans and grown-ups
"
"Cezar_TheScribe said:I'm sure you could google it.Oooops. Okay, so we're on the same side about the prices then right?Citizen Vance said that not me. You quoted the wrong person. :pComics are becoming more expensive. Because the companies have backedthemselves into a corner trying to be "mature.""
Citizen Vance said:Do I have any proof that comic readers are 17 years old and up? None that I could show you.I know people who work at comics shops and who have interacted with people in the industry.I met Brian Reed the writer of Ms.Marvel.They all are aware of the same thing.Kids don't read comics.I don't know what the ratio is between adults and children who purchase comics is but I can tell you that even comics geared toward children are bought more by people in my age bracket rather than children."
Then all I have is your word? Well I don't have any proof either. So peace."
"Citizen Vance said:I don't know about big....sales drop.Yes...big...probably not."Nighthunter said:I feel a big sales drop for marvel with the prize rise""Citizen Vance said:I agree.I like Tiny Titans and I read Marvel Adventures even though it's directed at kids.I just feel like now isn't a good time to be experimenting with the market.DC should continue to sell books to the people they know for a fact will buy the books.Marvel doesn't have to worry as much because they make more money but with the economy the way it is i'm not so sure they can keep certain books out there if they aren't going to move any units.""Nighthunter said:that's why in my first post I said like marvel"All ages book ain't a bad idea, that was the idea behind young justice, introduce the young kids to the heroes and then they'll eventually move to more mature things"It's not a bad idea but that's why Marvel is already doing it.Marvel Adventures is for the kids.They have all the major characters in them."
DC used to do it a lot with mainstream titles in the 90's with Robin, Impulse, Superboy, Young justice, etc.
Now for some reason they make it for people like 5 years old, tiny titans is actually good (wouldn't spend time there though) but the joker are mostly for teen titans fans and grown-ups
"
for what I heard sales are already falling considerably and that's for titles with regular prize
the prize increase starts next month I believe
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